Old Bump: Finley Re-signs with Spurs

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Originally Posted by pad300

Your turn to put up or shut up. Give me your reasoning why you would sign Finley over each of them. Make the case for Finley over Barry. Finley over Ross. Finley over Johnson. Finley over Snyder. Finley over Gelabale. Finley over Banks. Finley over Giricek. There are other names out there, I am sure. Devin Brown. Bonzi Wells. Hell, Malik Hairston...

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I wouldn't count on it, I'm still waiting for his response to the list of names I sent him. I think he kind of pick and chooses his replies... :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

terrible signing..I'd rather have signed a younger guy..

Finley is absolutely done at this point..he's still a solid set shooter..but he's arguably the worst passer in the NBA for a guard..a horrendous defender..he rarely makes a shot after he takes a dribble..he's done..

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Originally Posted by benefactor

...at least he breaks up his post into paragraphs. I don't know that I have read anything you have posted.

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well im hurt.........not, join you buddy whott on my fine ignore list i dont even know ya either :lol

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Originally Posted by whottt

I have no idea what point you are trying to make...would you mind spelling it out for me?

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I would, but the photo of the big black man next to your name is scaring me, so I'll have to decline

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Originally Posted by vy65

I would, but the photo of the big black man next to your name is scaring me, so I'll have to decline

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Probably for the best that you do...

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Originally Posted by whottt

If Finley winds up in Barry's role he'll perform worse than Barry did in that role.

Finley can't do anything but chuck up shots, he is a volume shooter...players like that are never ever good at 9th man roles.

It probably is better if you start him, production wise...but it's not going to put the Spurs anywhere near winning a championship.

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It's because he's a one-trick pony. Has been ever since his knees starting going south. Took a lot of heat in his last 3-4 years as a Mav for being just that. Again, if his shot isn't falling, he's a liability in every sense of the word.

I wish Cuban would've gone after him this summer. It's amazing how much rope Pop gives this guy. Hold your breath folks.

As a 5th wing I don't see any better option.

I hope he play the S.Smith 03 role.

Welcome back Finley

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Originally Posted by whottt

Probably for the best that you do...

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Ooooooo nice condescension on the internet. 5 points for Gryfendor!!

Michael Finley is poised to return for a fourth season in San Antonio.

The Spurs have agreed to terms with the free-agent shooting guard, an NBA source told the Express-News on Friday afternoon.

Details of the finalized deal weren't immediately available, but as recently as last week the Spurs were believed to have offered the 35-year-old Finley a deal starting at the veteran league minimum of $1.3 million.

Finley, the crown jewel of the Spurs' free-agent chase three summers ago, returns with less fanfare than he first arrived. He averaged 10.1 points per game as a part-time starter last season, but could see his role threatened by the arrival of free-agent swingman Roger Mason Jr.

Still, the Spurs always valued Finley's professionalism and leadership, and were eager to bring him back -- especially after losing Brent Barry to Houston last month.

In choosing to re-up with the Spurs, Finley rebuffed a short list of suitors that reportedly included the NBA champion Boston Celtics. He also turned down an offer to play in Europe next season.

It appears the Spurs won't be as lucky when it comes to another of their free-agent targets. Multiple Internet reports indicate that Jannero Pargo, a point guard the Spurs envisioned backing up Tony Parker next season, has agreed to a deal with the Russian team Dynamo Moscow.

According to reports, Pargo will earn at least $3.5 million in Russia next season, more than he was likely to command anywhere in the NBA. The Spurs are believed to have offered Pargo a deal worth $2 million, the maximum they had available.

Pargo's agent, Mark Bartelstein, said Friday afternoon his client had not yet signed on the dotted line for Dynamo Moscow, but suggested it was only a matter of time.

"For me, it's not done until it's done," Bartelstein said. "There are still a few details to work out, and if we work them out, then it will be done."

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...onald_f_1.html

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Originally Posted by Spurs Brazil

Michael Finley is poised to return for a fourth season in San Antonio.

The Spurs have agreed to terms with the free-agent shooting guard, an NBA source told the Express-News on Friday afternoon.

