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Mason agrees to deal with San Antonio
Roger Mason Jr. has agred to terms of a deal with the San Antonio Spurs. Don't have all the details yet but will shortly. This is not a shocker given the fact that the Spurs liked Mason last summer as well.
Split MLE with Mason and Azubuike hopefully? :hungry:
I hope it's not the LLE, I would still be holding that back for Brent.
Who be dis?
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Originally Posted by Anti.Hero
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98796Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti.Hero
Movement, sweet
Good find. Wonder what the details are.
He is a freaking backup PG.... http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...e?statsId=3628Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti.Hero
But being 6' 5" maybe they intend to use him at the SG spot!?
they probably had to use part of the MLE...
Judging by what people are saying in the comments section of the WPost, he sounds like a Spurs type of guy.
spurs used the flu mle on him the way this fa offseason is going
barry is gone
Yea, they're more than likely gonna switch him to SG.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURSGOAT
Still waiting on that Azubuike announcement. :spin
Youth. I like. If he scores 8 ppg, and Hill scores 6 ppg, the backcourt is in great shape.
:depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Good signing but I'm going to be pissed if we passed over Kelenna for this guy.
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
barry replacement, right?
Finally some movement... now maybe things will start rolling... get Azubuike or Barnes!!!
If its for the LLE this is a great move...If its part of the MLE I hope we can sign azubuike as well.
He has a nice ride:
wait... so barry is gone!? Who is he signing with!?
Of course it does make you wonder... this guy is in the same mold as our draft pick from IUPIWERIUI. Combo guard... I thought Pop said Hill was going to be a contributor?
If this is for the LLE then I'm sad because that means Barry is gone. If it's for a chunk of the MLE and that closes the door on other options (Smith, Azubuike) then I'm going to be pissed.
Yeah-- not one negative word, all the comments praised him for being a classy team player. I especially liked the one that said, "Roger-- I hope you get lots of playing time for those boring ass Spurs..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartleby
I found this youtube of him and his aston martin...I know weird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvGxh1HLw6s
If someone else knows how to imbed that video, then please do.
The other video I found was him talking about his hair. Great.
Good move by the Spurs, but this just about all but concludes that the Spurs have moved on from Barry.
If the Spurs used the LLE on him, it's a damn nice steal. We get younger defensive Brent Barry and we would still have the MLE to spend on an even better swing such as Kelenna or JR.
If the Spurs used the MLE on him, that's pretty risky of them. Mason is a good guy, but this would've just followed this offseason's pattern of overpaying due to lack of overall talent in the market. Hopefully we get Barry back with the LLE if the MLE has been used.
I hope it's for the LLE
We need J.R or Azabuike with the MLE
We're either gonna be sad that we're not bringing back Barry, or gonna be pissed that we signed Mason over Azubuike/Smith. Hopefully just sad.
This kid stuck it out and upped his game. Roger was an excellent college player but was a tweener coming out. Got hurt, as I recall. He has good all-around skills and can make some things happen. I would guess the Spurs signed him for 3 years with the third year as a team option.
Typical Spurs signing....not earth-shatteringly great, but I'm sure it'll turn out to be an effective move.
I fully expect the Spurs to follow with an offer to either Najera or Delfino.
Barry isn't exactly gone, but Mason brings the same thing that Barry brings plus defense, so he's probably gone. And if we signed him for the LLE, then Barry's definitely gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPURSGOAT
Mason isn't a PG or combo guard. He is a SG.
He is quite good role player but if he is Spurs main signing of the summer, it will suck ass.
:tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
He is a good scorer but he can't rebound.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/roger_mason/index.html
Understatement of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
An ok piece for a youth movement (well, he's under 30) as an addition to the bench. Hit a lot of 3s last season at a good clip on a team without that great of a post game. He took a circuitous route to the NBA so he definitely fits the Spurs' role player profile in that regard.
Why does this mean Barry is gone?
Looks like a Finley replacement to me. Mason did a good job filling in for starters last season, now he gets his chance at starting fulltime at SG. If anything we need Barry in that backup role more now with an inexperienced starter.
So we're basically waiting on the terms of the deal to decide whether or not it's a good signing.
For the LLE or min, :tu!
For more then half or the whole MLE, :td!!!
Jeff McDonald: Spurs strike deal with Mason
It didn't take long for the Spurs to move on from Corey Maggette.
According to two league sources, the Spurs have reached an agreement with free-agent guard Roger Mason Jr. that would pay him $7.5 million over two years.
Mason, 27, was a revelation for the Washington Wizards last season, his fourth in the NBA. He averaged 9.1 points off the bench, helping the Wizards overcome injuries to guards Gilbert Arenas and Antonio Daniels and make the playoffs.
News of Mason's impending arrival in San Antonio comes a day after Maggette spurned the Spurs and other suitors to accept a five-year, $50 million deal with Golden State.
