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100% agreed and i might i add, pop was blind as an old bat last season, his mid-season pickups killed our chances last season, and he hasnt done anything to fix those disasters yet. most of the disasters just had no choice but to leave....it wouldnt surprise me if horry comes back out of retirement sometime during the season, when ian plays like he has been since we picked him up (not nba level) :wowQuote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
I understand the potential FO frustration with most of your post, but I'm not sure I get this part. How has Hill proven what he can do, one way or the other? (Spurs FO going after Pargo isn't acceptable as a "sign that they've given up on Hill." We don't know what the Spurs intentions with Pargo were, whether as a PG backup, an insurance policy, or a guard who would get most of his minutes at the 2, and that they would have used a roster spot on instead of Finley. Based on the timing of things, the last one actually seems a possibility.)Quote:
Originally Posted by PHAT TONY
Don't underestimate Pop's man-crush on this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
More like when he misses every defensive assignment every time down the court.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeChalupa
Whatever. Same old shit. Literally! haha
All right (in no particular order)Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
1) Brent Barry
2) Mikael Gelabale
3) Linton Johnson
4) Kirk Snyder
5) Gordan Giricek
6) Quinton Ross
7) Sean Banks
i think i take bowens offense over todays finleys offense. finley just plain does nothing for our team but hurt us when he is on the court. if he doesnt make his first shot, we are stuck with him till pop cant stand it anymore, calls a time out does this :bang...... and by the time you look, we are behind by 20 and pop calls it quits and its bring in the scrubs time :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/...238dc1847c.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
Hopefully, Mason gets Fin's minutes and Fin will now get Brent's minutes (9th man).
Exactly. I agree with those who say he will be starting at the beginning of the season. I don't doubt that he has something left...thats not the reason I wanted him gone. The biggest reason I didn't want him back is because Pop will be giving him too many minutes...minutes that Mason should be playing. He will be in during the playoffs at a key moment, his man will blow by him for a layup and 1 and down we go again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
The whole thing just gives me a sick feeling.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by pad300
Linton Johnson?
:lmao
More than likely thats how it will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
Which is fine.
all i can say is...........your weird :lmao welcome to my ignore list finallyQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
...at least he breaks up his post into paragraphs. I don't know that I have read anything you have posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrspurs
omg they didn't... oh well I guess the FO really doesn't want the team to have a good chance and getting back what belongs:lobt2:
I'm NOT even excited about this coming season...eh we'll see what happens!
BTW, welcome back Fin. :toast
So you think that Fin is an upgrade over Barry at that 9th slot? You feel confident that Finley can turn in a performance like Brent's in the WCF? If so, I'd love to hear some reasons for your belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Or are you too busy fellating Pop/R.C.?
While people are talking about Barry's performance vs. the Lakers in the WCFs, how quickly people forget that Barry was 0 for the road in the playoffs in 07 while Finley was pretty much money in the playoffs, except for the Finals, which we really didn't need his contribution as the big three dominated.Quote:
Originally Posted by vy65
Have him for that? Yes. Have him for extended minutes? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
Worries about the latter is what is keeping me from embracing this move.
Are you serious? You can't be serious. Are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFanInAustin
Here's a little sampling of the poo poo platter fin served this past playoff run:
5/21 @Lal L 89-85 22 0-5
5/27 Lal L 93-91 9 0-2
5/13 @Nor L 101-79 15 1-6
5/15 Nor W 99-80 18 1-6
4/25 @Pho W 115-99 29 2-7
Yeah, I'll give you Johnson can suck, but I'd still sign him over Finley. If only because Pop will actually bench Johnson when he needs it, unlike what he does with Finley.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Yeah, as a reason, that Pop will actually bench them, to sign someone that does suck. But it's still true. It's still be worth doing in that sense. As it stands, and as others have foreseen on this thread, you can just see Pop starting Finley. Particularly in the playoffs. Remember Nick van Excel?
Also, I put 7 names up their off the top of my head. Your turn to put up or shut up. Give me your reasoning why you would sign Finley over each of them. Make the case for Finley over Barry. Finley over Ross. Finley over Johnson. Finley over Snyder. Finley over Gelabale. Finley over Banks. Finley over Giricek. There are other names out there, I am sure. Devin Brown. Bonzi Wells. Hell, Malik Hairston...
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Originally Posted by SpursFanInAustin
If Finley winds up in Barry's role he'll perform worse than Barry did in that role.
In fact Barry beat Finley out the last 2 seasons and the only reason Finley wound up ahead of him was due to injury and the trade...and Finley played much worse in that role than Barry did.
You are talking abotu a guy in Finley that is a strict volume shooter...who only put up decent numbers in his career when he was leading the NBA in minutes played.
Finley's best moments as a Spur were not as good as Barry's best...and his worst moments as a Spur were much worse.
Finley can't do anything but chuck up shots, he is a volume shooter...players like that are never ever good at 9th man roles.
Putting him in a 9th man role is just going to prevent him from getting time to find what shot he has left...so he'll have no value.
It probably is better if you start him, production wise...but it's not going to put the Spurs anywhere near winning a championship.
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Originally Posted by mrspurs
And you're a stupid newbie...and I could give two fucks about your ignore list or your opinion.
I seriously can't tell if you're being ironic/pulling some Andy Kaufman shit, or what -- but in last year's playoffs Bones shot 26/53 or 49%. Fin shot 43 for 107 or barely 40%. That's a bit of a drop, don't ya think?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
i dont think pop(or whoever is in charge of picking up players for the last 3 season) knows whats they are doing anymore.........the spurs are quickly becoming a team noone is scared of anymore and worst of all noone with high roller quailitys even cares about coming here. what is so scary besides the big 3 that would scare good players from coming to the big SA? imo its pop's antics, they are getting as old as the players he coaches, and imo this is how we are sinking so quickly...only old men can be yelled at, it goes thru one of our ears and out the other, and it takes practice. you cant expect to yell at a kid making just as much money if not more then you and expect to get his respect........it just doesnt work like that with todays kids....thats why ive always said tony has got bigger ones then anyone on our roster :kingQuote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
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Originally Posted by vy65
I have no idea what point you are trying to make...would you mind spelling it out for me?