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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
True, the potential wing acquisitions sure aren't sharpshooters in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
Finley at this point is so bad in every other area that he doesn't shoot well enough to keep him the court. He shot 36.5% from 3 in the playoffs, next year would be even worse.
Barry on the other hand shot 3-pointer at 46.3%, and is able to pass the ball well still at this point.
Unfortunately all the other options aren't great shooters either. But the hope is that they'd be able to affect the game in other ways like rebounding or defense that they have a positive effect on the game even if they're not shooting well.
Carlos Delfino in the 08 playoffs shot a miserable 26.7% from three. In 2007 he was even more revolting in the playoffs, in those 16 games he vomited up 18.8% shooting from 3.
The other options aren't much better in the playoffs.
Corey Maggette's only playoff run in 2006 he only shot 33.3% from three. Sure, he was better in the 2008 regular season shooting 38.4% from three. BUT in 2007 he shot a disgusting 20% from three for the season. And he's a career 33% shooter.
Mickael Pietrus in his lone playoff run in 2007 shot only 25.9% from three. The 2008 regular season was only 35.3% from downtown.
Even JR Smith hasn't been that great with regards to the playoffs. This year against the Lakers he only shot 31.8% from three. In 2007 against the Spurs in the first round, he shot a mindboggling 0% on 0-12 shooting from downtown.
So no matter what this offseason, if the Spurs lose Barry they're likely going to have a dropoff in 3-point shooting efficiency.
Exactly. :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by objective
Barry's more important than most realize, and expecting to bring in 2-3 new rotation players on the wing to pick-up where Barry/Finley left off... In there first year in this system? Under playoff pressure? We've all seen how even the best shooters struggle.(Kerr, Barry)
I realize we might have to find a way to get it done with less than ideal 3-point shooting, but Delfino and Pietrus are the types that shrink in the clutch. The last thing I want to see in big moments is: players passing-up open shots/3's, players over-passing, and players driving where there are no lanes because they're afraid to take a shot. It absolutely kills the offense and demoralizes the team.
I'm not against Pietrus as much as Delfino, because I feel he can fill a role similar to Bowen. Granted he lacks Bruces grit on defense, but he brings great athleticism and he's comfortable shooting from the corners.
I'm praying though for Maggette and Barry.
who had a post man such as duncan though he makes things a lot easier
If you want to look at it another way, the two worst percentage shooting playoffs for Barry resulted in championships. The rest resulted in early fishing trips.Quote:
Originally Posted by objective
Duncan provides people with open shots, not the balls to take/make those shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by thekingrobert
Yeah, but Barry among others reputation for hitting those shots kept defenses honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Maybe they weren't hitting a great percentage, but those driving-lanes were open for penetration.
I still think they will resign barry, the lakers will never sign barry or fin due to lux tax.....they are blowing smoke. They still have to worry about signing turri and sasha and are already at almost 80m and bynum wants a max extention....I would be surprised if the lakers sign anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
also Fino and Maggs would bring more fouls and more free throw shooting because they are able to penetrate, I want Barry back though
I'm with TimVP on this one, I don't like Delfino as a player. He's never had the stones to get it done when it matters. Also, I'm not sure playing with Manu would help him much. I think he's gotten compared to Manu so much in his career, especially in Argentina, that he has let it get into his head and affect his play. I'm afraid if the two of them are together he'd try to make it a competition and play selfishly. It's not a good fit at all.
As someone said, when Delfino is in a mood to defend, he is a very good defender, I remember a match between Pistons and Miami where Wade was scoring at will, Delfino entered the game and haunted Wade all over the court, resulting in Wade scoring 0 ZERO points while Delfino was on court. As soon as he sat, Wade started scoring again, no fricking kidding.
Now, with Pop and the threat of the doghouse, I am willing to believe he will bring his "A" defense :toast
if he can play team ball he brings everything to the table you can want out the 2 or 3 positions
I think Maggette and JR Smith will play it cool for a while and see what happens with Baron Davis, Brand, Josh Smith, etc., and wait to find out who might have the ability to make an offer above the MLE. If you accept this as a likely strategy, then it makes sense to use the LLE before the MLE. If Delfino is willing to sign for two years at LLE, there's really no risk involved. He's younger & more athletic than the back-up wings of the past couple years-- a step in the right direction-- and if it's not a good fit he's a tradable asset. I think expecting anything more than that with the LLE is really a stretch.
how much is the LLE annually?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tully365
lle is usually around 1.8
I'm not a big fan of Delfino.
I think he's seeing himself better than he really is. And he's trying to play like that player he isn't instead of concentrating on doing well what he can do.
He could be a good role player if he'd just do that and accept he'll never be Manu.
He's not great, but a pretty good deal if it's the LLE.
i dont like Delfino, he is soft!! he is slow!! he has bad shooting percentage!! he is a bad defender!!!
theres no doubt in my mind....delfino wouldnt help the spurs..i myself watch many many nba games....most very up close(except during rodeo)...ive met the man and ive seen him in during warm ups before the crowd is allowed in...let me tell ya he isnt good in the nba....Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
I trust RC has far up close and personal NBA knowledge than you, friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrspurs
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1026940
Orlando's 14 Mill offer for three years is the one leading the charge to get the guy... Cleveland is pushing too... San Antonio may just have a lower offer but Delfino would love to be with Manu and Oberto plus Scola isn't far to get together for barbecues as well...
Russian club Khimky doubles the best NBA offer he got...
I'm not that excited about this potential signing but it might work if Carlos is paired with one of his NT mates on the floor. Delfino could use a shooting coach. He needs to add some consistency and emotional stability to his game. He has the athleticism to play in the NBA, no doubt, and he plays decent defense when he wants to.
Delfino >> Finley
Barry >> Delfino
Roger Mason >> Delfino
and as defender Delfino >> all those 3 above
at this point in their careers when he really tries, he is better defender than Manu
Anthony Parker and Ron Artest were offer $73 million by Panathinaikos and Olympiacos and Delfino is offer $70 million by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Just because players not take these offers not mean they not get offer. How many times it have to be explain here? Olympiacos and Panathinaikos is much richer than any NBA team.
But Spurs have good chance get Delfino because so far he is not so interest in the offers he have been given by Greek clubs.