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Re: Magic To Sign Pietrus
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
....and JR Smith has a high BBIQ and wouldn't drive Pop nuts?
I agree. Smith doesn't play D, doesn't pass or rebound much, has a pretty high turnover rate, has never gotten along with an NBA coach, and couldn't secure a starting position on the Denver Nuggets. Sure, he scores, no doubt. But should the Spurs abandon their entire approach to the game for one undisciplined chronic troublemaker? It seems like some on this forum are intoxicated by his one strength, but unable to even mention any of his shortcomings. For me, the idea of him starting and Manu coming off the bench is practically sacrilege.
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M Pietrus gone now, too
This is the guy I think the spurs should have been courting from the get-go, instead of spaghettimagette. Well, congrats to the magic for having the smarts to grab this guy while he was available. :depressed
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3478921
The Orlando Magic were rumored to be in the mix for free agent Corey Maggette, but it appears they've gone in a different direction.
Pietrus
Florida Today reported on Tuesday that the Magic have reached a verbal agreement with free-agent swingman Mickael Pietrus, who played for the Golden State Warriors last season.
Orlando general manager Otis Smith told the newspaper that the five-year veteran will receive almost all of the Magic's midlevel exception, which starts at $5.2 million next season. The team is expected to sign Pietrus to a multiyear contract on Wednesday.
Besides passing on Maggette, the Magic appear to have closed the door on retaining guard Keyon Dooling, who has played with Orlando the past three seasons.
Smith said that Pietrus' ability to defend opponents' shooting guards sets him apart.
"In the Eastern Conference, you had better be able to defend that position," he said, according to the newspaper. "We think he can really help us do that. And he can shoot the 3."
Pietrus averaged 7.2 points and 3.7 rebounds last season. Those numbers were off his career highs of 11.1 and 4.5 in 2006-07.
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this is yesterdays news....literally
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Pietrus would've been a fine 2nd option and was my choice also. I never thought it possible that the Spurs would've landed Maggette anyway.
The difference between the Magic and the Spurs is that the Magic realized that acquiring Maggette was a long-shot. Consequently, they pulled up stakes earlier this week and started working on their fallback option sooner.
I really believed that the Spurs would've secured their 2nd option (on standby) so they could've moved quickly once the decision came down.
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
Pietrus would've been a fine 2nd option and was my choice also. I never thought it possible that the Spurs would've landed Maggette anyway.
The difference between the Magic and the Spurs is that the Magic realized that acquiring Maggette was a long-shot. Consequently, they pulled up stakes earlier this week and started working on their fallback option sooner.
I really believed that the Spurs would've secured their 2nd option (on standby) so they could've moved quickly once the decision came down.
Good point, Senorspur. If I'm the Magic, I am damn excited to be bringing in Pietrus, and I'm laughing my ass off at the rest of the league falling all over themselves in the Spaghetti-Maggette sweepstakes. :rollin
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Pietrus is dumb as a post, would never have learned the system, and probably would've been another Hedo for us.
PS Where was 2008 Hedo in 2004???
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
Pietrus is dumb as a post, would never have learned the system, and probably would've been another Hedo for us.
PS Where was 2008 Hedo in 2004???
If Turkoglu had been given the chance to grow up with the spurs, they would be reaping the benefits now. Players need some time to grow up.
And I don't care if Pietrus is dumber than a post, his raw talent and athleticism is something you can't teach and that is what the spurs need right now.
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If I'm the Spurs, I would've secured a standby decision from Pietrus, while getting a final decision on Maggette. In fact, they should've kept his ass holding on call waiting. :lol
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
Pietrus is dumb as a post, would never have learned the system, and probably would've been another Hedo for us.
PS Where was 2008 Hedo in 2004???
For everybody that keeps saying how dump Pietrus is, I guess you'd prefer JR Smith, due to his known high BBIQ and on-court genius.
Don't get me wrong, hell I'd take JR Smith right now. I just can't understand all the Pietrus hate, when Smith is just as dumb both on and off the court - especially off - and hasn't attempted to play a lick of defense in his life.
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I'd even take Devin Brown back at this point.. I think the spurs gave up way too quickly on this guy.
I remember him and Turkoglu infusing the spurs with energy off the bench back in 2005. Then *poof* both gone in the next year or so
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
If Turkoglu had been given the chance to grow up with the spurs, they would be reaping the benefits now. Players need some time to grow up.
And I don't care if Pietrus is dumber than a post, his raw talent and athleticism is something you can't teach and that is what the spurs need right now.
Well, you don't know much about what you are talking about then. Sure, we need athleticism, but if the guy can't learn the system Pop won't play him. Ergo, it won't work out and he'll be gone in a year as Hedo was. We need players who are athletic, and smart enough about basketball to get on the court.
Oh, and Hedo was shown the door because it was his 4th season (he had plenty of time to grow up), he choked like a bitch in the playoffs (singlehandedly killed the team), and he never fit the role here. In Orlando he plays as a point-forward and fits the role beautifully. If he had stayed here he never would've blossomed.
Bye Bye.
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
For everybody that keeps saying how dump Pietrus is, I guess you'd prefer JR Smith, due to his known high BBIQ and on-court genius.
