After drawing interest from a few top contenders, including the NBA's new champions in Boston, Michael Finley has elected to re-sign with the San Antonio Spurs.
NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Friday that Finley and the Spurs have reached terms on a new deal that has been submitted for league approval.
Michael Finley
Small Forward
San Antonio Spurs
Profile
2008 Season Stats GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
82 10.1 3.1 1.4 .414 .800
Contract specifics were not immediately available, but sources say Finley's decision came down to a choice between staying with the Spurs or joining the Boston Celtics as the reigning champs' replacement for James Posey, who signed with the New Orleans Hornets earlier this summer.
Sources say the two-time All-Star also drew strong interest from the Hornets and Cleveland Cavaliers.
The Spurs, though, were determined to keep Finley, 35, even after signing swingman Roger Mason away from the Washington Wizards last month, with Brent Barry leaving San Antonio's wing rotation to sign with the Houston Rockets.
Heading into his 14th season, Finley joined the Spurs in the summer of 2005 after being waived by the Dallas Mavericks via the league's one-time amnesty provision, which allowed the Mavs to avoid paying a dollar-for-dollar luxury tax on the $51.8 million they owed Finley over the past three seasons.
The Spurs were eliminated by the Mavericks in a memorable second-round series in Finley's first season in San Antonio before winning the championship in 2007 to end Finley's decade-plus chase for a ring.
Finley then started 61 games last season for the Spurs, averaging 10.1 points and shooting 37 percent from 3-point range.
Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here.
08-15-2008
1Parker1
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
U had to see this one coming after Pargo went to Russia....
08-15-2008
urunobili
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
nice! I like Finley as a mentor for Hill/Hairstron
08-15-2008
Mr.Bottomtooth
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
And this offseason comes to a conclusion.
08-15-2008
xtremesteven33
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
"yes its true, im so happy to be stuck with you"
08-15-2008
Walton Buys Off Me
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Gotta be the worst Spurs offseason since we signed Cherokee Parks.
What's next, Buford inks Samaki Walker?
08-15-2008
ducks
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
one year ?
08-15-2008
Texas_Ranger
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
:tu
08-15-2008
sribb43
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Thank you Fin for deciding not to spare the mavs fans to death
08-15-2008
spurs_fan_in_exile
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Should read, "Spurs resign themselves to Finley."
08-15-2008
exstatic
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
:vomit:
08-15-2008
rAm
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
:bang
we are slowww and olddd still.
As long as the big 3 are healthy by the playoffs I still feel we have one of the best, if not the best shot of making it out of the west. That is unless Stern screws us with the playoff schedule.
Oh, and thats assuming we make it through Feb and March :rolleyes
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Who is available next offseason and when is the draft?
08-15-2008
urunobili
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Who is available next offseason and when is the draft?
wow... i thought you'd come up with something like "who's gonna show Mason and Hairstron the system"? :lol
08-15-2008
Spurtacus
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Meh.
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
:lol
Awwww
The Spurs sign a 5th swingman and Spursnation goes into suicide watch.
Typical summer.
08-15-2008
BWS-1994
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Any word on how much and how long?
08-15-2008
lefty
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
So, every time he takes a jump-shot, let's all cross our fingers
08-15-2008
Bruno
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
It could be a very good signing or a disaster depending on what happens this season :
I really like Finley as an end of the bench player. He knows the team, can shoot, has a lot of experience and is quite clutch.
However, if Finley gets a lot of playing time because other Spurs suck or because Pop blindly stick with him, it would be quite a disaster.
08-15-2008
I Love Me Some Me
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I wonder if Fin feels like that guy who gets picked last in a pickup game down at the gym.
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Sounds more like Finley chose the Spurs as opposed to the other way around.
Boston and Cleveland's front offices must be absolutely horrible as well.
08-15-2008
jack sommerset
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Finley must not have gotten any other offers.
08-15-2008
ss1986v2
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by lefty
So, every time he takes a jump-shot, let's all cross our fingers
spurs should be use to this thanks to the "jacque vaughn experience"...
08-15-2008
xtremesteven33
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
hell be a back up to bruce, not ginobili.
mason will either start or back up manu.
any offense is better than bowens offense haha
08-15-2008
Budkin
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I like Finley... maybe he'll snap out of his funk from last year. Maybe.
