There is no way the Spurs will have any amount greater than the MLE this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by wisnub
Period.
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There is no way the Spurs will have any amount greater than the MLE this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by wisnub
Period.
Just because 2 of our players could sign with other teams doesn't mean that it will add to the money available with the MLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by wisnub
The MLE is set, and there's no way it could be added to.
You can't trade the LLE, actually (or the MLE, for that matter).Quote:
Originally Posted by wisnub
But yea, as everyone said, they don't total up. They are set in place.
Damn...now we just hope Corey like championship rings..... Orlando will never win championship with their current roster. They could challenge Celtics but not get past them
If Orlando can pay Rashad $100+ million, Orlando can pay Corey Magette more than MLE. Sigh... I sometimes wish Spurs had a richer owner...:wakeupQuote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Salary Cap my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by wijayas
Orl can only offer the MLE.... and along with Texas is a non-tax state...
So its up to him i guess... Pop betta get the knee pads out
Precisely my point. Orlando owner can go over the salary cap and pay the tax. Not Holt.Quote:
Originally Posted by mystargtr34
And since when to Barry and Maggette play the same position? Barry is our best back up PG, and a soft SG when he wants to be. Maggette is an athletic SG/SF. They don't play even remotely the same style of game, even though they technically occasionally overlap at the SG spot.
If a team is over the cap... as the Magic are... they can only offer the MLE or the LLE... CBAQuote:
Originally Posted by wijayas
I'm not sure why he would turn down $7mil and then sign somewhere else for less than that. Can the Clippers offer him more than anyone else, more than $7 mil, say?
Yep... i think now the only way we get Brent back is to offer the LLE given what LA has offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supergirl
I think if we can get Maggette and Barry with the MLE and LLE.... re-sign Kurt with Bird rights... sign Hill obviously... i think we can all be pretty confident and happy with that.
And i would like Gist and Hairston over Horry and Finley.
Because its risky for any player to play on a one year contract... injuries play a major part in decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManuTastic
I think his agent would be advising him to take the best deal available obviously... but if thats a MLE (which is most likely) then he would be best advised to sign a 2 year deal with a team/player option for a third... that way if he plays to his capability he can resign a bigger long term deal later... and at the same time that 2/3 year MLE deal gives him a bit of security in case of injury.
The only teams that can offer him more than the MLE are Memphis (Highly unlikely given ownership and F/G glut), Philly (pursuing other options) and GS (likely destination now that Baron is gone).
Make sense?
There are rules. Orlando can only offer the MLE, just like the Spurs can. The only way they can pay him more is in a sign and trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by wijayas
The only teams that can pay him more than the MLE are the teams that have enough cap room, like Philly, Golden State and Memphis.
Why did Barry opt out? He was in a similiar situation just 6months ago and had the option to sign somewhere else, but he didn't and decided to come back to the Spurs. He had to have known the Spurs would be looking at younger wings this offseason. And the $$ difference he'd be getting doesn't seem like that much...unless he's looking for a longer contract and that's really hard to expect at his age.
This all leads me to believe that perhaps the Spurs are a lot closer to signing a JR Smith/Maggette than the media and Spurs are letting on and also that the Spurs have all plans and intentions to keep Michael Finley on board which makes Barry believe his playing time will be limited next season so he better opt out.
Personally, I still believe as Barry showed against the Lakers, he's a much needed veteran on this Spurs team. His 3 point shooting and ball passing is still one of the best on the team. And I'd take him over Finley and day of the week.
Has a 31% career on 3s. Why would he be a help from the perimeter?
Agreed. If Maggette comes in, ideally I say adios Finley, welcome back Barry. Barry's still got a lot; Finley is, realistically, done.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Parker1
That's confusing, considering the reasons he gave for re-signing last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Parker1
If you ask me, the wrong guy opted out and the wrong guy (Vaughn) excerised his option to stay.
its gonna take at least 2 guys to help us get to where and what we used tobeQuote:
Originally Posted by picnroll
There was a lot of interest in Barry before resigning with the Spurs. I can understand why he opted out because someone out there will offer more money (and years) than what the Spurs would be willing to offer.
It doesn't mean they prefer Finley (asuming they resign him) over Barry. Or that they'll over him more money, years, minutes, whatever. It doesn't take a genius to realize that minutes are going to be scarce once the Spurs sign someone like Maggette. Barry might not want to sit on the bench another year.
That was in the middle of the season. This time he has a chance to get a brand new contract probably for more money. He was signed to only a prorated version of the vet minimum, so he wasn't even making over $1 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lebowski Brickowski
He could also factor in the fact that the Spurs are trying to get younger at the wing positions, so no matter what the Spurs are telling him, maybe he's feeling that he might not be wanted for more than a 1 year deal by the Spurs. I think the Spurs would only offer the 1 year minimum deal, while some other team might offer him more years.
It's not a surprise as to why he opted out.
If Barry dumped the Spurs contract and signed with the Rockets, it would be for a measly 700 grand raise.
But it could be for more years.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
I wouldn't necessarily read anything Barry opting out. As it stood, he was guaranteed a minimum salary for one year. He can certainly get more in free agency as well as two years instead of one. I think he ends up with the LLE for two years, which would end up being about $4 mil guaranteed over two years. That's a lot better than $1.3 mil or what not over one with probably another minimum year or close to it if he re-signed for another year. Plus, it does give him some options with respect to where he plays next year, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Parker1
I'm sure Barry would prefer to stay here, but I think he also wants to be able to play and not get stuck on the bench. I would imagine he knows what his value would be to other teams and wants the option of where to go.
In that sense, he's probably going to wait for a lot of the pieces to fall into place at different teams and see where might be a good fit. It might not be on the Spurs from his perspective, especially if we get Maggette and Pop seems to be favoring bringing Finley back, which seems crazy but Barry has been stuck behind Finley since he got here.
Spurs will need a shooter on that bench if they land Maggette. Barry is well suited for that role. Spurs can give him a nice pay raise that can't be topped elsewhere unless some team wants to use part of their MLE to sign him. In that case, it's been fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Truth #6