bingo..... or someone close to his talent.... i know finley isnt gonna get faster over the summer, who else we have after finley? barry? i know he isnt gonna get faster over the summer either
07-04-2008
ElNono
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by v2freak
So when does pride become nationalism? I've seen the two be applied to the exact same situation, although one is held in a much more positive light. And the Spurs drafted Ginobili at a ridiculously low number. Had the Spurs not taken a chance on Ginobili, I don't know where he'd be right now. There's also an argument that he's developed tremendously as a player playing next to Duncan, learning the Spurs system and performing against the bad.
How does where the Spurs drafted him has anything to do with how talented the guy is? The Spurs brought him over right after the 2002 championships in Indiana when they saw first hand what he can bring to the team. If the Spurs didn't bring him over then, and still kept his rights (doubtful), he would still be making millions of Euros in Europe. You make it sound like the Spurs gave him the talent or something.
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Some homers here act like Ginobili single-handedly led the Spurs to 3 championships. He was absolutely critical in 2005 when Duncan was limping - I'll give you that. Without him, the Spurs would not have pulled it out. Still interesting why he only had good games when Duncan did though.
I'll take Pop word on it, where he says we wouldn't have won them without Ginobili. Now, I don't claim he single-handedly led the Spurs. That would be Timmy. But he contributed largely to the cause. Think back a little bit. How long did Tony took to develop? Maybe 3 or 4 years? Think about Manu. It took him about a season to catch up. But by the end of his first season, he was playing crunch time on our team. He was an All-Star by his second season. When have you seen something like that in any other Spur player under Pop's command? That's how special Manu has been.
07-04-2008
ElNono
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Argiebabe
mmmm... do you know wich was the first country to win the world tittle in basketball???
Mujer, that was 58 years ago. Not to mention that there were only 6 teams involved in the actual competition. The star of that Argentina team, top scorer and MVP of the tournament was Oscar Furlong, who averaged 11,2 ppg(!). I'm talking modern basketball here. Like from the 80's onwards.
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Besides that... I believe that Manu knows pretty well that an injury on this olympics could cause big damage to his relationship with the spurs and his career , also he is aware that our nt needs him and that this could be his last chance representing our country.
He is a fighter who ALWAYS wants to win (and to show that he decided to play and put aside the bad relationship he has with the argie coach)... I love the spurs and I love Manu, it would suck if he gets hurt... but I know he will do anything to take good care of himself and get the gold medal.
Totalmente de acuerdo.
07-04-2008
angel_luv
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Originally Posted by Solid D
Don Harris on WOAI 6PM news said he spoke with Manu's agent Herb Rudoy about an hour ago and "Manu has every intention of playing in the Olympics."
all videos from press conference with the team before going to training camp in Rosario
07-04-2008
SPURSGOAT
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Cherry
"Play Ginobili" commercial :lol
:lol :lmao :king That was awsome!
07-04-2008
Walton Buys Off Me
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Anybody that knows me on this board knows I'm a huge Manu Ginobili mark. Next to David Robinson, he's my second favorite Spur of all-time. The same people that know me also know my opinion on this Manu-Olympics debate. Fact of the matter is this; Manu's injury arguably cost the Spurs their best chance (possible only real chance) of ever winning a back-to-back. I'm sorry Argentinians, but that fucking stings. What stings more is seeing him pumped and ready to embark on a grueling journey in Beijing while the Boston Celtics parade around the Larry O'Brien trophy with the smell of champagne still fresh on the parkay in Beantown.
I side with Pop on this one and unfortunately I think that Manu has played his last game as a Spur and as a Manu Ginobili fan, I don't blame the Spurs one bit if they move him. Gregg Popovich has changed a lot over the years, his incredible success understandably, has mellowed him. That being said, when it comes to Spurs basketball and winning NBA championships, you don't cross the boss. Manu has officially soured that relationship.
Neither side is really at fault, I respect Manu's decision but I'm a Spurs fan, so is Pop.
07-04-2008
urunobili
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Walton Buys Off Me
Anybody that knows me on this board knows I'm a huge Manu Ginobili mark. Next to David Robinson, he's my second favorite Spur of all-time. The same people that know me also know my opinion on this Manu-Olympics debate. Fact of the matter is this; Manu's injury arguably cost the Spurs their best chance (possible only real chance) of ever winning a back-to-back. I'm sorry Argentinians, but that fucking stings. What stings more is seeing him pumped and ready to embark on a grueling journey in Beijing while the Boston Celtics parade around the Larry O'Brien trophy with the smell of champagne still fresh on the parkay in Beantown.
I side with Pop on this one and unfortunately I think that Manu has played his last game as a Spur and as a Manu Ginobili fan, I don't blame the Spurs one bit if they move him. Gregg Popovich has changed a lot over the years, his incredible success understandably, has mellowed him. That being said, when it comes to Spurs basketball and winning NBA championships, you don't cross the boss. Manu has officially soured that relationship.
Neither side is really at fault, I respect Manu's decision but I'm a Spurs fan, so is Pop.
It is an enormous honor to carry your country's flag in the Olympics. This is an extremely proud moment for him, his country and his fans. I wish that people could see past this Spurs vs. National Team thing and see the bigger picture.
07-04-2008
Cherry
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Walton Buys Off Me
Anybody that knows me on this board knows I'm a huge Manu Ginobili mark. Next to David Robinson, he's my second favorite Spur of all-time. The same people that know me also know my opinion on this Manu-Olympics debate. Fact of the matter is this; Manu's injury arguably cost the Spurs their best chance (possible only real chance) of ever winning a back-to-back. I'm sorry Argentinians, but that fucking stings. What stings more is seeing him pumped and ready to embark on a grueling journey in Beijing while the Boston Celtics parade around the Larry O'Brien trophy with the smell of champagne still fresh on the parkay in Beantown.