08-15-2008
JoeChalupa
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I'll wait for the haters when he misses a few shots to start crying and whining.
terrible signing..I'd rather have signed a younger guy..
Finley is absolutely done at this point..he's still a solid set shooter..but he's arguably the worst passer in the NBA for a guard..a horrendous defender..he rarely makes a shot after he takes a dribble..he's done..
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeChalupa
I'll wait for the haters when he misses a few shots to start crying and whining.
Don't have to wait.
They are already here.
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
terrible signing..I'd rather have signed a younger guy..
Finley is absolutely done at this point..he's still a solid set shooter..but he's arguably the worst passer in the NBA for a guard..a horrendous defender..he rarely makes a shot after he takes a dribble..he's done..
Who?
Names please.
08-15-2008
rAm
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
:lol
Can you get Dirk's jank ass head off my screen. Thanks.
08-15-2008
MoSpur
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Once again T-Park defending the front office. What a surprise!
08-15-2008
Mr.Bottomtooth
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Would've preferred someone else, but the rest of the FA market doesn't get so much better than Finley.
08-15-2008
ss1986v2
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
terrible signing..I'd rather have signed a younger guy..
Finley is absolutely done at this point..he's still a solid set shooter..but he's arguably the worst passer in the NBA for a guard..a horrendous defender..he rarely makes a shot after he takes a dribble..he's done..
not that im championing finley or anything, but how so? he has one of the lowest turnover rates of any guard getting 25+ minutes a night. just for the sake of argument, mason averaged more turnovers last season in fewer minutes with assists. so i guess mason is one of the worst passers as well, no?
08-15-2008
mexicanjunior
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Bad move, I would have rather given the minutes to develop a young scorer from the NBDL than bring Finley back to pass up open 3's and dribble into contested shots. Also, his defense and passing will do nothing but hurt this team...so much for getting younger.
08-15-2008
SenorSpur
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoSpur
I hope we follow this up by resigning Robert Horry just to put the cherry on top of a classic off season.
:lol A true, last-minute, desparation, half-court shot by the Spurs.
The success of the Spurs to acquire and sign their targeted offseason player acquisitions has been as subpar as Finley's FG %.
Maggette - No
Mason - Yes
Najera - No
Pargo - No
Finley - Yes (layup)
40%. That's about par for the course.
I'm looking forward to yet another season of Fnley's inconsistent bricking and horrific defense. All the while, the plethora of Finley backers will keep trying to convince us all that "he's just in a slump". Seeing as how the offense went through season-long droughts with Finley in the starting lineup, this was hardly the way to go. However, as long as Mason gets the nod ahead of him, should be low-risk.
08-15-2008
rj215
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Not really a surprise but a bit disappointing. Gotta trust the FO for now since they got us four championships. Plus, like Kori once said he'll be coming back as a 5th SG/SF which isn't too bad I guess.
08-15-2008
Ocotillo
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Small ball power forward signed bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :whine :rollin
08-15-2008
lotr1trekkie
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
We should have resigned Brent--- he has more left in the tank than Fin. Also his skills will be wasted in Oilerland with the arrival of Artest. A coherent conversation between those two---impossibleeeeeeeeeeeee!
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by urunobili
wow... i thought you'd come up with something like "who's gonna show Mason and Hairstron the system"? :lol
Dude...Finley sucks fucking ass.
He's a nutriding, choking, coattaling, whining bitch...who can't hit the fucking side of a barn, spends 99% of his time pouting, and has absolutely no fucking game besides chucking up shitty shots.
This defending champion team was poised to go on a Dynasty run and Michael Finley and his let down karma were what derailed it...all you need to know about how great that team would have been...is htey actually managed to win a championship with Michael Finley on their roster...
That will be the only team, Spurs or otherwise, to accomplish that feat.
So why don't you just say, YAH WE"RE NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR!, because that is the major impact of this signing.
Mavs cut him and we instantly became their bitch while they made the finals...
Figure it the fuck out.
Why in the fuck didn't the Mavs or Boston go after this dude like they said they would.
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by mexicanjunior
Bad move, I would have rather given the minutes to develop a young scorer from the NBDL than bring Finley back to pass up open 3's and dribble into contested shots. Also, his defense and passing will do nothing but hurt this team...so much for getting younger.