This isn't the first time the Spurs have shown interest in Mason. They offered him a three-year contract last summer, but he opted to return to Washington for one more season.
A year later, the Spurs appear to have landed their man.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...nald_s_10.html
ah! yea that makes sense... kinda hope they got him for the LLE... guess we will find out soon enough. At least we got a solid guy to come off the bench...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
tp is the startering pgQuote:
Originally Posted by TeKu
DAMNQuote:
According to two league sources, the Spurs have reached an agreement with free-agent guard Roger Mason Jr. that would pay him $7.5 million over two years.
Crap, that means we only have ~$2M in the MLE left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil
what the hell
Being how we only have ~$2M left in the MLE, we better fuckin find another Ime Udoka deal in this market.
After Barry was great enough to come back to us after the trade last season, AND be one of the only Spurs to gut it out to the death during the WCF, I say he should have the right and support to test the market and get PAID.
this offseason fucking sucks
spurs need to trade for jr smith with their trade exception
get denver below the tax
Yikes....guess they thought the pace of Free Agency was going to continue at a torrid pace and didn't want to lose out on the action.
I like the fact that he agreed to a two-year deal, because it fits the 2010 plan...but it comes at the expense of several other free agents. Based on that dollar figure, I'd say the Spurs will re-sign Thomas and one of the swingmen (Barry or Fin) and be done for the off-season.
His Turnover rate is extremely low-- he averaged 0.8 TO per game, playing just over 20 mpg. Outstanding.
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Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Not exactly my idea of an offseason, but hey we improved a little. That's better than not.
Umm...he was supposed to be the "Ime Udoka" of this off-season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Tully365
Mason has good numbers in the offense end. Like Azabuike.
Azabuike vs Mason
Kelenna Azubuike Golden State Warriors
Position: G-F
Height: 6-5 Weight: 220
College: Kentucky
Player file | Team stats
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 8,5
RPG 4,0
APG 0,9
SPG 0,6
BPG 0,4
FG% 0,445
FT% 0,717
3P% 0,364
MPG 21,4
Roger Mason
Washington Wizards
Position: G
Height: 6-5 Weight: 212
College: Virginia
Player file | Team stats
2007-08 Statistics
PPG 9,1
RPG 1,6
APG 1,7
SPG 0,5
BPG 0,2
FG% 0,443
FT% 0,873
3P% 0,398
MPG 21,4
Wow. I was just getting ready to say McDonald must be thieving his info off of this site. $7.5 million for two years? That is a revelation, and not a good one. I hope he is wrong about the numbers.
CRAP!!! Damn! guess they were forced to use part of the MLE for him since they proably had few options... all the swingmen worth anything will be looking to get paid.
All I remember is him bricking everything in the playoffs.
Well in that case, fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
spurs should have half the mle left
that means they better spend it
Wow, sans the rebounding, they're almost alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil
We only have about $1.9M left.Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
Sucked up most of the MLE. Fucking awesome :pctossQuote:
According to two league sources, the Spurs have reached an agreement with free-agent guard Roger Mason Jr. that would pay him $7.5 million over two years.
For those who see Mason play I have a question.
Can he create his shot and go to the basket or he only scores on Js?
Okay, I'll be the first to say: Come sign with us Kelenna! Forget the money, we can give you a championship!
So Spurs biggest addition of the offseason will be Roger Mason. :depressed
And now we basically have 2 LLEs.
Well I don't think we are better than last year but who knows. We can go without a fourth scorer if our role players step up consistently, ala the Celtics. I wish we would have offered Posey the full MLE instead. He's proven and much more versatile.
Part of the reason I liked Kelenna was his rebounding numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
This guy put about as much effort on the glass last year as Finley did.
I guess other teams thought he was a good value as well, so that drove up his asking price....I think I tallied 5 teams that were interested in him at one point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
I'm scouring the FA list right now to see if there's another FA that the Spurs could possibly get for $2M or the LLE...not sure I see one at this point. I'd like to say Najera would give up some money to come here, but he had one of his better seasons last year....and if Mason can get damn near $4M a year, Najera should be able to.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
i believe we have roughly 2.4 million left of the MLE and 1.9 from the LLE.
I think it's more like 2.1-2.2 million of the MLE left.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
Who was the Celtics' fourth scorer? Didn't they just win the title without one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Good shooter according to last year's stats, a bit undersized at SG but not by much, as others said, he should be able to take on Barry's role.
Now give me Azuibuke as our new starting 2/3 and I will start to feel optimistic about this season.
Guess this means they will really be looking to bring on maybe all 3 of the rooks...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
At least I guess we got a bit younger... but I don't see this being enough to give us a championship... mason, ian, hill, hairston, and gist...
