Warriors targeting Maggette

Of course players usually go for the money. It's not a surprise, but GS is looking at a pretty weird roster if they sign Maggette. I suppose the strategy is to get the best players available and try to trade for needs later.

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Originally Posted by Kindergarten Cop

Of course it's just my opinion, but sometimes "being wanted" or "being appreciated" is far more valuable than money - especially when you consider that the teams that are scouting you are top notch teams. I did not mean to infer that he was in it for a free meal or even that he is an attention whore - but when you get a chance to be the Big Man on Campus and you are in the headlines of numerous papers as the premiere target for some Championship caliber teams, I'd imagine that it would be tough to turn that away.

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I hear ya. I've just become cynical over the years at how much the recruiting thing doesn't work. It started with Chris Webber and ended with the Jason Kidd fiasco. It just doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

I hear ya. I've just become cynical over the years at how much the recruiting thing doesn't work. It started with Chris Webber and ended with the Jason Kidd fiasco. It just doesn't work.

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Actually in hindsight, you could say that it DID work (at least when you consider the best interests of the Spurs).:toast

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

It just doesn't work.

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Except when it does.

Maggette is still young to be thinking that way though.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

Marcus, we had an ongoing discussion about this a couple of days ago. Just admit what you don't want to admit. Its actually liberating... Maggette is going to go to Golden State and all the BS (Just like Rashard Lewis going to Houston) about it not being about the $$ will play itself out.

Remember, he has an agent and that agent will be telling him to not make a decision until the Sixers and Warriors have exhausted all of their options. He has NOTHING to lose. He will get the MLE at the very least so why jump at a decision right away ? If the Spurs were really his favorite option he would have put his signature (or verbal agreement) where his mouth is. Smart teams will pursue other options. In fact, the Spurs should put pressure on him by offering the MLE to JR Smith NOW. Maggette won't commit anywhere for weeks.

He will go to the highest bidder and that will be the Warriors. Brand will stay with the Clippers (Because of Davis) and Golden State will not land any RFA. Maggette will go to GS and put up huge numbers and go for gold when he becomes a FA again.

For those of you trying to say "Maggette doesn't fit the system" because he's an isolation player...think again. Nelson's offense is...first one over the half court line shoots. He'll put up silly numbers and silly shots and won't get slammed for his lack of defense. Its a dream fit for most players.

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Just because the first player across half court takes the shot, doesn't mean that Maggette is a good fit for their system. He put up decent numbers in a starting role for the Clippers and what did he get for his trouble? They renounced his rights.

If he does indeed end up in Golden State, he can be assured of Clippervision - the sequel. He'll be a major cog on a team that score a ton of point, plays no defense and doesn't make the playoffs. Maggette would be a fool not to go to the highest bidder. So if that's the role he wants, no problem.

The Spurs can simply acquire Pietrus, insert him into the starting lineup and move on. No one is gonna sweat it if Maggette turns down the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

The Spurs can simply acquire Pietrus, insert him into the starting lineup and move on. No one is gonna sweat it if Maggette turns down the Spurs.

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Pietrus would be a huge downgrade compared to Maggette and I'd hope the Spurs have other options other than Pietrus.

But, I've never been hopeful of the Spurs getting Maggette - there's always a team with more money when it comes to acquiring 20/5 type of guys.

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Pietrus would be a huge downgrade compared to Maggette and I'd hope the Spurs have other options other than Pietrus.

But, I've never been hopeful of the Spurs getting Maggette - there's always a team with more money when it comes to acquiring 20/5 type of guys.

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No doubt about it. Maybe the Spurs aren't even considering him. But with J.R. Smith practically off the radar, I don't know of any better 2nd option than Pietrus.

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But with J.R. Smith practically off the radar

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What story did I miss about him being off the radar?

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Originally Posted by T Park

What story did I miss about him being off the radar?

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I'm making an assumption, given that Smith is a RFA, that the Nuggets will match whatever MLE offer Smith is likely to receive.

The other obvious fact is why should they overpay for Maggette if they can re-sign some combination of Pietrus and Kelenna for cheaper and add said signings to what they already have in Wright and Randolph? It'd cost them less and they'd have more players for Nellie to tinker with.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

I'm making an assumption, given that Smith is a RFA, that the Nuggets will match whatever MLE offer Smith is likely to receive.

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That's a rather dubious assumption to make. Smith isn't in the headlines yet only because of the Brand/Davis/Maggette merry-go-round.

Remember, Denver is in tax hell and is looking at the luxury tax for whatever JR is offered (ie, an MLE deal to Smith is going to cost them north of $11 million dollars in 2008-2009).