Who is this mythical NBDL player?
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by rj215
Not really a surprise but a bit disappointing. Gotta trust the FO for now since they got us four championships. Plus, like Kori once said he'll be coming back as a 5th SG/SF which isn't too bad I guess.
A guy that will see a very small amount of minutes.
08-15-2008
T Park
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoSpur
Once again T-Park defending the front office. What a surprise!
Way to address the question.
08-15-2008
smeagol
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I see a fifth ring in the horizon!
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
:lol A true, last-minute, desparation, half-court shot by the Spurs.
The success of the Spurs to acquire and sign their targeted offseason player acquisitions has been as subpar as Finley's FG %.
Maggette - No
Mason - Yes
Najera - No
Pargo - No
Finley - Yes (layup)
40%. That's about par for the course.
I'm looking forward to yet another season of Fnley's inconsistent bricking and horrific defense. All the while, the plethora of Finley backers will keep trying to convince us all that "he's just in a slump". Seeing as how the offense went through season-long droughts with Finley in the starting lineup, this was hardly the way to go. However, as long as Mason gets the nod ahead of him, should be low-risk.
Waiting on a name....
08-15-2008
Lackluster
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
If he can put up another 10 ppg season and send us into the clutchest of overtimes, all while having a solid handle on the (offensive) system i think it's a good move.
bet he'd light us up on a team like the celts too. that'd suck.
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Hes a 5th swingman for god sakes :lol
08-15-2008
MoSpur
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
T-Park is acting like we owe him a name for some reason. Dude can't accept that signing Finley isn't the best move. Get over yourself T-Park. No one owes you anything. Its very plain and simple, signing Finley is not the best move.
08-15-2008
thispego
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Dude...Finley sucks fucking ass.
He's a nutriding, choking, coattaling, whining bitch...who can't hit the fucking side of a barn, spends 99% of his time pouting, and has absolutely no fucking game besides chucking up shitty shots.
This defending champion team was poised to go on a Dynasty run and Michael Finley and his let down karma were what derailed it...all you need to know about how great that team would have been...is htey actually managed to win a championship with Michael Finley on their roster...
That will be the only team, Spurs or otherwise, to accomplish that feat.
So why don't you just say, YAH WE"RE NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR!, because that is the major impact of this signing.
Mavs cut him and we instantly became their bitch while they made the finals...
Figure it the fuck out.
Why in the fuck didn't the Mavs or Boston go after this dude like they said they would.
:rollin
08-15-2008
SenorSpur
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Waiting on a name....
I'm waiting for you to tell us how the hell Finley makes the Spurs a better team?
08-15-2008
J.T.
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
What do you know, the Lord does answer prayers.
08-15-2008
ss1986v2
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
how is it the worst move if you cant name another that is better? all you chicken littles have me agreeing with t park here. god, i feel dirty...
08-15-2008
AFBlue
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
A decent signing given what's left out there. This is probably the last signficant move they'll make before going into training camp...and at that point it'll be filling out the roster at best.
All things considered, you have to wonder how disappointed the Spurs FO has to be with this off-season...
1) Their key acquisition was a 27yr old guard with one proven year of shooting/scoring.
2) They got spurned by their top pick in 2007 that could've ostensibly come in and immediately contributed.
3) They've let go of Barry but kept Finley and Thomas, leaving them at/near the top of the league for age.
4) Their top draft pick proved he's not ready for the big league.
5) A hobbled Manu is playing in the off-season for his country.
I'm not pointing all of that out to throw egg on their faces because some of it wasn't their fault, but I think even they have to admit this off-season didn't go as they had hoped.
BTW, how did ESPN get the scoop on McDonald and crew with this signing? Rediculous.
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss1986v2
how is it the worst move if you cant name another that is better? all you chicken littles have me agreeing with t park here. god, i feel dirty...
Signing no one would have been better...
I'd feel better about our chances without Finley on this roster...he contributes nothing to championships. Never has, never will.
All he does is miss shots and then pout like a bitch about it....and it becomes all about Finley...
What's wrong with Mike?
C'mom Mike don't be so hard on yoursellf...
IT's all about Mike.
Fuck this dude...get his fucking ass off my roster.
