San Antonio without Manu = No ring.
Manu in any other team = Playoff spot secured.
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San Antonio without Manu = No ring.
Manu in any other team = Playoff spot secured.
I΄ll tell you why Manu΄s unkle got messed up last season,because He had to PLAY INJURIED for 3 weeks when TP was out and TD missed a couple of games. So if your gonna**manu΄s health coze He got messed up playing hurt for SA,your just an ungreatfull SOEB.Quote:
Originally Posted by DespЏrado
Manu΄s unkle didn΄t get messed up first in Beijin,it was in the reg season.
I think most Spurs fans agree that we would have rather seen Manu sit out with his injury and get knocked out of the playoffs than him risk his career. It's easy to say that after the fact, but going in to the playoffs if I were given a choice of Manu missing the playoffs and us losing vs. him ruining his career and us winning the title I would always choose him to sit.Quote:
Originally Posted by diego
thats not our decision to make.
manu chose to play...
...and pop chose to play him.
but of course, the idiot is manu, not pop. pop wanted him to rest... after playing 17 games injured.
but like ive said a billion times... until his career is ruined, this is all moot. no one here can say that, not even Dr. Tpark or Nostraduckus.
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Originally Posted by ArgSpursFan..
Thanks.
I agree it's a little too early to say his career is ruined, but it does bring an uncertainty to his health that will always stay with him. Something you do have to admit is that Pop didn't have the knowledge that the Argentine Team did in making the decision to play Manu. Ultimately that's where the blame lies - it's just like a boxer that wants to keep fighting. It's up to the corner to protect him from his own desire to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by diego
Cool, I'll get your name, address and phone number from your original ISP.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgSpursfan...
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by ArgSpursfan...
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Originally Posted by Martin R
just like aj would never win a title
spurs would never win a title with david robinson
No one knew of the seriousness of the injury until afterwards. It was downplayed buy Pop and by Manu. I was not a member here during the playoffs, but I said many times to many other Spurs fans that he should be benched during the playoffs if he can't go...and someone else who is healthy should take his minutes. As good a coach as Pop is, he was stupid for playing him as much as he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by diego
Doctors in Argentina have already said that he re-injured the same ligament he had injured during the WCF...the same one that would not go down for three weeks after he quit playing. The fact that he played in the playoffs hurt and the Olympics hurt proves he is allowing his competitive juices override his ability to listen to his body. I would not want Manu playing in the playoffs or the Olympics if A. He could not contribute at a high level and B. If he was going to risk serious injury. Neither scenario benefits us or him in the long run.Quote:
Exactly, who needs an MRI or a doctor to determine what his injury is. Its obvious that he was hurt before, during and after the olympics, and the fact that he played the entire playoffs and the olympics injured shows what a selfish, self-centered, spurs hating SOB he really is. if he really cared about the spurs fans, he would protect his health and retire already so no one here would have to worry about him.
Now you are just being silly. None of these scenarios can be compared to Manu. He is a balls out player that has had a serious ankle injury since the Suns series. He has not had adequate rest to heal it...and that is both his(Olympics) and Pops(should have been on the bench during the Lakers series, whether we win or lose) fault. He could wind up with surgery that would put him out until possibly the all star break...and with that sort of recurring ankle injury there is a possibility that he could never come back the same. Would you like Grant Hill's phone number so I can have some one lace you up with some information on it?Quote:
Exactly, like that Duncan guy, he's already had knee surgery and cost us a ship because of it, and if it werent for Nazr Mohammed and Rasho Nesterovic, his plantar fascitis would have cost us a ship in 05 as well. If he misses another 10 games this season with his knee problems, we'll need to replace his old ass. The same with Parker, he is only 26 and has already had several injury problems and missed games. The next spurs player to miss games because of injury should be fired immediately, and if they arent, spurs talk posters should create threads with lopsided trade ideas and aimless bitching to compensate for their continued employment.
What you said here is just wasted keystrokes...because it has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. The point I was getting at was that he should be ready to go right now. He has a 20+ million dollar commitment to fulfill to this team. If he is hurt he should not play...Spurs, Argentina, pickup game, whatever. Injuries happen to many key players on many franchises, but injuries that could be prevented or worsened because they were not allowed to heal properly should never happen...even it costs you a title, or a gold medal.Quote:
Because everyone knows, the only team in the entire history of the NBA to have injury problems affect them and their cap situations is the san antonio spurs. its completely unfair how other teams never have to deal with this. While we're at it, we should fire pop, RC, and the entire coaching staff for not predicting when an injury will occur, and how much a player will produce. a minimum turnaround of 2ppg or 2reb per $1Million salary should be set. Its absolutely inexcusable that a small market team, over the cap, doesnt win the championship every year. Its not like there is any competition or luck involved.
