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Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Maggette knows his career with the Clippers is over unless Brand stuns the league and goes to Golden State. The high-scoring swingman has no shortage of suitors offering him a multi-year deal starting at the midlevel exception, which is expected to approach $6 million for next season, but Maggette hasn't abandoned hope that a team with salary-cap space (Philadelphia or Golden State) will come after him.
The obstacles?
No. 1: Maggette and Sixers restricted free agent Andre Iguodala share the same representative, which could make negotiating deals for two players who play essentially the same position with one team rather complicated for agent Rob Pelinka.
No. 2: There's a strong sense that the Warriors would prefer to chase restricted free agents Josh Smith (Atlanta) and Luol Deng (Chicago) with the money they threw at Brand, although Maggette's status as an unrestricted free agent -- who thus doesn't have to sign an offer sheet that could tie up a team's money for seven days -- makes him easier to pursue.
It's believed that Maggette, without an offer from a team with cap room, favors San Antonio if he has to sign a contract starting at the midlevel. But he has also drawn similar interest from a variety of enticing contenders -- Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando, New Orleans and Utah are the known suitors -- and the Lakers would be a dangerous suitor if they wanted to get involved given Maggette's close relationship with Kobe Bryant. The Lakers, though, would have to abandon any interest in resigning Sasha Vujacic and Ronny Turiaf to sign Maggette, and the team still favors retaining those two key reserves.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/columns...A-notes-080707
A little bit better news considering the last we heard before the weekend was that Golden State would automatically go to Corey Maggette next. If the Warriors try to steal an RFA and what Stein says about Philly is true, perhaps the Spurs still have a shot.
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wow if he bolts to the lakers
spurs should pursue turiaf
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
spurs should pursue turiaf
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
I have a feeling Maggette won't decide til July 16th at the earliest.
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It doesn't matter if Maggette signs with the Spurs or not, Matt Bonner will be our savior in 2009.
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How long will Maggette wait for the Warriors or Sixers to make him an offer?
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I hope a decision comes tomorrow or tonight even.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
MoSpur
I hope a decision comes tomorrow or tonight even.
It better because I'm developing a heart condition...
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
Marcus Bryant
How long will Maggette wait for the Warriors or Sixers to make him an offer?
I'm sure his agent is telling him to wait as long as possible - I just wonder how long teams will wait to address other needs with him on the market.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
Warriors and Sixers are truly the real threats here, but they appear to have competing priorities. All other things being equal, and if the MLE is all he will get, I would think the Spurs are in excellent position. But you never know.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
Today at 9:00 Real GM via ESPN reports Magette is favoring Spurs offer.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
Luke Skywalker
It doesn't matter if Maggette signs with the Spurs or not, Matt Bonner will be our savior in 2009.
did the force tell you that?
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
This is going to drag out past the 9th...probably way past.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
Big P
This is going to drag out past the 9th...probably way past.
At a minimum it should take until GS and Philly have commtitted their money to FAs.
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:tu Our shot still looks bleak, but at least it's less bleak.
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I hope he can decide something before wednesday
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Maybe it's my rose-tinted glasses, but I doubt the Warriors will offer more than 7.5 or 8 million per year for Maggette. That's probably enough to get him, but maybe, just maybe, he looks like an offer like that and says "Damn, it's just like going back to the Clippers, no thanks!"
The reason I think the Warriors will not offer much more is that this year's market value on CM may well be the MLE, or just slightly higher. Mullin is not going to turn that against himself. If could get Maggette and another quality free agent (relative to this class) with the now available Baron Davis money.
As rumors suggest, I see the Warriors trading Harrington for a pg (Hinrich), resigning Ellis and Biedrins, and splitting the Boom Dizzle cash on two worthwhile players--JR Smith for more than MLE and James Jones, or something like that.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
CM is a Spur.
You will all thank me later.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
Maggette cannot do worse than the MLE no matter how long he waits. Thus, he has no incentive to decide any time soon.
So the Spurs' big decison now would seem to be if and when to give Maggette a "timeframe." There are risks either way -- if they raise the issue, Maggette may bolt. If they don't, the Spurs may lose other FA targets.
This is where the front office earns its pay.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
tav1
Maybe it's my rose-tinted glasses, but I doubt the Warriors will offer more than 7.5 or 8 million per year for Maggette. That's probably enough to get him, but maybe, just maybe, he looks like an offer like that and says "Damn, it's just like going back to the Clippers, no thanks!"
