Don't the Spurs need an athletic PF or C?

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Originally Posted by nil.ball

Scola - Not athletic - probably a worse defender than Oberto

Splitter - Weve still got him
Landry - Gist is bigger and longer
Hayes - Ditto
Batum - SF, probably plays more like a guard
Dorsey - Who will he guard at 6'6"

Take your pick spurs, you could have had them all...

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Oberto did a good job in the regular season against Yao, Howard, Garnett, Okur, Dampier, many guys.

Lamar Odom killed us? When? Two good games of five? C'mon.
Timmy on Gasol and Gasol didn't nothing. Oberto, Horry and Thomas on Lamar and Lamar finished with only two good games in the all serie.
What's the big deal?

Ian is an athletic guy, Oberto is a smart player and knows how play in Pop's systems and Thomas is a pretty good post defender.

If we don't bring a better big, doesn't matter. We didn't lose the playoffs 'cause our bigs were bad or their defense was bad.

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Originally Posted by SRJ

You think that's tiresome; imagine what I go through every time some poster makes this stupid argument.

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Perhaps it wouldn't be so tough, if you bothered to take your head out of the sand.

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Originally Posted by Tully365

In the "How to Rebuild" thread, you proposed signing Brian Skinner to the LLE and Foyle to the minimum-- what made you change your mind?

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Well that was assuming Bonner and Udoka was traded, which is unlikely, and I would still like Skinner if it is possible. Not Foyle though, he's just IR fodder.

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Originally Posted by Bruno

He is a SF.

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Exactly! Isn't Wright at 6'9" precisely what this site has been clamoring for all these years: an athletic long 3. Some reports have him going even longer since his initial draft four years ago.

Now everyone is enamored of a 6'5" swingman who will force us to either play small ball with him at the 3 and Manu at the 2 or alternate him with Manu on the bench so we can't play both at the same time.

Either way we lose Bowen, our defensive stopper. At least Wright would provide some athleticism and height on the wing if Bowen is on the bench.

Oh well, we'll probably lose out on every good FA and settle for some bozo like every other year.

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Originally Posted by nil.ball

Scola
Splitter
Landry
Hayes
Batum
Dorsey

Take your pick spurs, you could have had them all...

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Splitter & Landry were in the same draft, so it was one or the other. Batum wasn't available, he'd already been taken when it was their pick.
I still think the Splitter pick was a good one. The draft always involves risk, especially for picks in the late 20s, and it took the convergence of a poor U.S. dollar, a spike in Euro salaries, a Tau championship, and possibly his sister's illness to make him stay in Spain, which surprised everyone including the FO of the Spurs. Don't you think it's a case of bad luck, not bad planning?

Sounds like you need Darrell Arthur to me. :lol

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Originally Posted by tlongII

Sounds like you need Darrell Arthur to me. :lol

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Too bad he's not a F/C.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Ian is here, as is Gist for the time being. Javtokas may get an offer and I would even take Elson back for the right price, but young scoring help on the wing is far more important right now. I can't believe anyone could have watched the playoffs and decided otherwise.

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Instead of Javtokas or Elson - how possible would it be to get O'Bryant? What do you think his price is this summer?

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Originally Posted by underdawg

Instead of Javtokas or Elson - how possible would it be to get O'Bryant? What do you think his price is this summer?

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I doubt his price is going to be more than the LLE, if that.

I think he is currently at the Celtics mini-camp -- and they obviously have other plans for their MLE.

Here's what you should do, pick an even year, and take Tim Duncan out, and tank the season, like the way you did with Robinson and draft the next generation duncan. You will be set for the next 10 years!

rocketfans are spectacularly ignorant.

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Originally Posted by nil.ball

Here's what you should do, pick an even year, and take Tim Duncan out, and tank the season, like the way you did with Robinson and draft the next generation duncan. You will be set for the next 10 years!

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Rocket fan continues to show their ass.

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Originally Posted by Tully365

I can't wait to see Mahinmi next year and have been impressed by his progress, but I think people are expecting an awful lot from him. It's been very rare in the past few years for a PF or C from the D League to put up big numbers in the NBA. I'd be happy if he contributed 5 pts & 5 rebs a game.