Nope, I think JR would be a disaster. Another great talent without a clue, and worse, he's a me-first gunner under pressure.
Aza or Barnes, and Kristic or Williams from the Nets, plus Thomas/Barry, and lets cross our fingers for a healthy big 3 in the playoffs.
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
Well, you don't know much about what you are talking about then. Sure, we need athleticism, but if the guy can't learn the system Pop won't play him. Ergo, it won't work out and he'll be gone in a year as Hedo was. We need players who are athletic, and smart enough about basketball to get on the court.
Oh, and Hedo was shown the door because it was his 4th season (he had plenty of time to grow up), he choked like a bitch in the playoffs (singlehandedly killed the team), and he never fit the role here. In Orlando he plays as a point-forward and fits the role beautifully. If he had stayed here he never would've blossomed.
Bye Bye.
All very true. I couldn't stand that fucker when he was in a Spurs uniform. However, you have to be impressed with how he's developed to where he is now. Recent winner of the NBA's Most Improved Player of the Year award Now, one of the main cogs in Orlando. I guess it takes some players longer to "get it" than others.
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Originally Posted by
RuffnReadyOzStyle
Well, you don't know much about what you are talking about then. Sure, we need athleticism, but if the guy can't learn the system Pop won't play him. Ergo, it won't work out and he'll be gone in a year as Hedo was. We need players who are athletic, and smart enough about basketball to get on the court.
Oh, and Hedo was shown the door because it was his 4th season (he had plenty of time to grow up), he choked like a bitch in the playoffs (singlehandedly killed the team), and he never fit the role here. In Orlando he plays as a point-forward and fits the role beautifully. If he had stayed here he never would've blossomed.
Bye Bye.
'Glu played 1 year in the spurs system. All he did was average 9 pts a game and shoot 42% from downtown. Solid numbers to build from IMO. Just need more time to forge his role furthur.
Bye bye
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See, all the tension in here and people jumping to conclusions is why I decided to stay away from here during silly season this year.
And thus, I'm off again.
I'll be back when FA silly-season is over and everyone has regained their sanity.
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
'Glu played 1 year in the spurs system. All he did was average 9 pts a game and shoot 42% from downtown. Solid numbers to build from IMO. Just need more time to forge his role furthur.
Bye bye
Wanna play that game huh?
I said PLAYOFFS:
7.7pts on 32% and 33% from downtown, including every clutch shot he took in the series recorded a MISS, and 1:1 Assist to TO ratio. He simply did not fit here.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/hidaye...eer_stats.html
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There's a reason Spurs fans call him Hedon't, because Hedidn't in the playoffs when the Spurs needed him to hit A shot.
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Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Having a bad playoff year (ergo "choking like a bitch" as you say) isn't necessarily grounds for immediate dismissal, especially if is his first year on the team. Alot of times, that type of experience can makes a player even more determined to come back stronger, if they have the willpower and determination, which obviously Turkoglu has in spades.
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It's comical how many of the Pietrus bashers -- "he's as dumb as a post" -- are the guys jocking a JR Smith acquisition.
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
And I don't care if Pietrus is dumber than a post, his raw talent and athleticism is something you can't teach and that is what the spurs need right now.
Yep. And as far as Pietrus being benched because he's too dumb to learn Pop's system, that mainly happens with bigs. Nazr, Rasho, Elson -- bad rotations under the basket drive Pop crazy.
"Low IQ" wing players, on the other hand, rarely seem to get benched for "dumbness" -- Jack, Speedy, Derek Anderson, etc.
So it could have been with Pietrus. Pietrus was a major oppotunity lost IMO. Not a great player, just the exact type of player that the Spurs needed right about now.
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Originally Posted by
Russ
Yep. And as far as Pietrus being benched because he's too dumb to learn Pop's system, that mainly happens with bigs. Nazr, Rasho, Elson -- bad rotations under the basket drive Pop crazy.
"Low IQ" wing players, on the other hand, rarely seem to get benched for "dumbness" -- Jack, Speedy, Derek Anderson, etc.
So it could have been with Pietrus. Pietrus was a major oppotunity lost IMO. Not a great player, just the exact type of player that the Spurs needed right about now.
....and a very good, on-the-ball defender, with 3-point range.
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Re: M Pietrus gone now, too
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Originally Posted by
SenorSpur
....and a very good, on-the-ball defender, with 3-point range.
Orlando could potentially be a team that can dethrone the celtics this upcoming year, all they are really lacking now is better point guard than Jameer Nelson, they almost got by the Pistons last year, and now they add Courtney Lee and Michael Pietrus to Howard, Lewis, and Turkoglu. Yikes!~
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Originally Posted by
TJastal
Orlando could potentially be a team that can dethrone the celtics this upcoming year, all they are really lacking now is better point guard than Jameer Nelson, they almost got by the Pistons last year, and now they add Courtney Lee and Michael Pietrus to Howard, Lewis, and Turkoglu. Yikes!~
don't forget to watch out for the sixers too. they now have a legitimate low post threat to go with iggy on the wing with miller at point.
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I'd still like to know the Spurs' level of interest in Pietrus -- whether they had any real talks or made any offers. (Heck, if I was the Spurs I'd still go for him -- top Orlando's offer with the full MLE and bring him in).