After drawing interest from a few top contenders, including the NBA's new champions in Boston, Michael Finley has elected to re-sign with the San Antonio Spurs.
NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Friday that Finley and the Spurs have reached terms on a new deal that has been submitted for league approval.
Michael Finley
Small Forward
San Antonio Spurs
Profile
2008 Season Stats GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
82 10.1 3.1 1.4 .414 .800
Contract specifics were not immediately available, but sources say Finley's decision came down to a choice between staying with the Spurs or joining the Boston Celtics as the reigning champs' replacement for James Posey, who signed with the New Orleans Hornets earlier this summer.
Sources say the two-time All-Star also drew strong interest from the Hornets and Cleveland Cavaliers.
The Spurs, though, were determined to keep Finley, 35, even after signing swingman Roger Mason away from the Washington Wizards last month, with Brent Barry leaving San Antonio's wing rotation to sign with the Houston Rockets.
Heading into his 14th season, Finley joined the Spurs in the summer of 2005 after being waived by the Dallas Mavericks via the league's one-time amnesty provision, which allowed the Mavs to avoid paying a dollar-for-dollar luxury tax on the $51.8 million they owed Finley over the past three seasons.
The Spurs were eliminated by the Mavericks in a memorable second-round series in Finley's first season in San Antonio before winning the championship in 2007 to end Finley's decade-plus chase for a ring.
Finley then started 61 games last season for the Spurs, averaging 10.1 points and shooting 37 percent from 3-point range.
Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here.
Halloo Hallay O Happy Day!
08-15-2008
50 cent
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
meh.
08-15-2008
HarlemHeat37
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss1986v2
not that im championing finley or anything, but how so? he has one of the lowest turnover rates of any guard getting 25+ minutes a night. just for the sake of argument, mason averaged more turnovers last season in fewer minutes with assists. so i guess mason is one of the worst passers as well, no?
Mason was one of the primary ballhandlers for Washington..most of his minutes came at the PG position, since he was replacing Arenas..his offense relied on isolation a lot of the time as well..
Finley doesn't get isolation plays..most of his shots come off screens and from being open off our big 3, so it's difficult basing his passing ability on stats..I'm basing this on what I've seen..he's the worst entry passer I've ever seen..I can't even remember how many times he threw a terrible entry pass to Tim, and turned it over..
Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Way to address the question.
anybody..at this point I'd rather have guys like Kirk Snyder and Fred Jones over Finley..at least they're athletic and can move..even Gordon Giricek would be an upgrade..
I give Finley credit for what he's good at..he's still a solid set shooter..he's still one of the clutchest shooters in the NBA..but we needed to go younger..I know he isn't going to play a big part, but I'd rather go on potential right now..give some younger guys a try in our system..
08-15-2008
Tully365
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Not surprising. I'd hoped for a better defender, but I really don't think it's a bad move. If Mason & Manu get the majority of the SG minutes and Bowen & Udoka the majority of the SF minutes, I'd guess that Finley will drop to maybe 15-20 mpg and his main focus will be bench scoring, which will at least take the pressure off starting the game and trying to defend the other team's best SG. His shooting efficiency is as good or better than the other rumored options-- Pargo, Dixon, and Devin Brown-types, etc...
At this point, the fate of the Spurs lies in Hill's development and Mason's adjustment.
If Mason and Hill continue to grow as young players, the Spurs look smart. If not, well...
But I do think that this:
Parker/Hill/Vaughn
Mason/Manu/Finley
is better defensively and has greater potential, athleticism, and youth than last year's:
Parker/Vaughn/Washington
Finley/Manu/Barry
(But yeah, I would have preferred Kirk Snyder)
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Yay! We're not going to win a championship this year[/FinleyFans]
08-15-2008
FromWayDowntown
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I have a hunch that Finley starts on Opening Night -- and for most, if not all, of the 2008-09 season.
