But they would technically be " a possibility" though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
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But they would technically be " a possibility" though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
If CM is amenable to an MLE, could Boston offer a better contract in terms of the following years after earning MLE, than the Spurs?
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Originally Posted by LA Times
Not good news. Hopefully those "sources" are just providing idle speculation.
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Originally Posted by John_C
Well I guess, if he wants to play for a winner, then he could choose the winner that could offer him a much better reward for the coming years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
But hell, GSW may just really mess this all up. I don't think Brand will go there. If Clippers up their offer, and it comes to maybe just 20M difference from GSW's offer, then Brand may opt to stay since the Clippers will be a contender, while GSW may still be rebuilding.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Yes Chris Mullen.
You have 5 swingmen.
Naturally, you HAVE to get another.
Genius.
:pctoss
While I think they do have interest in him, I don't see him ending up there, especially with Pierce and Allen starting. It seems like Maggette will be taking the paycut and signing somewhere for the MLE. I highly doubt he'd want to do that AND come off the bench. In my mind, there's no way he does that.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
If the Warriors do go after Maggette, hopefully they revert back to their cost conscious ways when it comes to giving perimeter players contracts. They did make a large offer to Arenas, but that could be seen as an attempt to land a star free agent to replace the one they were losing. Maybe what they offer wouldn't be much of an improvement over the MLE contract the Spurs are offering, especially when considering the possibility of a much larger guaranteed contract for Maggette in 2010 from the Spurs.
If Maggette is serious about the contender issue, then he would spurn that offer from the Warriors you would think.
Doubt it.
Mullin is an idiot. What sounds better, sign their own guys for cheap, or spend all the money on one dude? Hopefully it's common sense for a guy that has a team loaded with swingmen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
Warriors do not need Maggette.
Spurs could tech. offer more money, (no state-tax) a starting job, more minutes, and a chance to be seen as the player that put a team over the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
The only team that makes sense for Maggette to play for at the MLE is S.A.
Then again, It almost makes too much sense.
Yeah the no state tax could be ok although he would still pay the state tax since he lives in San Diego, but thats another thread for another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
Everything bias aside, I really do think the Spurs and Maggette are the only "perfect" fit. The need for a scorer/slasher, need to get younger, possibly have the cap space in 2010 to offer a very nice contract, and the chance to play for a championship AND start.
I think that's just too perfect. The other teams shouldn't even come close to that.
Maggette market value is at least $50M/5 years.
If Warriors or Sixers come with a $50M or $60M contract, I don't see Maggette signing for $32M with Spurs.
I don't find Maggette makes a lot of sense for both Warriors and Sixers but he is by far the only unrestricted free agent available. If one of these two teams decide to settle with Maggette, Spurs are basically fucked and can go to their plan B.
Damn, that sucks. That's about the worst possible thing that could happen. If both the Warriors and 76ers turn their attention to Maggette, they'd bid each other way higher than the MLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
The Spurs are going to have to need a lot of luck in the next week. The Sixers are going to have to land Josh Smith. And then the Warriors are going to have to find something better than Maggette ... which would likely involve a trade.
Maggette landing in San Antonio is going to take the perfect storm. So far, it's been perfect but there are at least two huge obstacles in the way before anything comes close to being official -- Golden State and Philadelphia.
And also, the Spurs are the only one after him as really for necessity, while others are just after him for a seemingly fall back plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdog
Another wrinkle. Likely the Spurs are offering Maggette a 3 year MLE deal with a player option after the 2nd season so he could opt out and receive a larger deal from the Spurs or from another team during the Great LeBron James Sweepstakes of 2010 when half of the league will have the cap flexibility to offer a max contract to a free agent. A 3 year deal starting at the assumed MLE of $5.8 mil for 2008-09 would be $18.8 mil total over those 3 years, guaranteed. The Spurs could offer an option or an ETO on a longer term deal, like, say, a max MLE offer of $33.6 mil where Maggette would have the ability to opt out after the 4th year of the contract (2012). That would, though, mean that Maggette would have to play on a MLE contract through the rest of the prime of his career and then hope that someone would throw a large amount of $ at him when he's 32.
If the Warriors wanted to sign him just to have a tradeable asset for later, they could definitely offer him something sensible, like say a 5 yr/$45 mil contract. That would start at $7.75 mil for 2008-09. And the Sixers could always come in with a larger offer if they miss out on Josh Smith.
If I'm the Sixers, I'd be all over Maggette:
PG Andre Miller
SG Corey Maggette
SF Andre Iguodala
PF Thaddeus Young
C Samuel Dalembert
That's a damn good team. Not a true power forward in that bunch but with an athletic center and three other athletic players, they can get away without one.
Josh Smith > Corey Maggette ... but if I'm the Sixers, I probably go the safe route and ensure that Willie Green never sees the starting lineup again by getting a real shooting guard.
Yeah the shit teams are gonna fuck it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Fucking shit....
I'm sure thats their line of thinking right after the Hawks match Smith..Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Pray that Maggette wants a ring and actually follows up on what he says.
Sixers dont need Maggette and they arent trying to win now. Make a huge offer to JR Smith or someone else. You fuckers also need a power foward and also have Thaddeaus Young waiting in the wings. Plus Iggs is also one of your own restricted free agents you need to worry about. Sixers are in need of a bigman than a wing. Same goes for the Warriors. Both of those teams are fucking stupid to land a guy who isnt going to make them that much better and arent they both building for the future.
It looks good, but they desperately need some 3-point shooting. It was pretty painful to watch them in the half-court against Detroit in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
In that case, Maggette is a much better three-point shooter than Josh Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKJACK21
The only way the Spurs could compete (and it's a long shot) is basically the 'wink and nod' approach of 'sign with us now for a short term deal and you can opt out in 2010 when the market will be better for free agents and, oh, btw, we will probably have a lot of cap room then.' Of course, he'd be leaving a lot of guaranteed money on the table (assuming GS and/or Philly come at him with a $45 mil+ offer). But, it could pay off much better for him than taking a $50 mil offer today. The MLE for the next two years would be $12.1 mil. If Maggette opted out then and re-signed with the Spurs to a 5 year deal starting at $11 mil, that would be worth $66.5 mil. So basically he'd end up with $78.6 mil over the next 7 years instead of, say, $50 mil over the next 5 plus probably a reduced salary in years 6 and 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Again, a very long shot. If I had to guess, I think in his mind he thinks he's taken a big risk in opting out. In fact, the worst case scenario has happened to him as the Clippers were able to land a big free agent who necessitates the Clippers renouncing his rights. I think he will be scared straight and will look to wrap up a big long-term guaranteed contract this summer. His luck may rebound as GS and Philly could get into a bidding war for him and result in him getting $60 mil+.
How many times have we as Spurs fans watched other teams go after FAs and laugh and say "well they need this this and this to happen" and fuck if it doesnt.
Stuff like that NEVER falls the Spurs way.