The reason I think the Warriors will not offer much more is that this year's market value on CM may well be the MLE, or just slightly higher. Mullin is not going to turn that against himself. If could get Maggette and another quality free agent (relative to this class) with the now available Baron Davis money.
As rumors suggest, I see the Warriors trading Harrington for a pg (Hinrich), resigning Ellis and Biedrins, and splitting the Boom Dizzle cash on two worthwhile players--JR Smith for more than MLE and James Jones, or something like that.
The rumor about Harrington to Chicago, is not going to happen...Chicago has no need for Harrington, with Deng, Gooden, Nocioni, etc....the new rumor today is Chicago wanting to keep Hinrich & trade Gordon..the bottom line is IMO GS is not the team we have to worry about giving Maggs a big offer...its Philly...everything hinges on what they do.
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Originally Posted by
Brutalis
CM is a Spur.
You will all thank me later.
Do you know something you'd like to share?
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
As a longtime Clipper, CM must hate the Lakers.
That's why he should join us, so he'll have a chance to beat the crap out of them.
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The Spurs don't want to go down that road again where the free agent jerks them around and ends up using them as collateral to negotiate with another team...or was that the Astros? Probably has happened to both teams. Anyway, the Spurs need to assume he is not coming and try to address their needs through other means and once they find a viable plan b or c, then they go back to Maggette's agent and tell him that unfortunately they must have an answer withing a given timeframe.
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i honestly dont think the spurs would not wait this long for one guy to make a decision unless they KNOW already that he will sign with them.
if he said "give me time" or "i would like to,but.." i think the spurs would go on to other FA's. since no reports are out that the spurs are seriously seeking other FA's im pretty confident Maggette has told them that he will join the team.
just my opinion
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also look for Manu playing in the olympics. if the spurs "OK" him playing, i suppose the OK would be given,given the fact they know Maggette will be in a Spurs uniform next year.
just my opinion
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I don't see this as a particularly negative piece of news, all things considered.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
also look for Manu playing in the olympics. if the spurs "OK" him playing, i suppose the OK would be given,given the fact they know Maggette will be in a Spurs uniform next year.
just my opinion
nah, the Spurs will make Manu sit out if he isn't healthy enough to play in the Olympics.
Even if Maggette will be with the Spurs, they would still hold Manu out of the Olympics.
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It does not look good for Spurs signing him. He is just going to wait. He can make more money and still sign with a good team. He is in a good position. Free agents suck this year. We are talking about Maggette for crying out loud.
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Originally Posted by
bigdog
nah, the Spurs will make Manu sit out if he isn't healthy enough to play in the Olympics.
Even if Maggette will be with the Spurs, they would still hold Manu out of the Olympics.
i disagree.
if they know for a fact that Maggette will sign with the spurs. they wont mind as much if Manu plays in the olympics.
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Really all it takes is one phone call from Tim Duncan to seal this deal. If Tim recruits Corey, we can snag him. For all we know, he's already done it....
Honestly, I don't fault Maggette for waiting out G.S. and Philly. If G.S. loses Brand (which is probably going to happen), they can certainly throw some of that $$$ his way. Philly is more complicated, since they would have to wait for the Hawks to match their offer to J. Smith, which could take up to 7 days....but if he thinks he's winning a championship in one of those places before winning one in S.A., then good luck!
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
timvp
A little bit better news considering the last we heard before the weekend was that Golden State would automatically go to Corey Maggette next. If the Warriors try to steal an RFA and what Stein says about Philly is true, perhaps the Spurs still have a shot.
That's the thing has never made much sense to me in this story. If you're Golden State or Philadelphia, are you really going to pay huge money to Corey Maggette if you could take the chance on offering a big deal to much younger players like Josh Smith, Emeka Okafor, or Luol Deng? That strikes me as true even if those guys might be longer shots to ultimately sign. I'm not trying to suggest that any will leave their current teams -- it makes more sense for all to stay put -- but if I'm a GM and trying to build a team, I'm more inclined to go above the MLE to get those sorts of guys than I am to get Maggette, who can be pretty fairly lumped in with a group of above average wings and who is among the older players in that group.
I think the calculus is very different for teams like the Spurs and Celtics, for whom the window is closing. Maggette is a very different player for a team looking to extend its opportunity to compete than he would be for a team that is looking to rebuild or reach another level in the middle of the pack.