08-15-2008
ss1986v2
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Finley doesn't get isolation plays..most of his shots come off screens and from being open off our big 3, so it's difficult basing his passing ability on stats..I'm basing this on what I've seen..he's the worst entry passer I've ever seen..I can't even remember how many times he threw a terrible entry pass to Tim, and turned it over..
well, it had to be something less than 56, because thats how many TOs he had last season. compare that to bowen and udoka, who posted 46 TOs and 58 TOs respectively. two guys who saw even less iso than finley did. and im willing to bet that finley had a much higher usage rate than a player like udoka, yet posted better numbers. so udoka must also be one of the worst passing players in the league too.
i think at this point, spurs fans are so sick of finley (and in many ways, rightfully so) that they simply amplify everything bad about him. they remember him making a handful of dreadful entry passes (which he has made), and now hes the worst passer for a guard in the entire league, even though nothing else seems to back this up.
08-15-2008
AFBlue
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
I have a hunch that Finley starts on Opening Night -- and for most, if not all, of the 2008-09 season.
Yes on the first, no on the second...
I think one of Udoka or Mason will supplant him by the end of the season...or they'll just decide to bring Manu back to the starting lineup.
08-15-2008
E20
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I like Findawg. Hopefully he has a great year for the Spurs.
08-15-2008
mexicanjunior
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Who is this mythical NBDL player?
I would have taken a minimum contract flyer on any of the following before resigning Finley...
Shaun Livingston
Gordon Giricek
Sam Cassell
Quinton Ross
Fred Jones
Or, I would have left the roster spot open for anyone lighting it up in the NBDL within the first couple of weeks (like Jeremy Richardson last year). Sorry I don't have the full NBDL roster to give you specific names of who will light it up NEXT SEASON...I haven't completed by time travel machine yet. :rolleyes
08-15-2008
SenorSpur
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown
I have a hunch that Finley starts on Opening Night -- and for most, if not all, of the 2008-09 season.
Would'nt surprise me in the least. If so, expect the scoring droughts to continue with he and Oberto on the court together.
08-15-2008
baseline bum
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
I like Fin, but I hope the team plans to use him as a 10th-12th man. There's no way the team can afford to play Fin major rotation minutes anymore with his defense and streaky shooting.
08-15-2008
mrspurs
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Parker1
U had to see this one coming after Pargo went to Russia....
yep, if ya cant get the better player, you settle on the next best player. has to tell you right away the spurs didnt want finley. with that in mind lets hope finley stays at the end of the bench. with whats on the roster as of now, i dont see finley sitting on the end of the bench, i see finley starting again. only person i see keeping finley on the bench is roger.....so its easy to say our season will depend alot on how roger and ian play. if either one doesnt step in and play solid ball by the allstar break, expect the same team as last. i still think we got better by losing damon, horry, and brent. (they didnt do much but acts as floating devices for a sinking team)....now maybe we can stay afloat a little longer
08-15-2008
mrspurs
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
It could be a very good signing or a disaster depending on what happens this season :
I really like Finley as an end of the bench player. He knows the team, can shoot, has a lot of experience and is quite clutch.
However, if Finley gets a lot of playing time because other Spurs suck or because Pop blindly stick with him, it would be quite a disaster.
100% agreed and i might i add, pop was blind as an old bat last season, his mid-season pickups killed our chances last season, and he hasnt done anything to fix those disasters yet. most of the disasters just had no choice but to leave....it wouldnt surprise me if horry comes back out of retirement sometime during the season, when ian plays like he has been since we picked him up (not nba level) :wow
08-15-2008
lurker23
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
4) Their top draft pick proved he's not ready for the big league.
I understand the potential FO frustration with most of your post, but I'm not sure I get this part. How has Hill proven what he can do, one way or the other? (Spurs FO going after Pargo isn't acceptable as a "sign that they've given up on Hill." We don't know what the Spurs intentions with Pargo were, whether as a PG backup, an insurance policy, or a guard who would get most of his minutes at the 2, and that they would have used a roster spot on instead of Finley. Based on the timing of things, the last one actually seems a possibility.)
08-15-2008
SenorSpur
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I like Fin, but I hope the team plans to use him as a 10th-12th man. There's no way the team can afford to play Fin major rotation minutes anymore with his defense and streaky shooting.
Don't underestimate Pop's man-crush on this guy.
08-15-2008
Anti.Hero
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeChalupa
I'll wait for the haters when he misses a few shots to start crying and whining.
More like when he misses every defensive assignment every time down the court.
Whatever. Same old shit. Literally! haha
08-15-2008
pad300
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Waiting on a name....
