You cannot make a list like this without including Bruce Bowen.
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You cannot make a list like this without including Bruce Bowen.
Terrible list. Battier is one of those guys like Josh Howard was a couple of years ago where he made so many "Top 5 Underrated" lists that people started overrating him for whatever reason.
Wade and Yao are MVP caliber talents when they are healthy. How much you want to knock on guys who are injured is up to you, but they are guys who will usually give it their all when they are on the floor.
As for Horry, maybe my time here has given me a different opinion from the sports world at large, but it's been a long time since I've seen anyone overrate him. I do remember some people debating whether or not he had a shot at the HOF after his 05 heroics, but that was the closest I've ever seen. He's the very definition of "intangibles".
The lone pick I agree with on that list is Marion. I think a blind squirrel just managed to find a nut on that one.
My List:
1. Shawn Marion
2. Gerald Wallace
3. AK47
4. Josh Howard
5. Ron Artest
Yao has had several opportunities to prove himself in the playoffs and has failed. He's an incredible talent, who's had some very good coaching and talent around him and can't quite get his team to the next level of play. He was so important to Houston that when he was lost for the season, they still won like 13/14 games in a row without him.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs_fan_in_exile
Any team would be lucky to have him, but people make him out to be a top-10 player and he's not. He may put up the stats to be, but he hasn't led his team anywhere. The media hypes him as truly great, but in reality, he's a very good player who doesn't do one single thing great. The fact that he can't stay healthy doesn't even factor in for me. When healthy he's still not the player most make him out to be.
I respect you that you only picking your own team players. Im surpriseed you include gasol there, im my opinion Gasol is the reason why lakers went to Finals. He maybe soft, but he definitely a key success, look at winning percetage before and after he went in. I wont pick LA players coz I live in LA although I didnt like lakers in general, but Lakers is a good team regardless i hate em or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakers_55
I still see Kincks players are overrated and overpaid as well...with that kind of record in less competitive east,looking at their payroll is an amazing thing
It's hard to call role players overrated. I don't agree with that at all. Guys like Battier and Horry are role players or specialists. They do what they are asked to do at a very high level. To overrate them is to say people expect more from them than what they give. I don't think that's the case with either.
My 5 most overrated players in the NBA:
1. Shawn Marion - I put him on the top of my list but I think more and more people, including NBA coaches, players, and GMs already realize that he's not worth his contract and isn't a franchise type player, let alone worth a max contract. He's a perfect third option because he does a lot of things well but cannot create his own shot to be the focus of an offense. I'd take Gerald Wallace at less than 50% the cost.
2. Paul Pierce - Give him all the credit in the world for being the "man" on the team that won the title in June, and for having several outstanding performances in their playoff run. But, now people are talking about him in the same breath as Kobe. No way. He still had several poor showings in the playoffs and wasn't the main factor that made the Celtics climb from a lottery team to a championship team. The previous 2-3 years highlight his inability to carry a team without a great supporting cast, especially with Boston being in the Eastern Conference and still being as shitty as they were the last couple seasons.
3. Michael Redd - He's paid as a max player and considered by many as a borderline superstar. I think he's neither. He'd be an outstanding second or third option on a very good team. But, he cannot carry a team as the main guy. And, he's got no above average skill other than shooting.
4. Chauncey Billups - once a very underrated player, and then he got way overrated. His defense especially is hugely overrated. He doesn't have the the quickness or mindset to push the ball up and he hasn't been that clutch since the 2004 title.
5. Deron Williams - I put him on my list with hesitation because I do think he's a really good, young player. But, I add him on my list because there are more and more people that seem to think he's the best point guard in the league now, better than CP3 and Nash. I don't think he's in their company. I see a kid with a very good skill set and great size and strength for a point guard. But, I also see a kid that excels in a proven system with just the right mix of players around him. I don't think he would play as well or put up the same type of numbers if he wasn't in Sloan's pick-and-roll system. Watching him on Team USA even when it's not fourth quarter garbage time, I see a kid that forces the action too much despite having some of the best basketball players in the world as teammates. I think having a great system and Sloan actually giving him a lot of freedom on offense makes it the best of both worlds for him to put up great numbers. I still think he's overrated.