Certainly, logical basketball fits are not going to be Maggette's primary concern here and I can understand that he's wise to think hard about waiting out the market to see what happens with the RFA's. But looking at this from the perspective of the teams making the offers, does it really make a lot of sense to spend excessively on a guy like Maggette if you're the Sixers or Warriors? Will he really make that much of a difference to those teams? I'd dispute it -- and it sounds like those front offices might be thinking the same way.
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Brand hasn't made his choice for the moment. If Brand decides to leave Clippers, it changes a lot of things for Maggette with re-signing with Clippers or a S&T becoming possibilities.
Once Brand make his choice and if it's re-signing with Clippers, I expect things to go quite fast with Maggette.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
i disagree.
if they know for a fact that Maggette will sign with the spurs. they wont mind as much if Manu plays in the olympics.
I respect your opinion, but I disagree, as I'm sure pretty much everyone else will, too.
Just because the Spurs will have a swingman as good as CM doesn't mean they will just tell Manu "Hey Manu, we don't really care if you play in Beijing anymore, go ahead and risk injuring yourself more, we really don't care."
Manu is still one of the best players on the team, and there's no way you can let one of your stars(who is injured) play any more basketball until he is fully healed.
The Spurs FO will be very cautious. Maggette on the Spurs won't change that one bit.
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Originally Posted by
bigdog
I respect your opinion, but I disagree, as I'm sure pretty much everyone else will, too.
Just because the Spurs will have a swingman as good as CM doesn't mean they will just tell Manu "Hey Manu, we don't really care if you play in Beijing anymore, go ahead and risk injuring yourself more, we really don't care."
Manu is still one of the best players on the team, and there's no way you can let one of your stars(who is injured) play any more basketball until he is fully healed.
The Spurs FO will be very cautious. Maggette on the Spurs won't change that one bit.
Yeah, I don't think you just cavalierly tell one of the 30 or so best players on the planet to just go ahead and risk injury.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
i disagree.
if they know for a fact that Maggette will sign with the spurs. they wont mind as much if Manu plays in the olympics.
They don't know for a fact and probably won't know for days/weeks. I highly doubt a Maggette signing would influence the spurs one way or another on letting Manu play in the olympics anyways. If he's healthy enough, he'll play, if he's not, then he won't. It's that simple. Signing Maggette won't magically make the spurs agree to let an unhealthy Manu play in the olympics.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
Brand hasn't made his choice for the moment. If Brand decides to leave Clippers, it changes a lot of things for Maggette with re-signing with Clippers or a S&T becoming possibilities.
Once Brand make his choice and if it's re-signing with Clippers, I expect things to go quite fast with Maggette.
Sign/trade maybe...but I seriously doubt he resigns with the Clips. Didn't he and Dunleavy have issues?
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
Brand hasn't made his choice for the moment. If Brand decides to leave Clippers, it changes a lot of things for Maggette with re-signing with Clippers or a S&T becoming possibilities.
Once Brand make his choice and if it's re-signing with Clippers, I expect things to go quite fast with Maggette.
Right. Then his agent will press GS and/or Philly to make him an offer. If they balk at it in favor of a RFA then that might be all the Spurs need.
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I'm not as knowledgable as a lot of people on this site so I rely on you guys for a lot of info, so Thanks in adavance.
My question is about the MLE as it pertains to the duration of a contract. So if the MLE is ~5.8 this year is that the highest annual figure that could be in a long term contract, say a 5 year deal? Or can the contract be that for the first year and then escalate to higher salaries in the later years?
I guess if the answer is no, perhaps the sticking point for Maggette is not whether or not to come to SA but it is for how long to sign for and be at the MLE?
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Yet another reason I dislike the offseason. I hate this waiting game bullshit. It sounds like there's hope for the Spurs but until he signs on the dotted line I'm going not going to get my hopes up that we won't get another Splitter style boot to the nuts.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
canadianspursfan
I'm not as knowledgable as a lot of people on this site so I rely on you guys for a lot of info, so Thanks in adavance.
My question is about the MLE as it pertains to the duration of a contract. So if the MLE is ~5.8 this year is that the highest annual figure that could be in a long term contract, say a 5 year deal? Or can the contract be that for the first year and then escalate to higher salaries in the later years?