All right (in no particular order)
1) Brent Barry
2) Mikael Gelabale
3) Linton Johnson
4) Kirk Snyder
5) Gordan Giricek
6) Quinton Ross
7) Sean Banks
08-15-2008
mrspurs
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
hell be a back up to bruce, not ginobili.
mason will either start or back up manu.
any offense is better than bowens offense haha
i think i take bowens offense over todays finleys offense. finley just plain does nothing for our team but hurt us when he is on the court. if he doesnt make his first shot, we are stuck with him till pop cant stand it anymore, calls a time out does this :bang...... and by the time you look, we are behind by 20 and pop calls it quits and its bring in the scrubs time :lmao
Hopefully, Mason gets Fin's minutes and Fin will now get Brent's minutes (9th man).
08-15-2008
benefactor
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Don't underestimate Pop's man-crush on this guy.
Exactly. I agree with those who say he will be starting at the beginning of the season. I don't doubt that he has something left...thats not the reason I wanted him gone. The biggest reason I didn't want him back is because Pop will be giving him too many minutes...minutes that Mason should be playing. He will be in during the playoffs at a key moment, his man will blow by him for a layup and 1 and down we go again.
The whole thing just gives me a sick feeling.
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
Quote:
Originally Posted by pad300
All right (in no particular order)
1) Brent Barry
2) Mikael Gelabale
3) Linton Johnson
4) Kirk Snyder
5) Gordan Giricek
6) Quinton Ross
7) Sean Banks
:lmao
Linton Johnson?
:lmao
08-15-2008
T Park
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by Solid D
Hopefully, Mason gets Fin's minutes and Fin will now get Brent's minutes (9th man).
More than likely thats how it will be.
Which is fine.
08-15-2008
mrspurs
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by whottt
Dude...Finley sucks fucking ass.
He's a nutriding, choking, coattaling, whining bitch...who can't hit the fucking side of a barn, spends 99% of his time pouting, and has absolutely no fucking game besides chucking up shitty shots.
This defending champion team was poised to go on a Dynasty run and Michael Finley and his let down karma were what derailed it...all you need to know about how great that team would have been...is htey actually managed to win a championship with Michael Finley on their roster...
That will be the only team, Spurs or otherwise, to accomplish that feat.
So why don't you just say, YAH WE"RE NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR!, because that is the major impact of this signing.
Mavs cut him and we instantly became their bitch while they made the finals...
Figure it the fuck out.
Why in the fuck didn't the Mavs or Boston go after this dude like they said they would.
all i can say is...........your weird :lmao welcome to my ignore list finally
08-15-2008
benefactor
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by mrspurs
all i can say is...........your weird :lmao welcome to my ignore list finally
...at least he breaks up his post into paragraphs. I don't know that I have read anything you have posted.
08-15-2008
4everSpurFan
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
omg they didn't... oh well I guess the FO really doesn't want the team to have a good chance and getting back what belongs:lobt2:
I'm NOT even excited about this coming season...eh we'll see what happens!
08-15-2008
Bruno
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
BTW, welcome back Fin. :toast
08-15-2008
vy65
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by T Park
More than likely thats how it will be.
Which is fine.
So you think that Fin is an upgrade over Barry at that 9th slot? You feel confident that Finley can turn in a performance like Brent's in the WCF? If so, I'd love to hear some reasons for your belief.
Or are you too busy fellating Pop/R.C.?
08-15-2008
SpursFanInAustin
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by vy65
So you think that Fin is an upgrade over Barry at that 9th slot? You feel confident that Finley can turn in a performance like Brent's in the WCF? If so, I'd love to hear some reasons for your belief.
Or are you too busy fellating Pop/R.C.?
While people are talking about Barry's performance vs. the Lakers in the WCFs, how quickly people forget that Barry was 0 for the road in the playoffs in 07 while Finley was pretty much money in the playoffs, except for the Finals, which we really didn't need his contribution as the big three dominated.
08-15-2008
benefactor
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by Bruno
BTW, welcome back Fin. :toast
Have him for that? Yes. Have him for extended minutes? No.
Worries about the latter is what is keeping me from embracing this move.
