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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
What I didn't like about Delfino is that he seems to think he's a better shooter than he actually is. He sometimes take 2-3 ill advised shots that makes a 2-5 point game back to to a 10 point deficit. He's like a career 40% shooter.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
How am I an attention whore? I point out the obvious to start a ruckus-infused spurstalk conversation.
And I am still not believing how many posters on this board still get excited about free agency. We are going to end up with another Udoka or Tony Massenburg and that is it.
As the timvp would say, I am making contrarian posts.
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Re: Spurs Offer Carlos Delfino 2 Year Deal
I can't imagine the FO didn't at least talk to Manu & Oberto before considering an offer. If Pop and those two are good with it, I'm good with it. Oberto plays better with manu on the floor and I imagine Delfino would too.
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resistanze
What I didn't like about Delfino is that he seems to think he's a better shooter than he actually is. He sometimes take 2-3 ill advised shots that makes a 2-5 point game back to to a 10 point deficit. He's like a career 40% shooter.
He's got your typical playground game--he's good at getting to the hoop and launching threes, but he has no mid range game to speak of. He's three point percentage is higher than his mid range percentage, I'm sure. I think he shot 40% or so from 3 last year.
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tav1
If I may, I live near Detroit and have watched a lot of Delfino, including a handful of Raps games. What timVP says about his character and skill set is pretty much dead on. But even given all the warts mentioned, he's probably still a 2.5 or 3 million a year guy. To get him for the LLE would be well worth it.
Three notes: 1) he is a glory-hound, but he's ultra competitive and will sometimes channel his inner-Ginobli when pissed off; 2) the best aspect of his game is his defense--but only when he wants it, he goes through periods of laziness--and can really bother guys when he turns it on 3) he's a streak three shooter, but fairly good in that area.
He'd fit in the offense if asked to play 15 to 20 minutes per night. In fact, I think he would be a marked improvement over Finley. In their primes, you take Fin 100/100 times, but at this point Delfino is a step or two up in terms of his own ability and in terms if spelling Ginobli.
I'm going long here, but I think Delfino is the sort of player that would really do well floating on the perimeter as Maggette and Parker get into the lane or teams collapse on Duncan. That should further elevate his production. Offensively, the Spurs would give every team in the league fits with Parker, Ginobli, Delfino and Maggette.
That's a lot to account for. Really, it's just an incredibly good roster. Any added production from Mahinmi or Hill, or second year improved play from Thomas or Udoka, would just be icing on the cake. There is no question that adding Maggette and Delfino would make this a championship team.
Damn Pop for standing pat and remaining old as dirt.
Ultra competitive, takes pride in D... that's an LLE player!
There's no way his character or attitude defects come close to J R Smith's.
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Tully365
Ultra competitive, takes pride in D... that's an LLE player!
There's no way his character or attitude defects come close to J R Smith's.
Well, be careful. It's ego competitive, which is sometimes detrimental. But he does get that crazed Argentine stare going. And he *sometimes* takes pride in D. Without Maggette, Delfino would constiture a subpar signing. With Maggette, he's a great addition.
Agree about Smith.
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Was Delfino a big part of that arg team that won it all a few years ago? Barry and fin are playoff tested.
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Delfino is a good athlete.
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T_MONEY_TX
Was Delfino a big part of that arg team that won it all a few years ago? Barry and fin are playoff tested.
Not a big part. He was a role player coming from the bench, giving Manu rest.
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tav1
Well, be careful. It's ego competitive, which is sometimes detrimental. But he does get that crazed Argentine stare going. And he *sometimes* takes pride in D. Without Maggette, Delfino would constiture a subpar signing. With Maggette, he's a great addition.
Agree about Smith.
I wouldn't like this if it was part of the MLE, but if it's the LLE then I'd say a Delfino type of player is about the absolute ceiling in terms of talent & potential. Diop just got the entire MLE according to reports! Even Azubuike is expected to ask for at least 3 mil per. Toss in the familiarity with oberto & Ginobili, and I think you've got a steal.
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There is no way, that if the Spurs actually made him an offer, that it would be for less than half the MLE, which means bye bye Maggette, Smith, Childress or anyone like that...
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DPG21920
There is no way, that if the Spurs actually made him an offer, that it would be for less than half the MLE, which means bye bye Maggette, Smith, Childress or anyone like that...
That's what I'm thinking, too.
The LLE would be too small for him, given the $70 million offer he got overseas. I'm thinking they're offering 2 years, half the MLE, and the opportunity to play with his buddies Manu and Fab to try and lure him to San Antonio.
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That would ruin all my happy feelings if that were true. Not because I am set on J.R. or Corey, those would just be absolute bonuses, but because there are so many other players worth that money that could help out imo.
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bigdog
That's what I'm thinking, too.
The LLE would be too small for him, given the $70 million offer he got overseas. I'm thinking they're offering 2 years, half the MLE, and the opportunity to play with his buddies Manu and Fab to try and lure him to San Antonio.
To someone with an alleged $70M offer, half the MLE and the LLE are indistinguishable.
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if they sign him, whats next? fabio?
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where is whottt when you need him :devil
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Oh, and MLE deals must be for three years, minimum. You can offer an opt out, but in some way shape or form, it must be three years.
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By your estimation then exstatic, Delfino is unattainable. If he has a 70 million dollar offer, and no team can offer him more than the MLE than it does not matter the decision is made.
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I like his strength and toughness on the perimeter if he can bring it on a consistent basis.. Pop, Manu and Fab will help keep him motivated and focused hopefully. A poor man's Nocioni but can definitely help the Spurs defend the LeBrons, Kobes etc.
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WTF is Carlos Delfino thinking if he really got offered 70 million dollars in Europe.
I would not even consider the LLE or half of the MLE....anyone would be completely retarded to settle for that. But, I don't believe that 70 million offer is legit anyways.
However, if the Spurs could some how pull off this line-up.....I would be stoked!
Parker, Hill, Vaughn
Maggette, Ginobili, Hairston
Bowen, Delfino, Udoka
Duncan, Horry, Bonner
Oberto, Thomas, Mahinmi
Too damn good to be true.
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ROFL @ the idea that Delfino is being offered $70M in Europe.
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timvp
ROFL @ the idea that Delfino is being offered $70M in Europe.
Artest received a 3 year, $73 million offer from the Athens Trojan Horses according to the forum's Greek correspondent.
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[QUOTE=Too damn good to be true.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Don't these Maggette talks reek of pre draft talks where we all got hopes up, put in our two cents only to find out the Spurs went a different direction. If we get Maggette, fantastic, if we do not, we should not have gotten our hopes up. We can still get some good players.
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timvp
ROFL @ the idea that Delfino is being offered $70M in Europe.
:lol:lol:lol
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DPG21920
By your estimation then exstatic, Delfino is unattainable. If he has a 70 million dollar offer, and no team can offer him more than the MLE than it does not matter the decision is made.
Someone was implying that it must be a partial MLE deal. I just pointed out the obvious. That's all I'm saying. I doubt he's unattainable, because I doubt there is any $70M offer on the table.
I like Delfino because he didn't take any fucking shit from LB. I find that to be a good quality.