I guess if the answer is no, perhaps the sticking point for Maggette is not whether or not to come to SA but it is for how long to sign for and be at the MLE?
Marcus Bryant has done some good work in other threads explaining this and the Spurs' ability to give Maggette a competitive contract now with an opportunity to opt-out and get a better deal in a couple of years.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
FromWayDowntown
Certainly, logical basketball fits are not going to be Maggette's primary concern here and I can understand that he's wise to think hard about waiting out the market to see what happens with the RFA's. But looking at this from the perspective of the teams making the offers, does it really make a lot of sense to spend excessively on a guy like Maggette if you're the Sixers or Warriors? Will he really make that much of a difference to those teams? I'd dispute it -- and it sounds like those front offices might be thinking the same way.
Exactly. I bet the Spurs gave Maggette some kind of timeframe based on when Brand makes his decision. I'm not sure Maggette will wait to see how things play out with the Warriors and Sixers with their RFA offers. At some point the MLE destinations he deems to be desirable will go in another direction. Before I forget, there's too much of a focus in the media and in this forum on the fact that a team can offer Maggette the MLE. That's not what he's looking for. He's looking for a team which will have enough cap room in the near future (2 years) to give him a big payday or to sign and trade him to a team that will. I think he will want to become a free agent in the Great LeBron Summer of 2010 when half of the NBA will have max cap flexibility. That scratches Boston, LA, Phoenix, and Detroit off the list. In addition, he will want to join a team that will give him a starting opportunity, minutes, and an opportunity to make an impact. That narrows down the list to the Spurs and the Magic. If Maggette goes to a team that's capped out for the foreseeable future then he's pretty much resigned to playing for the MLE for the rest of his career.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
Marcus Bryant
In addition, he will want to join a team that will give him a starting opportunity, minutes, and an opportunity to make an impact. That narrows down the list to the Spurs and the Magic. If Maggette goes to a team that's capped out for the foreseeable future then he's pretty much resigned to playing for the MLE for the rest of his career.
In simple sales terms, one would think that being somewhere that will give him an opportunity to make a big impact deep in the playoffs would be even more desireable. More than a few guys have made a killing in the free agent market by having big-time success on teams that make deep playoff runs. When it comes to that category, there's no better show in the league than the one playing in San Antonio these days. For Maggette to be the guy who has a chance to put that group over the top again would (one would think) send his value on the free market soaring.
As a Spurs fan, I'm hopeful that Maggette's representation has been thinking about his situation in the sorts of pure economic terms that Marcus and Bruno have been expounding upon for the last week or so. And I'm hopeful that even if Maggette's not approaching this from a pure-basketball fit standpoint, that those who are making decisions in NBA front offices are taking that tack, particularly as what promises to be the NBA's Summer of Love looms a couple of years down the road.
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Though a bit dated, the Spurs can point to DA as a prime example that they will follow through on helping a talented free agent who signs with them at a below market rate get paid. Plus the Spurs have shown that they will pay guys who join the team on smaller deals (ie Ginobili).
If Maggette joined a team without the cap flexibility in 2010 to give him a long-term above MLE deal, then he'd have to stay with them for 3 years until they gained his full Bird Rights (2011). Even then, he'd be dealing with the likelihood that the team is not only capped out but perhaps facing the luxury tax. Plus the number of other teams in the league with cap room may look more like this summer than the summer of 2010. In any event, would that team want to commit to an above average deal with a 32 year old shooting guard? Plus, if they are unwilling due to financial concerns, are they really going to help facilitate a sign and trade?
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If Lakers get their hand on Magette...then we better sign Sasha...but Lakers will become scarier than Fuckin Celtics
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Im getting sick of CM, Im afraid our FO dont even try to contact him at all.....we got no official news but well, u know...
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God, will you just get fucking banned already? Shit.
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you are a rookie you know shit
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Originally Posted by
wisnub
Im getting sick of CM, Im afraid our FO dont even try to contact him at all.....we got no official news but well, u know...
That's a curious take, given that the Spurs have been reported to be actively courting Maggette and that Maggette is truly considering joining the Spurs. Add to that the fact that nothing can happen for another couple of days and I'm not really sure what some want. There is no official news.
Is it realistic to think that Maggette will advise the world of his intentions when the market hasn't yet been established? I wouldn't think so.
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C'mon Corey, take the money and go to a team with cap space. None of this piggybacking a ring bullshit.
