Nocioni is available

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Originally Posted by timvp

That'd be nice but a sign-and-traded player has to sign for at least three years. The first year has to be fully guaranteed.

To get Nocioni, the Spurs would have to get pretty inventive. It'd require something like:

-San Antonio receives Andres Nocioni from Chicago
-Chicago receives Matt Bonner from San Antonio
-Golden State receives Thabo Sefolosha from Chicago and Michael Finley plus two second rounders from San Antonio

Finley would have to sign a three-year, $12M contract with the only the first year guaranteed. Golden State would have to actually want Sefolosha (or some other cheap talent on Chicago such as Tyrus Thomas) and be willing to eat the $4M Finley would be due.

The trade would trim around $7M from Chicago's cap and give them room to re-sign Deng. And the Spurs take on the long contract of Nocioni.

Pretty damn unlikely but that's the type of trade it'd take for the Spurs to land Nocioni.

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Andres Nocioni for Matt Bonner? Hell no bad trade for the Bulls.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Before last year, I would have agreed. But last year Nocioni didn't play defense nearly as well as usual. I don't know if he was banged up or just pissed about being on a bad team but his defensive effort wasn't there. Last season, Nocioni's main concern when he entered games was firing up as many shots as possible.

Regarding rebounding, Nocioni is historically better but last year he didn't rebound nearly as well and was pretty much equal to Maggette in that category. Considering Nocioni played a lot of minutes at power forward, I'd say Maggette had a better rebounding year.

They are both sub par passers. Nocioni has never had more assists than turnovers. Maggette has ... but not consistently. I'd say they are about equal in that category.

Three-point shooting I agree.

The Bulls might be prepared to dump Nocioni for nothing. If Golden State offered to eat his contract, I'm not sure whether or not the Bulls would bite. They need money for Deng and Gordon and it seems like Paxson has started to figure out that having 45 small forwards on the roster wasn't the way to make the playoffs.

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If you guys dont remember Andres Nocioni missed 1/4 of the games in 2007 due to a foot injury comming back in the Miami Heat series that same year, perhaps thats what made him worser in 2008

Bulls = Horrible team.

He is from Argentina. He isn't used to that shit.

He is a warrior. He has the toughness of Manu, the tenacity of Bowen, and the killer stare like K Thomas!!!!


David West would have gotten layed the fuck out.

They were a horrible team, not any more buddy

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Originally Posted by Tacker

They were a horrible team, not any more buddy

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That's yet to be seen.

I think he can fit in the team but udoka is much better:toast

How about Nocioni, Herrmann, Javtokas......that would be a very nice offseason indeed

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Originally Posted by Sissiborgo

I think he can fit in the team but udoka is much better:toast

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Udoka> Nocioni? :lmao

Bring Chapu and Delfino and call it an offseason!

do somethin at least!!!

The only reason why Andres Nocioni did bad last year was because his teammates were being assholes no disrespect to them. At times according to inside sources, Nocioni and Joakim Noah, and even Chris Duhon would start fights with some of the Bulls players because they thought the players just gave up on the team. Andres Nocioni is a perfect match for the Spurs, he will stay under your skin and piss the fuck out of you similiar to Bruce Bowen, he can shoot the three very well and best of all HE IS INTERNATIONAL lol.