Details of the finalized deal weren't immediately available, but as recently as last week the Spurs were believed to have offered the 35-year-old Finley a deal starting at the veteran league minimum of $1.3 million.

Finley, the crown jewel of the Spurs' free-agent chase three summers ago, returns with less fanfare than he first arrived. He averaged 10.1 points per game as a part-time starter last season, but could see his role threatened by the arrival of free-agent swingman Roger Mason Jr.

Still, the Spurs always valued Finley's professionalism and leadership, and were eager to bring him back -- especially after losing Brent Barry to Houston last month.

In choosing to re-up with the Spurs, Finley rebuffed a short list of suitors that reportedly included the NBA champion Boston Celtics. He also turned down an offer to play in Europe next season.

It appears the Spurs won't be as lucky when it comes to another of their free-agent targets. Multiple Internet reports indicate that Jannero Pargo, a point guard the Spurs envisioned backing up Tony Parker next season, has agreed to a deal with the Russian team Dynamo Moscow.

According to reports, Pargo will earn at least $3.5 million in Russia next season, more than he was likely to command anywhere in the NBA. The Spurs are believed to have offered Pargo a deal worth $2 million, the maximum they had available.

Pargo's agent, Mark Bartelstein, said Friday afternoon his client had not yet signed on the dotted line for Dynamo Moscow, but suggested it was only a matter of time.

"For me, it's not done until it's done," Bartelstein said. "There are still a few details to work out, and if we work them out, then it will be done."

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...onald_f_1.html

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God, I hope this is only a 1-yr deal.

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Originally Posted by mrspurs

well im hurt.........not, join you buddy whott on my fine ignore list i dont even know ya either :lol

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Fine with me. Like I said, its not like I was taking the time to decipher any of your wall o text posts anyway.

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Originally Posted by vy65

Ooooooo nice condescension on the internet. 5 points for Gryfendor!!

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Thanks...I wish I could you give you some points, but unfortunately, being stupid on the internet doesn't count for anything these days.


Someday, you'll realize how stupid you were to direct those Barry comments towards me. Of any and all posters on this forum, I was the absolute worst one to direct them towards if you are trying to prove your self literate...someday, you'll realize that...but unfortunately for you, it'll be too late by then.


RIF. :depressed

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

It's because he's a one-trick pony. Has been ever since his knees starting going south. Took a lot of heat in his last 3-4 years as a Mav for being just that. Again, if his shot isn't falling, he's a liability in every sense of the word.

I wish Cuban would've gone after him this summer. It's amazing how much rope Pop gives this guy. Hold your breath folks.

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On top of that he flat out sucks against LA(and wasn't that great against the Hornets)...and that's who we're going to have to go through.

The only team he's useful against is the Mavs...and they suck now.

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Originally Posted by mexicanjunior

I would have taken a minimum contract flyer on any of the following before resigning Finley...

Shaun Livingston
Gordon Giricek
Sam Cassell
Quinton Ross
Fred Jones

Or, I would have left the roster spot open for anyone lighting it up in the NBDL within the first couple of weeks (like Jeremy Richardson last year). Sorry I don't have the full NBDL roster to give you specific names of who will light it up NEXT SEASON...I haven't completed by time travel machine yet. :rolleyes

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Sam Cassell?

Uh your arguement is for younger and you put him up there?

Livingston has one leg

Giricek would be about the only guy out of that list you'd have an arguement for, but he can't seem to stick anywhere he goes.

so he signs the veterans minimum and the yelling begins :lmao

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Originally Posted by vy65

So you think that Fin is an upgrade over Barry at that 9th slot? You feel confident that Finley can turn in a performance like Brent's in the WCF? If so, I'd love to hear some reasons for your belief.



Or are you too busy fellating Pop/R.C.?

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I don't think he can. I think Barry is better for it, but hes not back so the whole bitching about it is moot and pointless.

shit

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

I'm waiting for you to tell us how the hell Finley makes the Spurs a better team?

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So Michael Finley goes from the 4th to the 5th swingman, Mason > Barry

and this team isn't better? Okiedoke.

