Where would you guys rank Duncan on an All Time list?

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Hayes was the better talent, but if I was looking for a piece to a team, I'd rather have Unseld. Guy was a monster rebounder, among the top 2-3 passing centers when he played, had the best outlet pass in the game (maybe ever), and before he wrecked his knees was a solid defender (even after that he was a pretty crafty one despite being severely undersized).

Imagine if Oberto was about five times the rebounder he is now and twice the defender and that would approximate Unseld.

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:tu

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Originally Posted by Lakers_55

You want the old folks opinions? :)

To be objective and fair about this, it's probably best to wait until his career is over. The NBA had a list of the top 50 players after 50 years, but that was before Duncan was playing. I don't know why they didn't keep adding a player every year. Duncan would be on the list.

After reading this thread, I don't think I saw Julius Erving mentioned. Or Elgin Baylor. Or even Elvin Hayes. I don't think Duncan is better than any of those forwards in their prime.

I don't rate Bill Russell as high as some people do, nor do I put Shaq up there...

My top 10 would be probably....(Yeah, it's mostly older players, but these guys rocked and I did see them all play).

1) Wilt Chamberlain
2) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3) Michael Jordan
4) Magic Johnson
5) Elgin Baylor
6) Oscar Robertson
7) Jerry West
8) Julius Erving
9) Larry Bird
10) Elvin Hayes

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:lol at Hayes/Erving/West/Baylor > Tim Duncan

None of those players belong in the top ten.

Let's see.

1. MJ
2. Wilt
3. Magic
4. Bird
5. Kareem
6. Hakeem
7. Duncan

Ok...top 7.

DD

1) Chamberlain
2) Russell
3) Jordan
4) Jabbar
5) Bird
6) Magic
7) Duncan
8) Robertson
9) O'Neal
10) Irving

1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Abdul-Jabbar
4. Chamberlain
5. Magic
6. Duncan
7. Bird
8. Robertson
9. O'Neal
10. Hakeem

glad most posters agree with me, duncan is definitely somewhere in the 6-10 range.

6 or 7.

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Originally Posted by SScarrJ

Kinda in a debate with some people on his place in history, but its hard to speak about guys like Wilt, Russel, Dr. J, and West since I never really got to see them play. Even then all I've ever seen of f Bird vs Magic is on ESPN Classic and NBA TV, but I at least can that I have actually seen them.

Just curious to see where the older people would rank Duncan

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Behind Olajuwan :downspin:

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Originally Posted by 4cc

if he wins 2 more championships he can join the elite

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cause he is not elite

:rolleyes

dont know bout yall but ive been watching basketball since 73, ive seen to many greats to be able to place duncan anywhere, until he is gone and im almost gone...then and only then will i have an answer for your question

Duncan is ok but he cannot be in the top ten, i put tony parker ahead of him.

Top 5

top 5.

Jordan
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Vince Carter

jk about the VC part. seriously id probably say... its a toss-up between Kareem, Hakeem, or Shaq

#1 PF, But everyone included definately top 5!!

1. Magic Johnson
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Larry Bird
9. Oscar Robertson
10.David Robinson

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Originally Posted by Tacker

Behind Karl Malone.

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Whether this is popular or not Karl was better.

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Originally Posted by slayermin

1. Magic Johnson
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Larry Bird
9. Oscar Robertson
10.David Robinson

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Dave and Tim Are not top ten players. Neither was better than Charles Barkley. If he is not top ten then they are way down the list. Everyone Judges this by championships. That is flawed reasoning. It doesn't ask who won more it asks who was better. If Duncans career was during the Jordan era he wouldn't have won either.

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Originally Posted by Lakers_55

You want the old folks opinions? :)

To be objective and fair about this, it's probably best to wait until his career is over. The NBA had a list of the top 50 players after 50 years, but that was before Duncan was playing. I don't know why they didn't keep adding a player every year. Duncan would be on the list.

After reading this thread, I don't think I saw Julius Erving mentioned. Or Elgin Baylor. Or even Elvin Hayes. I don't think Duncan is better than any of those forwards in their prime.

I don't rate Bill Russell as high as some people do, nor do I put Shaq up there...

My top 10 would be probably....(Yeah, it's mostly older players, but these guys rocked and I did see them all play).

1) Wilt Chamberlain
2) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3) Michael Jordan
4) Magic Johnson
5) Elgin Baylor
6) Oscar Robertson
7) Jerry West
8) Julius Erving
9) Larry Bird
10) Elvin Hayes

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Sure are quite a few Lakers on that list of yours! :lol

I'd say Tim is the greatest power forward and top 10 without a shred of a doubt, probably closer to top 5.

1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Magic
4) Russell
5) Timmy
6) Shaq
7) Bird
8) Hakeem
9) Wilt
10) Isiah Lord

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Dave and Tim Are not top ten players. Neither was better than Charles Barkley. If he is not top ten then they are way down the list. Everyone Judges this by championships. That is flawed reasoning. It doesn't ask who won more it asks who was better. If Duncans career was during the Jordan era he wouldn't have won either.

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So I guess Hakeem shouldnt be top 10 either? He never won shit while Jordan played.

Barkley>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hakeem, right?

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Originally Posted by mardigan

So I guess Hakeem shouldnt be top 10 either? He never won shit while Jordan played.

Barkley>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hakeem, right?

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No but he's better than Duncan.

1. Jordan
2. Chamberlain
3. Abdul-Jabbar
4. Robertson
6. Duncan
7. Magic
8. Baylor
9. Hayes
10. Russell

The more I thought about this I changed some of the rankings.

The most dominate players were the ones that played closer to the basket.

Jordan was an exception that he won without a star center thats why I ranked hinm first.

Robertson was a triple double machine and deserves a top ranking because he did so much for his team.

And Magic was a pg who could play many positions if he had to, a special talent.

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

No but he's better than Duncan.

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:lol
He won less titles with better teams.
But keep telling yourself that.