I'm surprised how many people mentioned Allen Iverson and then say he couldn't do shit with the cast he had the last couple years, as if it has been completely forgotten what he did with Aaron McKie as the second best player on his team, along with Eric Snow, George Lynch, Tyrone Hill, Matt Geiger, and Dikembe Mutombo for less than half a season.
And, while Amare has still yet to really develop his defense, I think it's harsh to call him overrated. That guy put up something like 37 and 15 in a playoff series against Duncan and the Spurs. And, that was before he became really reliable with his midrange jumper. He definitely has flaws and his numbers are helped by Nash and the pick-and-roll for sure. But, I don't think he's one of the top 5 most overrated players in the league.
i agree. and he's so damn cockyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sissiborgo
D howard
he's awesome, but overrated
I think Kidd should definitely be #1 in that list.
Agreed, although he was exposed as over the hill, old and too slow to keep up with younger elite PG's in last years playoffs. Most people don't think of him nearly as highly as they did when he was traded in the middle of last season and expected to be some sort of savior to Dallas.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdictjames
Calling him "overrated" might be a little unfair going into this next season seeing as how no one expects a whole lot from him or Dallas.
#1 R.C Buford
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Originally Posted by kobyz
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"Thats a ALL STAR team and all 5 have a chance to be HOF."
Are you kidding me? Amare Stoudimire in the Hall Of Fame? He is definetly a product of steve nash and would be nothing without nash
Hate all you want, but Amare's numbers are right in line for the Hall of Fame at this point in his career. He was already a 21 ppg / 9 rpg guy as a second year player before he played with Steve Nash.
Ask Kings fans how overrated Robert Horry is. Ask Pistons fans, Suns fans,....
Hell, ask Laker, Rocket and Spurs fans.
RoHo is the man. Anyone who thinks otherwise can suck a last second 3-point clutch ass ding donger.
Stoudemire is a sure-fire HOFer unless his knee blows up. Arenas takes the cake for most overrated player right now. Ewing gets the nod all-time.
dwight howard.
The guy did GOOD vs the raptors with his 20/20 game but come on...the raptors.
He got SAT vs the pistons and seemed helpless.
The guy has no solid post moves and that dunk in the dunk contest wasn't even a fuking
dunk, also don't gimme that bullshit about how he was so high up he threw it in, most of
the players that dunk can throw it in.
Paul Pierce, no one mentioned that guy and he just got spoon fed one of the most talented championship teams ever and he thinks he's a god.
The guy that wrote this article has no knowledge of the NBA whatsoever, and like the guy above me said, he's probably drinking tall glasses of seamen.
Thanks. I was about to fall asleep when I replied and there was no way I could think beyond the players I know the best. I could have considered Luke Walton, a lot of loyal Laker fans dislike him immensely. Inconsistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by wisnub
Yeah, Gasol was a big difference and why we won the west. Now that he has been called out as soft, let's see what he and Bynum can do together.
This I agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamStone
ALL superstars(Even though he is not in the class of Kobe/Lebron, Pierce is still a legit superstar) need a damn good supporting cast to get over that hump. KG showed in Minny that he wasnt fit to be "the man" and also had his share of poor playoff showings to go with average supporting casts. It was and still is not his role. His role is anchoring the D, rebounding, and being a #2 sidekick type of player. This took pressure off of Pierce with not having to carry the team alone but it also helped KG in not having to be the man late in games.Quote:
He still had several poor showings in the playoffs and wasn't the main factor that made the Celtics climb from a lottery team to a championship team.The previous 2-3 years highlight his inability to carry a team without a great supporting cast, especially with Boston being in the Eastern Conference and still being as shitty as they were the last couple seasons.
You cant call the Celts #2 guy(KG) a superstar but call their #1 guy(Pierce) an allstar. Pierce is either the lone superstar, both guys are superstars, or none of them are superstars making them the 2nd team to win a championships without a superstar since the 2004 Pistons.
An overrated player is one who gets a lot of "credit" (or money) but who really does little for the success of the team. So here is my list. none of these guys have been winners in any sort of capacity, which makes me think they are overrated
1. Glibert Arenas
2. Vince Carter
3. Jermaine O'Neal
4. Shawn Marion
5. Rashard Lewis
how can he be overrated..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sissiborgo
if u dont know anythin about the guy, coz u dont know how much exactly he scored durin that famous game..82 or 81?
its 81 buddy.