Hmmm I know this may sound left field but do you think Manu is faking the injury?
I dont think so - Gold to him is far more important than NBA title. He was warned that playing on it could cause further injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobbs
Needs to keep his ass in a lawn chair till Late october and hopefully he will be Ok by early season. If Mason plays well and we can get something out of Hill and Fin Udoka, I tell Manu to ride the pine till mid season.
If he comes back to early, we could have another playoffs of manu the gimp!
No chance. Did you see him in the bronze medal game? The guy wanted so much to play. If he had faked it against US, he would've played against Lithuania and to hell with public opinion. But that's not Manu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobbs
the fact of the matter is that right now, duncan has had more serious injuries than manu has, and he is still playing. does manu rely on his athleticism more than duncan? yes, no question. but its not like manu is the first basketball player to twist his ankle and swell the ligaments. if he had to have knee surgery or bone problems it would be far more serious.
as for grant hill, you should check to see if you even have his phone number. Hill had a bone bruise then played on it a couple weeks later (with the approval of the Pistons' medical staff), which caused him to BREAK his ankle.
Bone. Break.
Not the same at all, is it?
I'm sure some of the resident Pistons fans can confirm this for you, since apparently all you know is that Hill aggravated some kind of ankle injury.
I only brought up that it might be fake because Manu knew they had no shot vs the US. So he got out the game pretty early. Kobe was guaring him so he would have to work extra hard on offense and really hurt himself more. Maybe he got paid under the table to fake it who knows.
I doubt all this happened but it crossed my mind a couple of times.
Then you don't know Manu at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jobbs
He's already going back to the US tomorrow to start rehabilitation instead of going back to Argentina. People are talking of the possibility of surgery.
The epitome of being an idiot. You are playing for a country even without monetary gain, and you will be labeled selfish?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Manu looked pretty good there on the bench. I think he'll be fine. Hopefully no surgery.
STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
You are the one who is delusional. If magete could grab that much money, if cuban could give diop that much money, manu could fetch much more than what the spurs could offer. But the thing is, manu agreed to play with the spurs, because he likes the fo here. It's not always about the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
Watching the game last night I saw Manu jumping up and down. so hopefully that was a good sign. either that or he injured it even more. :) Anyways I think Manu was just as injured during the NBA playoffs, but he did not stop playing at all even though one could tell he was really hurting. At least in these olympics he did not play at all when he reinjured himself. So I don't question his loyalty as much.
Hopefully he rests for the firsst month of the season and then comes back even better than before, then idiots like t park and ducks will STFU.
Unless I missed the post that confirmed they were doctors/people who actually know what it feels like to choose between your country and your job while having a semi-healed ankle.
The problem with you people is you think Manu is just working for the spurs.
That's so wrong. For Manu it's not a job, it's what he loves, it's his life.
In Argentina when you start to play a sport, you do it in a Club, you pay a membership fees every month to stay on the club.
Manu went to the olympics because he loves basketball, and he left everything to play, he did it for the Spurs, he did it for Argentina, and he will do it again for the spurs, because he loves the game, he loves to play.
There is no magic around Manu, why do you like him? Because you see him enjoying the game, because left all on the field, and you are not used to that.
For you it's all money, I'm here reading your posts "it will cost...", you don't understand how to love the game, you don't understand how manu loves the game.
You don't want him anymore, it's perfect, he will find another place to play.
Manu owe a lot to the spurs, and the spurs owe a lot to Manu, let me tell you, the Spurs wouldn't be as famous as they are now if Manu wouldn't played for them.
Enjoy Manu's game... don't think about money.
That's why you can't stand the Olympics... because you don't love the game as Manu does.
Regards.
are you a doctor ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manufan909
[QUOTE=Spurs Brazil;2728888]Ginobili goes down how long until he goes?
Buck Harvey - BEIJING The Spurs had no choice. They had to go along with Manu Ginobili.
They had to say, yes, we trust you. They had to accept that the same Ginobili they love in tense moments is the same Ginobili who will sacrifice everything to play with his Argentine buddies.
[snip]
Still, his style was always going to burn out early, and that's why this summer could be another sea change. Ginobili risked everything when he came to Beijing, and he lost.
He chose, and he was wrong. And now it is someone else's turn to choose. ]
I said last year that b/c of his playing style he'd start going downhill in his early thirties. And now we know he will be having surgery next week.
Prediction: Spurs traded the Iceman...they will not break the bank on a new (or extended) contract for Manu. If he goes elsewhere, then so be it. Spurs will retool around TnT (Tim 'n Tony) with or w/o Manu. Both Tony and Manu know that Tim, not Manu, is the man.