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Originally Posted by T Park
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Originally Posted by T Park
why would it fuck things up? it's not like we're a great team or anything..it's not like we've been the best team in this era or anything..it's not like Maggette doesn't know that..
The Spurs are behind the Hornets because of Chris Paul. That dude will propel Maggette's numbers big time. He'd have a great chance of reaching the finals and would still be able to opt out for Free Agency in 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
If he comes to the Spurs he will have a great chance to succeed on a winning team but he would be third or 4th fiddle in the scoring department. Duncan, Parker, Ginobili...Maggette.
That's how he would see it. His agent is probably making sure that he puts the stats of recent FA's in front of his face..Brent Barry, Michael Finley, Nick Van Excel, etc. In your first year with the Spurs, your legs will burn from playing D and you will be uttering "it takes time to understand the offense and the defense".
In New Orleans it would be "Just be ready Dog".
Not to target you, but several have used the "4th option in S.A." argument and I just don't see it. How is it any different from New Orleans? Paul, West, Peja are the top three there - who's to say he wouldn't be the 4th option there? On top of that, I'm not buying that he would necessarily be the 4th option here. All of our stars have proven to be unselfish and I have no doubt that they would give up the rock without hesitation when Maggette's game was on.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
His agent is going to compare him to Nick Van Exel?
:lmao
Rivers talks to Maggette.
IMHO...I really think that they want to bring Posey back...and that basically kills any chance that they bring Maggette in. If I were Boston there is no way in hell I let Posey get away, especially with the impact he had during the post season. That being said...if Maggette does sign with the Celts we had better be the first in line to chunk our MLE at Posey.Quote:
The Celtics have made offers to their own forward, James Posey, and Maggette, but it's doubtful they can accommodate both. While there is no news regarding Posey, Maggette said he could be coming to Boston in the near future to visit with the Celtics. Free agents can't sign until Wednesday.
"I don't want to hold the Celtics up or [general manager] Danny Ainge," said Maggette in a telephone interview. "I talked to Doc . . . I'm not going to hold them up. I know they are still looking at James Posey. But I'm still weighing my options."
This really comes down to Maggette and whether or not he wants to play for a winner. After all those years on the Clippers I honestly think that the Sixers have no shot no matter how much cash they throw at him. He as already hinted that he would take less to win so why would he even consider it? GS is interesting. He could probably see the playoffs with them but again, there is no chance of ring. The only way that he goes that direction is the combination of more money and the chance to play in a very wide open, run and gun offense.
Overall, I agree with those who say we have about as good a shot as anyone else. I predict that Posey resigns and its between us and GS.
As far as other free agents go...I'd like to see us split our MLE between Pietrus and one of the bigs on the market like Najera. No one has mentioned it but why aren't we trying to make a run at Carl Landry? He is restricted but the Rockets have only offered him a little over 700k. We could easily match with half of our MLE and steal him away.
Oh...and NO J.R. Smith.
Rockets will match any reasonable offer for Landry.Quote:
No one has mentioned it but why aren't we trying to make a run at Carl Landry? He is restricted but the Rockets have only offered him a little over 700k. We could easily match with half of our MLE and steal him away.
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Originally Posted by Kindergarten Cop
Its not because of selfishness from our guys. It's because of our offense and the way we run it. It seems to be very difficult for people to become acclimated to our Inside-Out offense. When FA's come here they don't want to mess things up and they usually defer to the other guys on the team: Eh-hem...Brent Barry, Michael Finley. That, or its an excuse because they have no legs from trying to play defense.
If you are constantly wondering where you are supposed to be on the floor, or what you are trying to run, it causes people to pass up shots or jack up bad shots and get yanked.
That will probably depend on whether or not they sign Barry away from us. I think they are pretty capped out and can't go over their MLE. If they do sign Barry I think it would be worth a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Yep. Go to San Antonio and say adios to whatever jumper you had. It took Brent Barry 3 years to finally get it. THE SPURS WANT YOU TO SHOOT !! You will likely be open if we move the ball. What did Steven Jackson average here ? Is that a better comparison for you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
No matter what, dude's numbers will go down.....but he'd get his ring. Which, is what we all know, is the reason these guys play the game. :rolleyes
Maggette = NVE!
Please don't speak such things...just letting something like that come off a keyboard is incredibly unsettling.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Really, if all Maggette is interested in are his persaonl stats, he should never have picked up the phone.
"You can't sign there. You're Nick Van Exel!"
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
ChumpDumper = Reads what he wants to and tries to goat people into goofy, long arguments.
It's "goad" and you were the one who compared him to Nick Van Exel.
If any of those players had Maggette's driving ability, you might have had a point. As it is, Maggette is not an old three point shooter.
Nick Van Exel was brought in to be a scoring threat...just like Maggette would. Bring us some buckets ! That's the only comparison and ChumpDumper knows it. He just likes fucking with people.
That is not the comparison. All the players you mentioned were jump shooters only except Jack, who was nothing when he joined the Spurs. Maggette would give the Spurs another player who actually attacks the basket.
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Originally Posted by tmtcsc
But I look at Maggette as more of a Derek Anderson/Stephen Jackson type acquisition with better skills (at the time of them joining/possibly joining). Maggette is a slasher that gets to the FT line. I can't remember us pursuing a FA with the knack for doing what Maggette does at such a high level.
The only players that have successfully driven to the basket on this team are Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Derek Anderson (to some degree). Apparently, when Tim is on the floor, people have a tendency to sit at the 3 pt line and wait for their chance. That's what makes Manu a stud.He'll tuck and drive no matter who's in the lane. Well, he did before his ankle problems anyways.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
That's why the Spurs are looking for another player with that ability.
You've figured it out! :clap
Now that Tim has developed his 3pt shot, teams can't hide out down in the lane just because he is on the floor. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
Golden State is on record as wanting to re-sign Biedrins and Ellis, and will. They are both on the books for cheap right now, which is why they haven't re-signed yet. Once GS gives those two their new contracts they'd be capped out and only have the MLE to offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big P
Yes, clearly Maggette would be much higher than the fourth option on a Hornets team with Paul, West, and Peja on it :rolleyesQuote:
Originally Posted by tmtcsc
Well, Biendris counts against the cap about as much as he'll be signed for, maybe a little less. Ellis' cap hold is definitely under the amount he will eventually fetch.
Well, that's the hope. That he would come in here and take the ball to the basket strong. I see JR Smith as a better option to take the ball to the rim. He's much quicker. We'd just have to make sure he doesn't jack up 3's from half court. Jackson fell into that trap and it worked out for us against Dallas and New Jersey in '03. Other than that, he didn't drive to the basket much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kindergarten Cop
Steven Jackson average about 7 more points a season after he left the Spurs.