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Mahinmi isn't a d-leaguer, he's an NBA first rounder farmed out for some playing time. There is a difference.

It's also a sad fact of life that big men are overpaid, athletic ones even more so. About the only one I've seen mentioned in this thread that you have a prayer of getting for the LLE is Barron, and he sucks.

Remember, Earl Barron is very young, he has all the physical tools, he's also very cheap. He did show alot of improvement this year. Put him in a winning environment around seasoned veterans to learn from and Pop, he could be very productive.

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Originally Posted by nil.ball

Here's what you should do, pick an even year, and take Tim Duncan out, and tank the season, like the way you did with Robinson and draft the next generation duncan. You will be set for the next 10 years!

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Or we could draft a cornball Center with our top pick and watch him break every bone in his lower body every year but still make it to China for summerball. Then we could sign a overhyped SG/SF who sucks in the clutch and couldn't get out of the 1st round if you gave him a 3-1 lead.....

James Gist

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Originally Posted by nil.ball

Here's what you should do, pick an even year, and take Tim Duncan out, and tank the season, like the way you did with Robinson and draft the next generation duncan. You will be set for the next 10 years!

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i recall that yr. clearly....sometimes you gotta shoot a hostage

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Originally Posted by exstatic

Mahinmi isn't a d-leaguer, he's an NBA first rounder farmed out for some playing time. There is a difference.

It's also a sad fact of life that big men are overpaid, athletic ones even more so. About the only one I've seen mentioned in this thread that you have a prayer of getting for the LLE is Barron, and he sucks.

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Using that logic, would you say Splitter isn't a euro-leaguer, but an NBA first rounder making some extra cash for a few years in Spain? Listen, I like Mahinmi and I am absolutely rooting for him, but I see some posts in this forum saying things like "Mahinmi will be our new D Robinson" or "Mahinmi will dominate" and I just think that those kind of expectations are unfounded at this point. I also see lots of posts saying that Nazr, Rasho, Elson, Horry, and Oberto are the worst players that ever walked the earth, etc., despite the fact that they all helped win championships. And I think it would be a shame if Mahinmi gave the Spurs something perfectly helpful like 18 mpg, 5 pts, 5 rebs next year and people starting saying the same thing about him. That's all I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by nil.ball

Here's what you should do, pick an even year, and take Tim Duncan out, and tank the season, like the way you did with Robinson and draft the next generation duncan. You will be set for the next 10 years!

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A Rockets fan is one to know, considering the fact that it was Rockets process of "tanking games" in during both the '83 & '84, which became the impetus for the creation of the NBA Draft Lottery.

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Perhaps it wouldn't be so tough, if you bothered to take your head out of the sand.

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When I watch, I see Oberto tipping rebounds no one in history could possibly grab. When a defender has inside position on a rebound, it is physically impossible to grab that board without fouling. None of our best rebounders (Duncan, Robinson, Rodman, etc.), at their best, could grab them.

It is flat out ignorant to say that Oberto is tipping rebounds other players could be grabbing. Frankly, back-tapping those rebounds is the only thing a player can do in that situation. But by all means, keep salivating about the idea of Spurs signing some mystery player who can grab the rebounds Oberto cannot.

Mahinmi and hopefully Gist. Gist isn't really a power forward, but if we go small, he's ideal. OR, bring in Mahinmi and sign a young, athletic PF/C with the LLE.

yes i do...spurs need to start looking for a low post scorer who is a decent defender. It is easier finding a wings and guards because there are so many. But the two hardest positions to get a very solid player is the point guard and low post scorer.

i would rather have somebody who can score on the low block and get a block here and there and average about 8 boards...and the spurs should be golden.

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Originally Posted by coachmac87

yes i do...spurs need to start looking for a low post scorer who is a decent defender. It is easier finding a wings and guards because there are so many. But the two hardest positions to get a very solid player is the point guard and low post scorer.

i would rather have somebody who can score on the low block and get a block here and there and average about 8 boards...and the spurs should be golden.

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Patrick O'Bryant