Go ahead and swing from the shower curtain sunshine.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Mason was one of the primary ballhandlers for Washington..most of his minutes came at the PG position, since he was replacing Arenas..his offense relied on isolation a lot of the time as well..

Finley doesn't get isolation plays..most of his shots come off screens and from being open off our big 3, so it's difficult basing his passing ability on stats..I'm basing this on what I've seen..he's the worst entry passer I've ever seen..I can't even remember how many times he threw a terrible entry pass to Tim, and turned it over..



anybody..at this point I'd rather have guys like Kirk Snyder and Fred Jones over Finley..at least they're athletic and can move..even Gordon Giricek would be an upgrade..

I give Finley credit for what he's good at..he's still a solid set shooter..he's still one of the clutchest shooters in the NBA..but we needed to go younger..I know he isn't going to play a big part, but I'd rather go on potential right now..give some younger guys a try in our system..

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I agree with the entry passing thing. He rarely had to do that when he was in Dallas. It really bothered me during the playoffs. He will be a good bench player for us. You gotta have trust in Pop. :flag:

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Originally Posted by pad300

Yeah, I'll give you Johnson can suck, but I'd still sign him over Finley. If only because Pop will actually bench Johnson when he needs it, unlike what he does with Finley.

Yeah, as a reason, that Pop will actually bench them, to sign someone that does suck. But it's still true. It's still be worth doing in that sense. As it stands, and as others have foreseen on this thread, you can just see Pop starting Finley. Particularly in the playoffs. Remember Nick van Excel?

Also, I put 7 names up their off the top of my head. Your turn to put up or shut up. Give me your reasoning why you would sign Finley over each of them. Make the case for Finley over Barry. Finley over Ross. Finley over Johnson. Finley over Snyder. Finley over Gelabale. Finley over Banks. Finley over Giricek. There are other names out there, I am sure. Devin Brown. Bonzi Wells. Hell, Malik Hairston...

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I dont remember Van Excel honestly.

Devin Brown is NEVER coming back, his work ethic is beyond horrible. Bonzi Wells is a piece of shit.
Snyder sucks, Johnson sucks worse, Ross is pathetic offensively, Brent Barry because he signed with the Rockets, Marcus Banks? Suns fans hated him, think about that. Malik Hairston is not close to being ready for the NBA.

The only legit one is Giricek, and I have no answer to that one.

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Originally Posted by vy65

Are you serious? You can't be serious. Are you serious?

Here's a little sampling of the poo poo platter fin served this past playoff run:

5/21 @Lal L 89-85 22 0-5
5/27 Lal L 93-91 9 0-2
5/13 @Nor L 101-79 15 1-6
5/15 Nor W 99-80 18 1-6
4/25 @Pho W 115-99 29 2-7

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I guess you didn't read my post very well.....Yeah you're talkin last season. I said 2007 is where Barry didn't even make a basket on the road, and people were kissing Finley's butt, but last year it's the other way around. All I'm saying is make up your minds.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

It's because he's a one-trick pony. Has been ever since his knees starting going south. Took a lot of heat in his last 3-4 years as a Mav for being just that. Again, if his shot isn't falling, he's a liability in every sense of the word.

I wish Cuban would've gone after him this summer. It's amazing how much rope Pop gives this guy. Hold your breath folks.

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Yeah so much rope he hardly played during the Lakers and Hornets series.

But keep up with the generalizations its workin wonders.

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Originally Posted by mexicanjunior

I wouldn't count on it, I'm still waiting for his response to the list of names I sent him. I think he kind of pick and chooses his replies... :rolleyes

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Pardon me that I don't have the time to IMMEDIATELY respond to your every pontification sunshine.

:lol

Who are these mythical younger guys?

Other than the NBDL stiffs that are total retreads that you guys have mentioned?

I like the signing as an end of bench guy and insurance in case of injury. He'll take Barry's role and play limited minutes here and there and probably a few DNP's as well.

I don't see better options out there so I'm fine with it.

His resigning probably has more to do with Pargo not signing than more money or more years from what the Spurs were originally offering.

I would think he would have gotten more minutes elsewhere though.