If he goes to either San Anton or Boston for the MLE, then that team wins the title.
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Originally Posted by
Findog
If he goes to either San Anton or Boston for the MLE, then that team wins the title.
:tu
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Originally Posted by
wisnub
Im getting sick of CM, Im afraid our FO dont even try to contact him at all.....we got no official news but well, u know...
Do you actively try to be as stupid as you can possibly be?
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"There's a sense..." and "it is believed that" are Stein's way of saying he really has no special inside information about Maggette and is simply offering up possibilities, just like the rest of us. It's just like the draft, where multiple experts assigned about a dozen different names to the Spurs...every single one of which was incorrect.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
The best thing everyone can do is find something else to do for the next 9 days and check back in on the 16th.
The 9th is when FA starts, and when you'll see the RFAs like Smith, Deng, and Childress get their offers. Then their teams will have a week to match, putting us at July 16th.
Nothing is going to happen in FA with the big guns like those three, Maggette, and J.R. Smith, until the issue of cap room for Philly and GS has been answered, and at the earliest that will be the 16th.
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/
good or bad news ?
76ers & Warriors can kill us now...
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
NicolasBatum
I'd say Maggette liking the Spurs' offer is good news.
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Brand Could Make Decision Very Soon
that might speed up some things
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
if Maggette doesnt come to the spurs.....ill club a baby seal
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
if Maggette doesnt come to the spurs.....ill club a baby seal
:lol
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Originally Posted by
NicolasBatum
Good news if only MLE teams are on the board; then sounds like Magette will choose us...
Bad news if either the 76ers or Warriors decide to open their pocketbook for more than 5.8 mil... which sounds like that is what he is kind of holding out for... so will (reluctantly) go with us if he can get no better than MLE.
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under no circumstances should the spurs pursue ronny turiaf.
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angelbelow
under no circumstances should the spurs pursue ronny turiaf.
What if Jack Bauer orders it?
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I can't see a situation in which this doesn't drag on for a while. At the very least I'd say July 16th. But if the Sixers and Warriors keep stabbing at RFAs, he might be talking August.
However, the good news is that Maggette is a major domino in free agency. Once Brand decides where to go, I'd say Maggette is the next big domino. Teams will wait to see where he goes and I think all of free agency will slow down until he decides. Once Maggette decides, then I expect all the other less heralded swingmen to start falling in place. In this scenario, Spurs can afford to wait Maggette out.
The worst case scenario is that Maggette waits and waits while everyone other than the Spurs have moved on from the dream that Maggette can be had for the MLE and then the Sixers or Warriors sign him. If that happens and the Spurs are left picking from like the Jarvis Hayeses of the world, that'd really suck.
Giving a deadline for Maggette to decide is pretty risky and not really something the Spurs are in position to do. Asking a guy who is seriously thinking about taking less than his market value to hurry up and decide isn't very slick. I expect the Spurs to wait patiently as Maggette looks for a big payday and then hope he decides to go with the two-year deal to try again in 2010.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
I agree timvp. This thing is far from over. Check back this time next month on Corey Maggette.
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If Sixers and/or Warriors have made an offer to a restricted free agent on July 9th and if Maggette told Spurs to wait until July 16th, I can see Spurs making an offer to JR Smith on July 9th.
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
If Sixers and/or Warriors have made an offer to a restricted free agent on July 9th and if Maggette told Spurs to wait until July 16th, I can see Spurs making an offer to JR Smith on July 9th.
That would be nice. :tu
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Originally Posted by
Bruno
If Sixers and/or Warriors have made an offer to a restricted free agent on July 9th and if Maggette told Spurs to wait until July 16th, I can see Spurs making an offer to JR Smith on July 9th.
Why would the Spurs do that if Maggette told them to wait until the 16th? :huh
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This is going to be one long, pain in the ass process. Thank God summer league will soon be here to distract us and give us something else to talk about.
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We've focused on the possibility of the Spurs missing out on some other free agents while Maggette decides, but how about Maggette missing out on where he'd want to go for the MLE while the Warriors and Sixers decide? If he ended up signing with a team for the MLE without any cap flexibility in 2010, that would make it much more difficult for him to finally receive that large contract offer. Maybe he could opt out anyways and find another team to give him that large contract. But his sign and trade options would be limited and if he did sign with another team outright then he'd be only eligible for 8% raises.
