Yahoo: Brand leaning toward signing with Sixers

Damn Baron is probably pissed...

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Originally Posted by GaryJohnston

So what was the point of the Clips signing Baron Davis is they were not going to go hard after Brand?

Fucking supid organization.

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He hasn't signed with them yet...and he still may not...in which case, the Clipps join us in gettting fucked over again.

This is the suck.

Brand is smart. Unless the Clippers could retain Brand, Maggette, AND get Baron they aren't going anywhere in the WC. They'll be a 4-8 seed team at best.

Brand going to Philly makes them one of the elite teams in the EC. He won't have to deal with nearly as much competition.

I wish Stern would fold that fucking organization. Goddamn the fucking Clippers.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Problem is Baron can't get that much money anywhere else.

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He could always do a Boozer and take back his committment and return to GS for more loot, right?

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Originally Posted by timvp

Problem is Baron can't get that much money anywhere else.

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True. I'd imagine Golden State would take him back in a second, though. If he made the announcement early enough the Clips might be able to free up some money to throw at Brand and then Davis could go to Philly. :lol

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

How could the Clippers manage to screw this up? They have two legitimate stars willing to combine together under relatively favorable contract terms and might somehow end the summer with neither -- or least with a lateral move?

Only the Clippers!!!!

Of course, this could all be bluster from Brand's camp; it might be that the Clippers have assumed all along that they wouldn't be Boozered by another Dukie and thought that going all out to get Brand was unnecessary. Given the date, it might conceivably be that Brand's people are floating a story about him thinking seriously about signing with Philly in the hopes that the Clippers will actually renounce Maggette and others to up their offer to Brand. The numbers on the deal with Philly are good, but 5/$70 and 5/$80 is hardly a huge difference -- and neither is what I would have expected Brand to draw in anything resembling an open market.

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The scariest red flag to me is that Carney trade to Minnesota. That looks like a trade that is made only after you get assurances that Brand is coming. Trading away a first rounder makes sense if you can add Brand. Trading away a first rounder when you might have to settle for Maggette is pretty dumb.

That trade makes me think Brand to Philly is legit :(

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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter

Brand is smart. Unless the Clippers could retain Brand, Maggette, AND get Baron they aren't going anywhere in the WC. They'll be a 4-8 seed team at best.

Brand going to Philly makes them one of the elite teams in the EC. He won't have to deal with nearly as much competition.

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Not totally true. I think Kaman could actually become a much better player with B. Davis at point. Then you have the young talent of Thornton, they could be very formidable if Brand returns.

If you were to compare the Sixers and Clippers with Brand, it's pretty much a wash in my opinion except for the fact that the Sixers are in the East (point taken).

So its just up to Brand and what he wants in terms of long term money, what he views as being the best environment to win, and where he feels most comfortable. Tough decision if he indeed is close with B. Davis, but 20+ million is hard to walk away from when you are 29, coming off another injury and just saw your teammate's career (livingston) pretty much go up in flames because of a knee injury.

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Originally Posted by GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI

Don't know how legit this is but

http://www.spursreport.com/forums/sp...ton-brand.html

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Yeah that is the second post in this thread.

And I'm not sure it's been said yet, but Elton Brand is a little bitch if he leaves the Clippers.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Yeah that is the second post in this thread.

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Whoops.. I thought this was the same thread from yesterday.

My question.. with Brand jumping ship... does Baron Davis have a change of heart on the Clippers?

There's something else about the Clipper organization. They will always be the Lakers red-headed step child. They will never be the premiere team in LA. Maybe Brand has just gotten sick of the Clippers and their losing ways, maybe he just wants a fresh start.

Philly really seems like the perfect fit for him. They desperately need a player with his low-post scoring capabilities to complement their bevvy of perimeter players.

I wish Maggette would just be all "Fuck the money I want to win" and just sign with us.

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Originally Posted by GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI

Don't know how legit this is but

http://www.sarsreport.com/forums/spu...ton-brand.html

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Looks like it is. This will be the true test of the Clippers and what CM really wants in this league. Will he go for the moola or the ring?

Even though he might feel a little burned by the Clippers, money sure would make him feel better. And I would assume he would have enough ego to think that he and BDavis could do pretty well with Thornton and Kaman. Not well enough to do any real damage in the West, but enough to be respectable.

What will CM do?

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

And I'm not sure it's been said yet, but Elton Brand is a little bitch if he leaves the Clippers.

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Yeah, it was said moments after the report of him signing with Philadelphia:

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Originally Posted by Donald Sterling

Elton Brand is a little bitch if he leaves the Clippers.

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How much does it really change though? Maggette has always had a choice between money and winning. LA is just GS redux - they are very unlikely to make the playoffs without Brand (and certainly not if Davis changes his mind and refuses to sign). Yes they can offer more money, but his chances of winning are no better.

Didn't they already renounce their rights? If so, the Spurs are in the same position they've been in for a week - the leader in "earn less cash, but get a ring" and the loser in the money game.

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Originally Posted by easjer

How much does it really change though? Maggette has always had a choice between money and winning. LA is just GS redux - they are very unlikely to make the playoffs without Brand (and certainly not if Davis changes his mind and refuses to sign). Yes they can offer more money, but his chances of winning are no better.

Didn't they already renounce their rights? If so, the Spurs are in the same position they've been in for a week - the leader in "earn less cash, but get a ring" and the loser in the money game.

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They have not renounced Maggs rights yet, & they wont if Brand signs elsewhere...If the report is true, then this changes EVERYTHING.

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Originally Posted by easjer

How much does it really change though? Maggette has always had a choice between money and winning. LA is just GS redux - they are very unlikely to make the playoffs without Brand (and certainly not if Davis changes his mind and refuses to sign). Yes they can offer more money, but his chances of winning are no better.

Didn't they already renounce their rights? If so, the Spurs are in the same position they've been in for a week - the leader in "earn less cash, but get a ring" and the loser in the money game.

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The Spurs were basically bidding against one team that could outspend them. There were no sign and trade possibilities. Maggette was going to be forced to accept the MLE if Golden State wouldn't pay him. Now he can be signed and traded, and the whole league gets a shot at overpaying him.

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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter

There's something else about the Clipper organization. They will always be the Lakers red-headed step child. They will never be the premiere team in LA. Maybe Brand has just gotten sick of the Clippers and their losing ways, maybe he just wants a fresh start.

Philly really seems like the perfect fit for him. They desperately need a player with his low-post scoring capabilities to complement their bevvy of perimeter players.

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They were losing because they were paying him millions of dollars to sit on the bench in a suit, and were willing to commit to him despite the fact that he's an unknown quantity coming back from injury. It's kind of funny that Golden State got the ball rolling by just offering him a big contract to fuck with L.A. and now everyone's forgotten about the questions surrounding him because they're too busy joining the bidding war.

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Originally Posted by Big P

They have not renounced Maggs rights yet, & they wont if Brand signs elsewhere...If the report is true, then this changes EVERYTHING.

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This fact seems to be up in the air, I've seen one report saying they did already renounce his rights, and another saying he hasn't been renounced...

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Originally Posted by Big P

They have not renounced Maggs rights yet, & they wont if Brand signs elsewhere...If the report is true, then this changes EVERYTHING.

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No offense, but where did you read that they had not renounced his rights yet. Just asking for clarification.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

This fact seems to be up in the air, I've seen one report saying they did already renounce his rights, and another saying he hasn't been renounced...

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It doesn't matter either way if they have the capspace to bring him back, does it?

They don't really have to renounce any rights until they start signing players. Considering all the possibilities, teams would be stupid to do so before tomorrow.