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This is what the spurs should try to do, since Maggette is gone
Since Maggette is off the board the spurs should try to:
Sign one of these guys- Luol Deng/J.R. Smith/Ricky Davis.
Sign one of these guys- Jarvis Hayes/Carlos Delfino/Matt Barnes/Bostjan Nachbar/Kareem Rush.
Sign one of these guys- Earl Barron/Francisco Elson (Because the spurs need length and athleticism and that's what these guys are, plus they will be real cheap).
Also resign one of these guys and just one: Brent Barry/Michael Finley
Also if the spurs resign Kurt Thomas, trade him or trade Oberto and Bonner for another quality big possibly Nenad Kristic since he's on the market or someone that can contribute.
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I agree if we stick with the same team again we are not going to win a championship, We need to go after some young talent like JR Smith, Ben Gordon, Matt Barnes,Josh Childress or Abuzukie. if i were the spurs i would just throw the whole MLE at one of those players right now why not? What do we got to loose?
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can't afford Luol Deng, J R Smith definitely agree, but throw in Childress and Mason also. Forget Barron and Elson, not worth the trouble, try and trade for someone young, underated and obviously has development potential e.g. David Lee or Sean Williams now that New Jersey is overloaded in his position. Alternatively sign Robertas Javtokas or Gist if he shows potential in the summer league.
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*sigh* a after this season I will respect a quality wing player that can create his own shot
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it wont matter which of the players you have listed above coming here....that wouldnt put us over to the next level...our problem is downlow, we still cant stop noone even if we got a guy who could score night in and night out......our bigs, still excuse my language (suck)....here is our biggest problem after having (besides duncan of course) the worst combo of bigs in the wests top tiers..........our top tier players dont get enough rest...they go off into the countries and play their hearts out while the rest of the nba players kick back(while still staying in shape)...the spurs made a great sword yrs ago, its sides were very sharp and the tip deadly this sword could cut thru any team...now that sword is dull, and the only part of the sword that is meaningful is the tip....FA aint over yet, but i dont see the big we need....i could care less about a wing or point....its our bigs who are horrible and dull....noone wants a dull blade...and that my friends is all we have....enough to make a game of it, a season of it...but next yrs. PO, if we comeback with this same crew, we will get thrown out again.....oh and theses days if in case yall didnt notice.......its hard to get players to play defense...and as the ages pass on...its getting harder and harder to find those players...cory went to g.s. for the money and the time of his life....imagine having fun, having no expectations, playing for a coach the nba thinks is a god, and wont send him away...never having to play defense....GS is like joining a YMCA........alot of fun with alot of players who run and shoot...run and shoot...only the YMCA is paying ya millions..
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Keep Thomas (this is a no-brainer), Barry (NOT Finley), grab Sean Williams and sign Aza preferably, or Barnes.
Not the re-tooling I'd hoped for, but enough for another shot at the trophy.
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Elson???
what the fuck are you smoking?
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Maggette played us along until he got what he wanted [MO $$$] pres. Just wish he hadn't lied about "sometimes you have to sacrifice to win". He should have been honest and said' " I've been a Clipper for 8 years, winning is overrated. Just show me the money & I guarantee the fans a lottery pick every year". That said we should resign Thomas and Barry---they contributed last season. Bringing back Finley as a starter is a death wish. We just need that one player we can plug into the #2 spot so that Manu can be Manu. We need anyone more versatile than Finley--- someone who can drive, run the floor, rebound a little and pass creatively. I know Pop likes Finley's professionalism but he's one dimensional---if his shot isn't falling, which have to come off screens or open looks, he doesn't belong on the floor. The great unanswered question for the Spurs fans is HOW READY IN MAHIMNI TO CONTRIBUTE THIS SEASON. If he's good to go our options in FA become imporved
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Re: This is what the spurs should try to do, since Maggette is gone
What the Spurs should do now?
Acquire Matt Barnes
or
Acquire Smith and Najera from Denver (possible S&T)
or
Pray
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Re: This is what the spurs should try to do, since Maggette is gone
Why wouldn't the Clippers outbid everyone for JR Smith now? They have nothing but cash and a JR/Baron backcourt might sell a few tickets in LA.