Maggette has an impetus to get this resolved quickly too.
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
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Originally Posted by
timvp
Why would the Spurs do that if Maggette told them to wait until the 16th? :huh
The more you wait, the less quality FA will be available. If Spurs wait the whole summer that Maggette makes his mind, Spurs could end up with no Maggette and no quality FA available in August.
Spurs really need a SG/SF, they can't afford to stand pat.
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hell yeah. Spurs are not known for staying put waiting for a player
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Originally Posted by
picnroll
This is going to be one long, pain in the ass process. Thank God summer league will soon be here to distract us and give us something else to talk about.
poor baby
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I almost would take jr smith over cm
he is younger
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Originally Posted by
ducks
I almost would take jr smith over cm
he is younger
its debatable.
i personally would sign CM. more experienced,more versatile.
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Maggette is EASILY better than JR Smith..there's no argument..if we can get Mags for the MLE, then you don't even hesitate..
this is good news IMO..
Philly will NOT get Maggette, I'd be absolutely shocked if they did..so really, the only competition seems to be Golden State..now this would be a TERRIBLE signing for the Warriors, because this move isn't a move for the future, and it wouldn't even guarantee them a playoff spot in the West..most Warrior fans I've talked to don't want Maggette neither..but the Warriors have made questionable moves in the past, so it wouldn't surprise me..
the positive is that there's no way Maggette is using us for leverage..the only 2 teams that can offer him more money are Philly and Golden State, and everybody knows that..so there's no way that would work out..
I'm not gonna believe anything until I see it though..
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Re: Stein: Corey Maggette Update
I dont think Maggette is going to wait till the 16th, i think he will make his decision before Wednesday.
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Duncan2177
I dont think Maggette is going to wait till the 16th, i think he will make his decision before Wednesday.
i dont know if it will be before wednesday, but im pretty sure it will be this week
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I agree with Timvp.
CM has no incentive to act quickly, nor should he. His best interest is served in seeing what opportunities may befall him after decisions that other players make.
I don't know if we can get him--but I think the Spurs need to give him room and time to make this decision.
In any negotiation--silence is sometimes strength. Patience can be both a virtue and a hinderance. In this case, I think it is a virtue. Look at the stuff Boston is going through with Posey. They alienated him by mouthing off about CM.
So--like others have stated above--I think we need to find something else to occupy our time as we parse every word in every article to glean some movement on CM.
--BTW--this is a great forum--the people here really crack me up--Spurstalk is as addictive as crack...
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The longer this goes on the worse are chances I think.
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:lol:king:lol:lol:lol
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Avitus1
The longer this goes on the worse are chances I think.
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i would be satisfied with either jr smith or maggette. smith has all star potential. being younger and less experienced is also a plus because he still has time to change his habits and learn defense. maggette is a very powerful short term solution with no risk. if maggette doesn't seem that interested, i'd rather see an offer for jr smith rather than having to wait around for maggette.
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i would be satisfied with either jr smith, pietrus, or maggette. smith has all star potential. being younger and less experienced is also a plus because he still has time to change his habits and learn defense. maggette is a very powerful short term solution with no risk. if maggette doesn't seem that interested, i'd rather see an offer for jr smith rather than having to wait around for maggette.
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djohn14
i would be satisfied with either jr smith, pietrus, or maggette. smith has all star potential. being younger and less experienced is also a plus because he still has time to change his habits and learn defense. maggette is a very powerful short term solution with no risk. if maggette doesn't seem that interested, i'd rather see an offer for jr smith rather than having to wait around for maggette.
smith is young, but he's been in the league for 4 years now, that's plenty of experience, maybe not winning experience, but he is who he is, and while i wouldn't mind having him, he will probably always be a knuckle head
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Originally Posted by
Duncan2177
I dont think Maggette is going to wait till the 16th, i think he will make his decision before Wednesday.
I'm not sure about it coming before Wednesday, but I think it will come this week. His agent will see where things stand with the Warriors and Sixers. If they aren't ready to commit, then he will likely decide to join the Spurs or Magic. Sure, he would like to get paid this summer. He also would like to get paid in the summer of 2010 if he can't get paid this summer. If he waits too long he could very well end up in a less than ideal spot and find himself stuck taking the MLE for the remainder of his career.
