Panic move, gotta do something when you lose your best player and have nothing to show for it.Then can't get best avail. with all new caproom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Patch
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Panic move, gotta do something when you lose your best player and have nothing to show for it.Then can't get best avail. with all new caproom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Patch
Thats exactly the reason The Warriors never ammount to shit.
lewis co-signed
You've got to be kidding.Quote:
In my ideal world, the league would try to rectify the situation by adding some incentive for players to want to win a Championship. You know, something like prize money?
It's a business. Money first, championships second, especially for the younger guys.
If you were a pro and had the Spurs offering you 5.5 million, GS about 8 million, would you really turn down the extra 3 million when you figure you've got this contract plus one more left in your career?
Come on...
LMAO @ Spurs fans.
99.9 of posters here would pick 10mil or whatever it was over a championship. That money can be used for family, friends, etc. Maggot still got plenty of time to get a ship.
I'll change my affiliation to the Lakers right now for a million dollars. I'm not sure why anyone would expect a professional basketball player to be any different. Guys that are willing to do that are the exception not the rule.
Exactly. I would take this a step further to say that Don Nelson is a complete dumb-ass and is only exceeded by Chris Mullin, who obviously is giving Nellie all the toys he wants to play with. The reason these guys are dumb-asses is because they bring all these parts in, without regards as to how they fit together.Quote:
Originally Posted by cant w8 4 2012
I'm all for guys securing their financial futures too, but I do find it funny when someone chooses, let's say, a mediocre team offering 5 yrs/60 mil over a very good team offering 5 yrs/54 mil. There comes a point when you've got more money then you will ever need and your children and grandchildren are set, too. Plus the NBA is one of the few companies in the world where someone making 5 million a year is considered underpaid.
I remember once reading a story about Babe Ruth: after signing a new deal with the Yankees making him the highest paid player in baseball, a reporter asked him: "Babe, do you think it's fair that you make more money than the president of the United States?" Ruth answered: "Well, yes-- I had a better year than he did!" Good answer, huh? This just shows how far sports salaries have come. Now, an average starter in the NBA who has never made the all-star team can easily make more money than the President, the Vice president, his state's governor, his city's mayor, his two senators, and all of his state's house of representatives members... combined.... and his agent will still claim he's underpaid.
This is sort of off topic, but didn't Tim Duncan restructure his contract like a year or two ago, so we could resign Manu, or was it someone else? Regardless, that is an example of a player putting winning over money. How many players would restructure their contracts or alter them for the sake of getting a player to help you win more? I think we may be the only organization in the NBA willing to go that far.
Ignore the little bitch replies. You are right.
Somebody has to say it and you did a nice job. It's the truth, and people will always have issues dealing with it.
Example? See Scola.
wake up. even 60 mil is not enough money for an average NBA player and his family and friends. Exhibit A: Latrell SprewellQuote:
Originally Posted by Tully365
and the example of Duncan giving up some money, or Arenas is irrelevant here. That's a different story, they are already in their teams for years and consider their teamates their family.
Timing and luck play a role in who gets money, see Chris Dudley. It's really hard to blame a guy for taking a lot more money when he has an opportunity. The newspapers would be really boring if every jock said "If the money's the same, I'll always choose the team I think has a better chance of winning."
Thanks, I'm wide awake. Latrell Sprewell is stupid, and could waste any amount of money. Few people are as arrogant as Spree. Lots of players who made much less than him are set for life by investing and using their money wisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
care to name a few?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tully365
and do not list any superstars that got sponsorships...
Hypothetically... in 2000, if the Orlando Magic offered Tim Duncan a max contract and the Spurs counter-offered with a contract that was worth approx. 70% of that contract, would Duncan still have stayed? To a man, I bet most Spurs fans believe that he would because "that's the type of selfless player Timmy is" and "he would do that to ensure the Spurs would maintain a championship level."
But you know what? He didn't have to make that decision because the Spurs matched the offer the Magic would have given him. If they were so sure Tim would have done that, why didn't they sign him for less? Because even these "supposed" selfless players only concerned with winning want to get paid their value as well.
Duncan took a paycut on his extension after he got a max deal. I keep seeing these criticisms of players taking money over winning and the examples of Duncan and Bowen as "different" kinds of people. That's a load of B.S. to me. Duncan got paid. And, even with his paycut, he's still getting PAID. And, then a player like Karl Malone who takes the LLE for a season at the end of his career is "riding the coattails of other superstars." It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And, while some Spurs fans might not want to admit it, the Spurs as an organization is not a sure-fire shot at winning another title with this core group of players. And, they look to decline with the decline of Duncan. Some players might want to not only compete to win, but compete to win over the course of a five year contract, not for one or two more years.
:lol What a fucking joke. You're damned either way? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by JamStone
Geez there is no way to even start picking apart that lame fucking post. Seriously, "Duncan is still getting PAID" :lol:lol irl.
And about your last little spit. We are still in better shape than your Peon's. So fuck off with that dumb shit.
My question is, how bad will Pop wanna beat GS in there first meeting next season? He has gotta be a little ticked off and will wanna get some revenge....
Corey Magette said at first that money didn't matter and that he just wanted to go to a winning team. Well now we know that was a lie since he went to the Warriors who most likely won't make the playoffs again
I think money will be the determining factor. If you want to get the best FA's, I think a teams' players and coaches need to do a lot of public relations work and convince available FA's to come win with them.
Steve Kerr, Mario Elie, Danny Ferry, Terry Porter, Sean Eliot, Bruce Bowen, Brent Barry, Oberto, Rasho, Gregg Popovich.... should I keep going? None of these guys are bankrupt.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Typical response that has nothing to do with what I said. The Piston have been done competing for championships with their core group of players. They were done after the 2005 NBA Finals. I still rooted for them and hoped I was wrong, but I've never claimed the Pistons are world beaters or better than the Spurs. Of course with no real retort, you resort to "my team is better than your team." Get a fucking clue. It isn't about the Pistons competing. I merely said the Spurs were on the deline. Not compared to the Pistons or any other team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutalis
Go do some squats in a cucumber patch.
Duncan is still a top 10 highest paid player in the league this year and next year. You'd think the way some of you talk about this "selfless" player, he was making the MLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutalis
KG restructured his contract and when his extension came around, he took an even bigger paycut than Duncan. Yet Spurs fans still blast him for being the reason the Wolves couldn't put talent around him.
How is winning championships so much more important to Duncan than winning when he still took a max contract? He was already with a championship caliber team. His loyalties weren't tested because he got max money and the team that drafted him was a championship caliber team. If Duncan was drafted by Charlotte and went to the Spurs for the MLE, that would show a commitment to winning over money. He didn't do that. He didn't have to do that. Yet, Spurs fan still kick and scream that other players are selfish and take money over winning, "not like Duncan." It's a bunch of crock. Duncan never had to make that decision.
Duncan did not do anything special, even with his "pay cut" he is making more than Brand will be making with this new Philly deal. What Tim did was way overblown...