08-15-2008
vy65
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by SpursFanInAustin
While people are talking about Barry's performance vs. the Lakers in the WCFs, how quickly people forget that Barry was 0 for the road in the playoffs in 07 while Finley was pretty much money in the playoffs, except for the Finals, which we really didn't need his contribution as the big three dominated.
Are you serious? You can't be serious. Are you serious?
Here's a little sampling of the poo poo platter fin served this past playoff run:
5/21 @Lal L 89-85 22 0-5
5/27 Lal L 93-91 9 0-2
5/13 @Nor L 101-79 15 1-6
5/15 Nor W 99-80 18 1-6
4/25 @Pho W 115-99 29 2-7
08-15-2008
pad300
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by T Park
:lmao
Linton Johnson?
:lmao
Yeah, I'll give you Johnson can suck, but I'd still sign him over Finley. If only because Pop will actually bench Johnson when he needs it, unlike what he does with Finley.
Yeah, as a reason, that Pop will actually bench them, to sign someone that does suck. But it's still true. It's still be worth doing in that sense. As it stands, and as others have foreseen on this thread, you can just see Pop starting Finley. Particularly in the playoffs. Remember Nick van Excel?
Also, I put 7 names up their off the top of my head. Your turn to put up or shut up. Give me your reasoning why you would sign Finley over each of them. Make the case for Finley over Barry. Finley over Ross. Finley over Johnson. Finley over Snyder. Finley over Gelabale. Finley over Banks. Finley over Giricek. There are other names out there, I am sure. Devin Brown. Bonzi Wells. Hell, Malik Hairston...
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by SpursFanInAustin
While people are talking about Barry's performance vs. the Lakers in the WCFs, how quickly people forget that Barry was 0 for the road in the playoffs in 07 while Finley was pretty much money in the playoffs, except for the Finals, which we really didn't need his contribution as the big three dominated.
If Finley winds up in Barry's role he'll perform worse than Barry did in that role.
In fact Barry beat Finley out the last 2 seasons and the only reason Finley wound up ahead of him was due to injury and the trade...and Finley played much worse in that role than Barry did.
You are talking abotu a guy in Finley that is a strict volume shooter...who only put up decent numbers in his career when he was leading the NBA in minutes played.
Finley's best moments as a Spur were not as good as Barry's best...and his worst moments as a Spur were much worse.
Finley can't do anything but chuck up shots, he is a volume shooter...players like that are never ever good at 9th man roles.
Putting him in a 9th man role is just going to prevent him from getting time to find what shot he has left...so he'll have no value.
It probably is better if you start him, production wise...but it's not going to put the Spurs anywhere near winning a championship.
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by mrspurs
all i can say is...........your weird :lmao welcome to my ignore list finally
And you're a stupid newbie...and I could give two fucks about your ignore list or your opinion.
08-15-2008
vy65
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by whottt
And you're a stupid newbie...and I could give two fucks about your ignore list or your opinion.
I seriously can't tell if you're being ironic/pulling some Andy Kaufman shit, or what -- but in last year's playoffs Bones shot 26/53 or 49%. Fin shot 43 for 107 or barely 40%. That's a bit of a drop, don't ya think?
08-15-2008
mrspurs
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by SenorSpur
Don't underestimate Pop's man-crush on this guy.
i dont think pop(or whoever is in charge of picking up players for the last 3 season) knows whats they are doing anymore.........the spurs are quickly becoming a team noone is scared of anymore and worst of all noone with high roller quailitys even cares about coming here. what is so scary besides the big 3 that would scare good players from coming to the big SA? imo its pop's antics, they are getting as old as the players he coaches, and imo this is how we are sinking so quickly...only old men can be yelled at, it goes thru one of our ears and out the other, and it takes practice. you cant expect to yell at a kid making just as much money if not more then you and expect to get his respect........it just doesnt work like that with todays kids....thats why ive always said tony has got bigger ones then anyone on our roster :king
08-15-2008
whottt
Re: Finley Resigns with Spurs
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Originally Posted by vy65
I seriously can't tell if you're being ironic/pulling some Andy Kaufman shit, or what -- but in last year's playoffs Bones shot 26/53 or 49%. Fin shot 43 for 107 or barely 40%. That's a bit of a drop, don't ya think?
I have no idea what point you are trying to make...would you mind spelling it out for me?