I side with Pop on this one and unfortunately I think that Manu has played his last game as a Spur and as a Manu Ginobili fan, I don't blame the Spurs one bit if they move him. Gregg Popovich has changed a lot over the years, his incredible success understandably, has mellowed him. That being said, when it comes to Spurs basketball and winning NBA championships, you don't cross the boss. Manu has officially soured that relationship.
Neither side is really at fault, I respect Manu's decision but I'm a Spurs fan, so is Pop.
STOP THE DRAMA
You don't know Manu at all.
He didn't cross "the boss". If he feels pain in the next 10 days, he will say it. That's the deal with Popovich and Spurs
Manu's not stupid for God's sake! :lol
07-04-2008
v2freak
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Walton Buys Off Me
Anybody that knows me on this board knows I'm a huge Manu Ginobili mark. Next to David Robinson, he's my second favorite Spur of all-time. The same people that know me also know my opinion on this Manu-Olympics debate. Fact of the matter is this; Manu's injury arguably cost the Spurs their best chance (possible only real chance) of ever winning a back-to-back. I'm sorry Argentinians, but that fucking stings. What stings more is seeing him pumped and ready to embark on a grueling journey in Beijing while the Boston Celtics parade around the Larry O'Brien trophy with the smell of champagne still fresh on the parkay in Beantown.
I side with Pop on this one and unfortunately I think that Manu has played his last game as a Spur and as a Manu Ginobili fan, I don't blame the Spurs one bit if they move him. Gregg Popovich has changed a lot over the years, his incredible success understandably, has mellowed him. That being said, when it comes to Spurs basketball and winning NBA championships, you don't cross the boss. Manu has officially soured that relationship.
Neither side is really at fault, I respect Manu's decision but I'm a Spurs fan, so is Pop.
:tu
07-04-2008
porscha
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Cherry
"Live Manu Play Ginobili" commercial :lol
:lmao:lmao:lol:lol:lmao
07-04-2008
dbreiden83080
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by spurschick
It is an enormous honor to carry your country's flag in the Olympics. This is an extremely proud moment for him, his country and his fans. I wish that people could see past this Spurs vs. National Team thing and see the bigger picture.
Manu already has a gold medal
He played like shit in the playoffs thanks to a terrible ankle injury
According to reports he is still hurt and needs injections in the ankle to treat it.
He is making tons of money for the Spurs
I don't see what big picture anyone who is against this is missing here. Yeah it is an honor to carry that flag but for me when you are a pro, and make the kind of money he makes and end a season badly hurt, you owe it to your team to rest up. If he was healthy i could support this but since Manu is anything but healthy i can't support it at all.
07-04-2008
all_heart
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by Walton Buys Off Me
Anybody that knows me on this board knows I'm a huge Manu Ginobili mark. Next to David Robinson, he's my second favorite Spur of all-time. The same people that know me also know my opinion on this Manu-Olympics debate. Fact of the matter is this; Manu's injury arguably cost the Spurs their best chance (possible only real chance) of ever winning a back-to-back. I'm sorry Argentinians, but that fucking stings. What stings more is seeing him pumped and ready to embark on a grueling journey in Beijing while the Boston Celtics parade around the Larry O'Brien trophy with the smell of champagne still fresh on the parkay in Beantown.
I side with Pop on this one and unfortunately I think that Manu has played his last game as a Spur and as a Manu Ginobili fan, I don't blame the Spurs one bit if they move him. Gregg Popovich has changed a lot over the years, his incredible success understandably, has mellowed him. That being said, when it comes to Spurs basketball and winning NBA championships, you don't cross the boss. Manu has officially soured that relationship.
Neither side is really at fault, I respect Manu's decision but I'm a Spurs fan, so is Pop.
I'm sure Pop like a whole lot of people wish he'd stay home this summer, but he's not going anywhere. Pop is too professional to throw him in the doghouse. After all it's his last chance to represent his home country and defend it's gold medal in the Olympics in the game he loves the most. Do you really want him to stay home and regret not playing the rest of his life? All because Pop wants him to? Manu would probably resent that for a very long time.
Sure our chances of repeating would have been good if Manu was healthy.. but him playing this summer cant' change what already happened. If Manu is hurt, he won't play.. if he's ok fine.. Having said that.. he better not injure his ankle further and require surgery, that for sure wouldn't sit well with Pop and a lot of us here. Good luck Manu, please stay healthy. You too Fab.
07-04-2008
spurschick
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by dbreiden83080
don't see what big picture anyone who is against this is missing here. Yeah it is an honor to carry that flag but for me when you are a pro, and make the kind of money he makes and end a season badly hurt, you owe it to your team to rest up. If he was healthy i could support this but since Manu is anything but healthy i can't support it at all.
That's really what it's all about for some people... money. The big picture is that, when Manu is 80 years old and looks back on his life, he'll be proud that he didn't let money dictate what he did with his life.
Manu looks almost as happy as he did when he won the Sixth Man of the Year.
07-05-2008
Marcus Bryant
Re: Manu's Agent says....
Training camp begins Oct. 1.
07-05-2008
ducks
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manu is starting to get in the doghouse
spurs have to watch out for themselves
07-05-2008
ducks
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if spurs extend him
they need to put in the contract he can not play for his country or any basketball other then the spurs
07-05-2008
wijayas
Re: Manu's Agent says....
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Originally Posted by spurschick
It is an enormous honor to carry your country's flag in the Olympics. This is an extremely proud moment for him, his country and his fans. I wish that people could see past this Spurs vs. National Team thing and see the bigger picture.