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Marcus Bryant
I'm not sure about it coming before Wednesday, but I think it will come this week. His agent will see where things stand with the Warriors and Sixers. If they aren't ready to commit, then he will likely decide to join the Spurs or Magic. Sure, he would like to get paid this summer. He also would like to get paid in the summer of 2010 if he can't get paid this summer. If he waits too long he could very well end up in a less than ideal spot and find himself stuck taking the MLE for the remainder of his career.
There are indeed a lot of positives for both sides if Maggette does choose to wear the silver and black. If Maggette works out here, I don't see any reason the Spurs couldn't up his salary then. However, I'm sure they don't want to make idle promises.
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koopa
smith is young, but he's been in the league for 4 years now, that's plenty of experience, maybe not winning experience, but he is who he is, and while i wouldn't mind having him, he will probably always be a knuckle head
why is he a knucklehead?
he is 22 years old
is he a knucklehead because karl called him out like 2-3 years ago?
people say he is a guy that shots all the time
he fucking averages 9 shot attempts a game
HELLO
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FWIW- Don Harris is reporting that he was informed by his "league sources" earlier today that Maggette could make his decision as early as Wednesday.
He'a also been told that the Spurs have been, and remain atop Maggette's list.
I'm not sure if he knows something we don't, but Harris seems to think the probability of seeing Maggette in the black and silver is getting better and better.
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^Thanks. :tu
All signs point to San Antonio as being Maggette's destination. Hopefully we aren't setup for a letdown.
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I just hope a decision comes that quickly.
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Mr.Bottomtooth
^Thanks. :tu
All signs point to San Antonio as being Maggette's destination. Hopefully we aren't setup for a letdown.
Sincerely,
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/prof...65x90/2630.jpg
LM
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SenorSpur
I just hope a decision comes that quickly.
Preaching to the choir. :lol
I want to stress though that he said could make his decision as early as Wednesday.
The good news is Don Harris actually does have some good sources and has broken news in the past. Hopefully his optimism will be justified.
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Originally Posted by Orlando Sentinel
Otis Smith told the Orlando Sentinel that the Magic are interested in signing Corey Maggette, but aren't optimistic of their chances.
"Is it a long shot?" Smith said. "Uh, yeah."
Smith said the Magic are in the running as long as Maggette can only receive the midlevel exception, which is worth about $6 million per year.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...c_on_maggette/
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Latest from Don Harris-
Maggette has narrowed his choices to S.A. and Boston (according to "league sources") with S.A. being numero uno.
Also, Maggette could make his decision and sign with the Spurs as early as this week.
So I guess that means... Do hold your breath??? :lol
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I refuse to get my hopes up. I refuse to get my hopes up.
Oh! and happy 2,000 posts to me!
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BLACKJACK21
Latest from Don Harris-
Maggette has narrowed his choices to S.A. and Boston (according to "league sources") with S.A. being numero uno.
Also, Maggette could make his decision and sign with the Spurs as early as this week.
So I guess that means... Do hold your breath??? :lol
Don Harris is a very reliable source.
if it really comes down to Boston and SA, my optimism is very high concerning the spurs.
Why play in Boston and get limited minutes, be a role player, and no money guaranteed after a couple years. HAHA...its funny how they look at a 28 year old guy and say "you will be a great role player". maggette is a great player who deserves to be in the starting lineup.
Spurs all the way....
:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:........:lobt2:
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Originally Posted by
BLACKJACK21
Latest from Don Harris-
Maggette has narrowed his choices to S.A. and Boston (according to "league sources") with S.A. being numero uno.
Also, Maggette could make his decision and sign with the Spurs as early as this week.
So I guess that means... Do hold your breath??? :lol
:tu
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so if we sign CM to MLE/2YRS,
what do you expect the spurs to up his salary till if he pans out during those 2 seasons leading up to the 2010 sweepstakes?
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TDMVPDPOY
so if we sign CM to MLE/2YRS,
what do you expect the spurs to up his salary till if he pans out during those 2 seasons leading up to the 2010 sweepstakes?
i dont care about that right now....lets win next year
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xtremesteven33
i dont care about that right now....lets win next year
and in 2010. We need a fucking back to back!
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I think if he wanted to join the spurs he would have come out with it already...I think we are a fall back option....If he doesnt sign on Wed we need to move on to plan b
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spurman20
I think if he wanted to join the spurs he would have come out with it already...I think we are a fall back option....If he doesnt sign on Wed we need to move on to plan b
HUH????????