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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
u might be harsh to judge him to quick. he does seem like he is a premadona. but im sure if hes put in the right enviorment he will buy into the system and be a great role player
I've followed him pretty closely over the year so I don't think I'm judging him too quick. He was on the Pistons for all but one year of his career, so it wasn't like he was on horrible teams.
Delfino is known commodity at this point. It's worth the roll of the dice for a reasonable contract if Ginobili and Oberto agree to it ... but you can't sugarcoat his career to this point.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
Boy, Spurs fans are going to go crazy if the Spurs are giving Delfino part of the MLE and not really making an offer to Maggette. :lmao
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
timvp
I've followed him pretty closely over the year so I don't think I'm judging him too quick. He was on the Pistons for all but one year of his career, so it wasn't like he was on horrible teams.
Delfino is known commodity at this point. It's worth the roll of the dice for a reasonable contract if Ginobili and Oberto agree to it ... but you can't sugarcoat his career to this point.
well let me ask you this than?
if you were the Spurs FO, who would you sign for the LLE?
Brent Barry or Carlos Delfino?
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
Kori Ellis
Boy, Spurs fans are going to go crazy if the Spurs are giving Delfino part of the MLE and not really making an offer to Maggette. :lmao
Ah, shit.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
well let me ask you this than?
if you were the Spurs FO, who would you sign for the LLE?
Brent Barry or Carlos Delfino?
Barry, no question.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
Kori Ellis
Boy, Spurs fans are going to go crazy if the Spurs are giving Delfino part of the MLE and not really making an offer to Maggette. :lmao
I'm actually starting to think they might be doing just that. :lol
Ok, it's not funny, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
Delfino as the 5th swingman? I'm not losing any sleep over it.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Marcus Bryant
Delfino as the 5th swingman? I'm not losing any sleep over it.
Hells yes.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
well let me ask you this than?
if you were the Spurs FO, who would you sign for the LLE?
Brent Barry or Carlos Delfino?
Depends who else comprises the swingman rotation. If the Spurs miss out on all the big names, might have to go with Delfino with the hope that he suddenly figures it out.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Depends who else comprises the swingman rotation. If the Spurs miss out on all the big names, might have to go with Delfino with the hope that he suddenly figures it out.
exactly my point.
RIGHT NOW barry is injury prone and not young anymore.
Delfino is young,strong, and can defend. problem is hes streaky at best. but hes athletic and can defend and hes a freakin argentinian!! cant go wrong with that.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
exactly my point.
RIGHT NOW barry is injury prone and not young anymore.
Delfino is young,strong, and can defend. problem is hes streaky at best. but hes athletic and can defend and hes a freakin argentinian!! cant go wrong with that.
He hasn't proved all the qualities all the other Argies in the NBA did, in fact, quite the opposite. He always had a tremendous potential, but always failed to deliver...hopefully with Manu and Fabricio around he changes the microchip in his head and doesn't end buried in Pop's doghouse.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
He hasn't proved all the qualities all the other Argies in the NBA did, in fact, quite the opposite. He always had a tremendous potential, but always failed to deliver...hopefully with Manu and Fabricio around he changes the microchip in his head and doesn't end buried in Pop's doghouse.
thats what im trying to say!!
the fact that hes argentinian will help us because he has the argentinain chemistry with Fab and Gino.
that alone is worth the LLE...:blah
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
well let me ask you this than?
if you were the Spurs FO, who would you sign for the LLE?
Brent Barry or Carlos Delfino?
Delfino for sure! He is much better going to the basket and creating contact and he is much stronger. Much like barry he has no mid range game to speak of but he can get to the basket and is 12 yrs younger
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
Delfino arrives at the Spurs practice facility for the first time.
One of the coaches handles him #94 or something like that.
"No way, 20 is my number"
http://pistonsnotebook.files.wordpre...7/delfino1.jpg
http://www.nba.com/media/act_carlos_delfino.jpg
Is #8 available? Just to indicate "Not even the half of #20"
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:rollin
and the spurs are starting free agency just like they have every single year since summer '03.
Aim for the dregs, end up with crap.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Cant_Be_Faded
Attention Whore
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Depends who else comprises the swingman rotation. If the Spurs miss out on all the big names, might have to go with Delfino with the hope that he suddenly figures it out.
Do you think Pietrus would work better than Delfino with us?
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
Delfino seems like a guy destined to be in Pop's doghouse.
I still don't understand why the Spurs appear to have given up on Brent Barry :madrun
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I hope this is not a fallback option to the pending Maggette acquisition. I admit I've not been impressed with this guy the few times I've seen him. Though he could be a nice addition off the bench.
I also wonder if the R.C and Pop ever call up previous coaches, GMs for their feedback on a particular player before signing him. I'm sure this level of "due diligence" is performed, but I've never heard about it before.
Having said that, I wonder why Delfino didn't work out at his previous two stops?
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
This guy looks like a giant fuckin douchebag, and we should avoid offering him anything for that reason alone.
Sign Petrius.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
If Maggette isn't possible, Delfino + Pietrus wouldn't be bad.
Last year it was Finley, Barry, Vaugn going into the season. Delfino, Pietrus, Hill is an upgrade in youth and athleticsm over that, and more importantly are upgrades in terms of trade assets. Maggette & Delfino would be a very successful off season.
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Wouldn't it suck if the Spurs offered the LLE only to be outbid by Tau.....
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by
timvp
I've followed him pretty closely over the year so I don't think I'm judging him too quick. He was on the Pistons for all but one year of his career, so it wasn't like he was on horrible teams.
Delfino is known commodity at this point. It's worth the roll of the dice for a reasonable contract if Ginobili and Oberto agree to it ... but you can't sugarcoat his career to this point.
If I may, I live near Detroit and have watched a lot of Delfino, including a handful of Raps games. What timVP says about his character and skill set is pretty much dead on. But even given all the warts mentioned, he's probably still a 2.5 or 3 million a year guy. To get him for the LLE would be well worth it.
Three notes: 1) he is a glory-hound, but he's ultra competitive and will sometimes channel his inner-Ginobli when pissed off; 2) the best aspect of his game is his defense--but only when he wants it, he goes through periods of laziness--and can really bother guys when he turns it on 3) he's a streak three shooter, but fairly good in that area.
He'd fit in the offense if asked to play 15 to 20 minutes per night. In fact, I think he would be a marked improvement over Finley. In their primes, you take Fin 100/100 times, but at this point Delfino is a step or two up in terms of his own ability and in terms if spelling Ginobli.
I'm going long here, but I think Delfino is the sort of player that would really do well floating on the perimeter as Maggette and Parker get into the lane or teams collapse on Duncan. That should further elevate his production. Offensively, the Spurs would give every team in the league fits with Parker, Ginobli, Delfino and Maggette.
That's a lot to account for. Really, it's just an incredibly good roster. Any added production from Mahinmi or Hill, or second year improved play from Thomas or Udoka, would just be icing on the cake. There is no question that adding Maggette and Delfino would make this a championship team.
Damn Pop for standing pat and remaining old as dirt.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
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Originally Posted by Tully365;2640698[B
]If Maggette isn't possible, Delfino + Pietrus wouldn't be bad. [/B]
Last year it was Finley, Barry, Vaugn going into the season. Delfino, Pietrus, Hill is an upgrade in youth and athleticsm over that, and more importantly are upgrades in terms of trade assets. Maggette & Delfino would be a very successful off season.
I agree wholeheartedly!
:toast