Typical spurs they should of just threw there whole MLE at JR Smith i really doubt that denver would match, Im sure Roger Mason is a decent player but that is a bit much for someone that hasn't proved anything. Typical BS offseason
He won't be signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TJastal
I think this move virtually assures the Spurs bring back Finley for the vet min. He hasn't seen much interest from other clubs and I don't see Udoka or Mason moving into the starting lineup....where Finley has been for the past couple years.
Obviously the Spurs could move Manu back into the starting lineup, but I think Pop honestly likes the matchups and energy he brings off the bench.
Um, they didn't need one. But if you really want to play that game, you could go with Eddie House or Posey.Quote:
Originally Posted by td4mvp21
You're basically buying into the same game plan that Phil Jackson and the like run against us. Make life hell for the big three and see if the nutless role players will step up.
No thanks.
A lot is going to depend on Ian and Hill. A lot.
If we bring back Finley in any role that involves him actually playing more than 5 minutes per game, we're fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
So the Spurs won't be going after a RFA.
Depending on how Mason deal is structured, Spurs have used between $3.6M and $3.9M to sign him. Spurs have between $1.65M and $1.95M left on their MLE.
If the Spurs cannot get rid of Finley, this off-season will be a failure.
I don't care if we sign him for peanuts, he does not deserve the minutes he gets.
Kelena is out now.
I think we'll bring Finley or Barry back and maybe try to get another bargain for the rest of the MLE and call it offseason.
And no real "impact" free agents likely available for that price...which is a problem, because I don't think the Spurs got an "impact" player in Mason for the dollars they spent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
That basically means the Spurs will use their MLE on roster fillers that have a chance to be in the rotation, but likely won't be that coveted "fourth scorer."
:depressed
Season Highs/Career Highs
Points 32 @ Golden State 02/11/08 32 @ Golden State 02/11/08
Field Goals Made 13 @ Golden State 02/11/08 13 @ Golden State 02/11/08
Field Goals Attempted 20 @ Golden State 02/11/08 20 @ Golden State 02/11/08
Three Point Field Goals Made 7 vs. Indiana 04/14/08 7 vs. Indiana 04/14/08
Three Point Field Goals Attempted 10 @ Phoenix 02/10/08 10 @ Phoenix 02/10/08
Free Throws Made 5 3 Times 6 @ New Jersey 02/24/04
Free Throws Attempted 5 5 Times 7 @ New Jersey 02/24/04
Offensive Rebounds 3 vs. Indiana 04/14/08 3 vs. Indiana 04/14/08
Defensive Rebounds 5 3 Times 5 3 Times
Total Rebounds 6 vs. Indiana 04/14/08 6 vs. Indiana 04/14/08
Assists 6 3 Times 6 4 Times
Steals 4 vs. Miami 12/29/07 4 vs. Miami 12/29/07
Blocks 3 vs. Orlando 03/05/08 3 vs. Orlando 03/05/08
Minutes Played 46 @ Charlotte 12/26/07 46 @ Charlotte 12/26/07
SG? Hmmm . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Career shooting percentage -- .405.
List of players I think can be had using "one of our 2" LLEs:
Jeremy Richardson
Tony Allen
Shannon Brown
Antoine Wright
Yakhouba Diawara
Juan Dixon
Jarvis Hayes
Kirk Snyder
Fred Jones
Mickael Gelabale
CJ Miles
Nope. Posey averaged 6 ppg in the playoffs and House averaged less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
I'm not buying into anything. The difference between championship Spurs teams and non-championship Spurs teams have been role players. In '04 no one could hit the broad side of a fucking barn. In '06 it was Duncan, Parker, Manu, and Finley vs. the Mavericks. And last year it was just the Big Three until Manu went down and then it was just Tim and Tony. Like I said, having good role players that are consistent and know how to step up when coaches like Jackson run that strategy against us will compensate for a fourth scorer. Obviously a fourth scorer would be better but it's not happening.Quote:
You're basically buying into the same game plan that Phil Jackson and the like run against us. Make life hell for the big three and see if the nutless role players will step up.
No thanks.
I wonder if they could get a guy like Jarvis Hayes with the leftover money.
The 2010 plan and the safety of signing an UFA are for sure 2 bigs factors of this signing.
If Spurs don't do another significant move, it really sucks. Spurs will be one step behind Lakers and Celtics next year.
Oh and I don't want Finley on this team unless he's soley a bench warmer. Pop better let his little lenient soft spot for Finley go.
Don't forget PJ Brown. He bailed them out more than once in the earlier series in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
For that money Mason is starting at SG surely. Pop isn't paying $3.75m a season for a 3rd string PG/SG. We know Manu will come off the bench at so Mason is starting.
I think so too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeKu
Yay, averages. Who cares? Boston usually had all of Allen, Garnett, and Pierce going in the Finals, and if one of them was off they usually had House or Posey filling the gap.Quote:
Nope. Posey averaged 6 ppg in the playoffs and House averaged less.