This guy has lifelong Clipper written all over him. :)
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Russ
Why wouldn't the Clippers outbid everyone for JR Smith now? They have nothing but cash and a JR/Baron backcourt might sell a few tickets in LA.
This guy has lifelong Clipper written all over him. :)
Reportedly they are chasing after a bigger RFA - and why wouldn't they? I think the combination of Baron and the other Smith would sell a lot more tickets AND make them a MUCH better team.
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The Spurs will probably not mess with any restricted FA and will look at getting an unrestricted one... They will take the safe route so they don't have to wait around and get burned again... they know if they wait too long that anyone good will be gone.
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SPURSGOAT
The Spurs will probably not mess with any restricted FA and will look at getting an unrestricted one... They will take the safe route so they don't have to wait around and get burned again... they know if they wait too long that anyone good will be gone.
The problem is most of the good UFAs have already committed. I would much rather them take a chance on signing J.R. Smith to an offer sheet and re-signing both KT and Barry while they wait.
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I'm still confident that the spurs will make a good move in free agency. I think everyone, myself included got a little too excited about Maggette. When is the last time any NBA player averaged 22.1 ppg and took a MLE contract.
I think Buford and Pop will have prepared as if they were not going to get Maggette. These guys have been around a long time they are smarter than that to just cross their fingers for Maggette. I'm sure they knew the scenario, obviously a no brainer if Magette was willing but that is not the case.
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We just need a tweak and we are back representing the WC. We need to keep a veteran like Barry or Finley, which I pray is Barry. Finley has just really fallen off. We need to also keep Kurt Thomas. I think this will be a more productive year for him as far as gelling with the guys and playing with the team.
Just a couple of young guys to fit in the rotation. A JR Smith, or Abuzukie, Childress, Sean Williams or a Matt Barnes or Najera. You can forget about guys Deng, Gordon. To expensive for us.
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O-Factor
We just need a tweak and we are back representing the WC. We need to keep a veteran like Barry or Finley, which I pray is Barry. Finley has just really fallen off. We need to also keep Kurt Thomas. I think this will be a more productive year for him as far as gelling with the guys and playing with the team.
Just a couple of young guys to fit in the rotation. A JR Smith, or Abuzukie, Childress, Sean Williams or a Matt Barnes or Najera. You can forget about guys Deng, Gordon. To expensive for us.
agreed.
azuibuke and delfino can share MLE....that would be a good pick-up
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xtremesteven33
azuibuke and delfino can share MLE....that would be a good pick-up
Wow :flag: (might be a bit much to ask for though).
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xtremesteven33
agreed.
azuibuke and delfino can share MLE....that would be a good pick-up
We won't be able to get Azuibuke for less than about 4 mil.. and Delfino will take more than what's left to get. Any swingmen left know that they are very valuable right now and will be looking to get paid...
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SPURSGOAT
We won't be able to get Azuibuke for less than about 4 mil.. and Delfino will take more than what's left to get. Any swingmen left know that they are very valuable right now and will be looking to get paid...
azubuike for more than 4 Mil?
i doubt it for that much, but no way, then the warriors can keep him. id rather sign someone else for that much.
Delfino gives me a good feelin being with the spurs. i know his rep with people here on spurstalk but i get a feeling he can be a great player with us. maybe he needs a tough coach with great players around him. i just look at him and see a potentially younger brent barry in him.
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This is the spot we are in for trading almost every first round pick the last 8 yrs....looks like we are gonna be stuck with Barry and Fin.....What the heck would we want James Posey for? Old slow 3 pt shooter, dont we have a buch of those already.....And D Wright from Miami, he will be a good player in a couple years but does nothing for us now.
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Get Posey and Najara. It will address the Spurs weaknesses right off the bat.
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Invest heavily in top-secret time-machine R&D.
I'm thinking D-Rob and Gervin could be of use.
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spurman20
This is the spot we are in for trading almost every first round pick the last 8 yrs....looks like we are gonna be stuck with Barry and Fin.....What the heck would we want James Posey for? Old slow 3 pt shooter, dont we have a buch of those already.....And D Wright from Miami, he will be a good player in a couple years but does nothing for us now.