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

I'm making an assumption, given that Smith is a RFA, that the Nuggets will match whatever MLE offer Smith is likely to receive.

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They will, its a given (sorry Tpark, you must be sick of me saying that :lol ), but if one of the clubs with capspace offer him more, then im not sure how high stan would be willing to go.

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Originally Posted by NuGGeTs-FaN

They will, its a given (sorry Tpark, you must be sick of me saying that :lol ), but if one of the clubs with capspace offer him more, then im not sure how high stan would be willing to go.

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Yeah well see if Stan is willing to shell out 11.6 million over a 4th scorer.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Yeah well see if Stan is willing to shell out 11.6 million over a 4th scorer.

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yes we will and ill be happy to let you know when the news comes out that he has matched an MLE offer.

Yeah this is disappointing but not horribly surprising. We'll see what the Warriors will offer. If they offer something above a 5-year, $45M offer, I think Maggette takes it. But if they low ball him with a 5-year, $38-40M, Maggette may still opt for the Spurs and to hit free agency in 2010.

One thing going for the Spurs is Chris Mullin has been strict about not over paying (well, since the Adonal Foyle debacle) and may just bid a few million over the MLE to gauge Maggette's interest. The other thing is Maggette says he wants to win. Of course that very likely just could be talk but we'll find out soon enough.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Just because the first player across half court takes the shot, doesn't mean that Maggette is a good fit for their system. He put up decent numbers in a starting role for the Clippers and what did he get for his trouble? They renounced his rights.

If he does indeed end up in Golden State, he can be assured of Clippervision - the sequel. He'll be a major cog on a team that score a ton of point, plays no defense and doesn't make the playoffs. Maggette would be a fool not to go to the highest bidder. So if that's the role he wants, no problem.

The Spurs can simply acquire Pietrus, insert him into the starting lineup and move on. No one is gonna sweat it if Maggette turns down the Spurs.

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Pietrus instead of Maggette .......not a good trade off......Pietrus is basically B Bowen with a better vertical. He is an OK 3pt shooter, has no midrange game......a very good defender....but his numbers are inflated becasue he played in a fast paced enviorment.....his best season was 11 pts pg.....In San Ant......who plays slower this guy would avg 7-8 a game less than Fin.....I doubt we will even target Pietrus he might be 5th option.

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As for Maggette, the story going around on Thursday had him also leaning toward taking the mid-level exception of approximately $5.8 million per season in a multi-year pact from the San Antonio Spurs. The 6-6, 225-pound swingman is firmly established as one of the more explosive athletic players in the West who has worked hard to become a good long-range shooter. But it sounds like he'll accept the multi-year, mid-level pact for the second consecutive contract just for the opportunity to win with the Spurs. Put him on the floor with Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan, and nobody will doubt the Spurs have got a shot at winning their fourth title in seven years.

Then again, the Warriors have all that money now available with Davis' departure, so Maggette would get big money with a team that plays at break-neck speed — a nice combination, if not as formidable as the Spurs.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8...ole-motivation

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Nothing new. It looks like the Spurs are going to finish second in a chase for a big name free agent for the 234,635 time. :shootme

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Originally Posted by timvp

One thing going for the Spurs is Chris Mullin has been strict about not over paying (well, since the Adonal Foyle debacle) and may just bid a few million over the MLE to gauge Maggette's interest. The other thing is Maggette says he wants to win. Of course that very likely just could be talk but we'll find out soon enough.

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I could see GS giving him a solid offer, not a crazy one, with the idea of shuffling the roster later on.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Nothing new. It looks like the Spurs are going to finish second in a chase for a big name free agent for the 234,635 time. :shootme

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I dont see there what made you think that other than the guy saying "The warriors have money"

Hell it says hes leaning twords SA.

I read it again, for it not being worded very well, he makes it sound like Maggette is coming.

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Originally Posted by T Park

I read it again, for it not being worded very well, he makes it sound like Maggette is coming.

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It's just some opinion piece. If the Warriors are serious about landing Maggette, they will.

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Originally Posted by timvp

It's just some opinion piece. If the Warriors are serious about landing Maggette, they will.

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He said sources are saying hes leaning tword signing with the Spurs.

Hes not the first person to have said that either.

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Josh Smith? Sources inside and outside the organization say he's not on the Warriors' radar.


Corey Maggette? The Warriors like him, but not at much more than the mid-level exception.


Andre Iguodala? Even if the Warriors went after him, (which I'm not sure they will), his restricted status is a big hurdle.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=27854

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In need of a point guard, the Golden State Warriors are expected to see what they can get in a trade for PF Al Harrington. ...

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http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=431805

Its really going to come down to what happens in Philly...I think they are the team that we have to worry about...