Letting Scola go was another totally bone-headed move. After ALL those freaking years of waiting.....
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RuffnReadyOzStyle
Keep Thomas (this is a no-brainer), Barry (NOT Finley), grab Sean Williams and sign Aza preferably, or Barnes.
Not the re-tooling I'd hoped for, but enough for another shot at the trophy.
And if Hill and Mahinmi can make respectable bench contributions, I'd have to agree with you. I think the Spurs would have a look at it next year.
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xtremesteven33
agreed.
azuibuke and delfino can share MLE....that would be a good pick-up
At the inflated rate guys are getting paid nowadays, no way the Spurs could get those two so cheaply. I'd be surprised now if they were to get Delfino for the FULL MLE!!
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I liked Pietrus the most, but since he is gone, the spurs should sign Azuibuike to the mid level exception money, he will be worth every penny of that.
Great attitude, great player. He would fit in with the team very well, the nice guy image, but that nice guy image would be shed as soon as he stepped on the court methinks.
Check out this vid of him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI4JV...eature=related
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TJastal
I think you may be right. We could definitely use him. But don't hold your breath.
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I think the spurs have to also seriously consider resigning Kurt Thomas, I really don't see any other bigs out there that can help out as much and he has a year of experience already in the Popovich "D" system.
Getting him back and signing Azuibuike to the mid level exception would be a very successful off season. Maybe sneak in Brent Barry if there's any cash left over after that.
Lineup would consist of
PF/C Duncan, Thomas, Oberto, Mahinmi, Bonner
SF Azuibuike, Udoka, Gist
SG Bowen, Ginobili, Barry
PG Parker, Hill, Vaughn
With this type of lineup Popovich should use Ginobili as a 6th man off the bench for either Bowen or Azuibuike depending on matchups. Mainly this is gonna mean less minutes for Bowen and more of a backup role for Bruce for spot duty defensively. His lost minutes will be Azuibuike's gain. Him and a healthy Ginobili on the floor together should be a good offensive tandem. Add in Hill and Mahinmi off the bench and I can see a 2nd team that is very capable of holding its own, with the purpose in mind to develop younger talent like Azu, Hill, and Mahinmi and also to rest the starters for a potential playoff run. I could even see Gist getting some PT or even Bonner depending on which one is producing more, in a last reserve role.
I think this team, if all healthy, could hold its own in the west.
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Azu isn't worth the full MLE. Split that with another player and I'll be content.
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BacktoBasics
Azu isn't worth the full MLE. Split that with another player and I'll be content.
Perhaps Najera
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SenorSpur
Perhaps Najera
I'm not huge on the guy but I can live with it. I'd sure rather see Barnes if we pursue a hustle player.
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beachwood
Get Azuibuke and Posey.
I like that! Posey wants the full MLE though.
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BacktoBasics
I like that! Posey wants the full MLE though.
Who does he think he is, Beno Udrih?
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Obstructed_View
Who does he think he is, Beno Udrih?
lol Well Posey is a proven winner and probably a top 3 perimeter defender in the league so I could see a contender using their full MLE on the guy.
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BacktoBasics
lol Well Posey is a proven winner and probably a top 3 perimeter defender in the league so I could see a contender using their full MLE on the guy.
I agree that someone might give it to him, hence my joke. Whether or not he's actually worth that remains to be seen. If the Spurs can keep everyone on the roster except Horry and Finley and sign Posey for whatever keeps them under the cap, that's fine with me.
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Oh my god...tightwads around here.... look at how much teams are paying for medicore free agents this year, then look at what Azubuike brings to the table -- he's a young stud with star potential written on him.. he's athletic, he can play a couple positions. Can score.. alot. The FA market is thinning out, he is basically the last hope at obtaining a star quality player swingman.
He is damn well worth the exception.
Posey is in his 30's... if there's any team that needs a young stud its the spurs. Azubuike can be that stud. Posey is not athletic, he's another Bruce Bowen, we already have Bruce Bowen.
Najera is not going to help much with the scoring and also has no athleticism.
Azubuike is clearly the best choice at this point IMO. For the FULL mid level exception if that's what it takes.
