Pop a candidate to coach USA for London games

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Originally Posted by exstatic

So D'Antoni can't win without Amare, and he can't win with Amare, and he can't beat the Spurs, and he can't beat other teams. Got it.

Oh, and that team that you highlighted made it all the way to the WCFs without Amare. That's where they lost to Dallas.

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So Amare Stoudamire is meaningless?

Got it.


PS: He beat everyone but the Spurs with Amare.


Pop hasn't even had a winning record as a coach without Duncan.

It matters.

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Originally Posted by whottt

So Amare Stoudamire is meaningless?

Got it.


PS: He beat everyone but the Spurs with Amare.


Pop hasn't even had a winning record as a coach without Duncan.

It matters.

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2003-2004. He didn't win with Amare that year, and it wasn't the Spurs.

Does it matter that in Pop's only season without Duncan the Spurs set the record for player games on the DL? 270 something or 280 something games? Handicap D'Antoni Amare and Nash and Matrix and see what he does...

I think Pop would be a good Olympic coach but selfishly I hope that Pop isn't picked so he can focus more on the Spurs. Pop isn't going to be a spring chicken in 2012 and I want him to use the fire he has left on the Spurs.

I think Billy Donovan has a better chance of becoming the Olympics coach than Pop. :lol

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Originally Posted by exstatic

2003-2004. He didn't win with Amare that year, and it wasn't the Spurs.

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A. He wasn't with the Suns for all of that year.
B. Neither was Amare.
C. Nash, Steve.

If I'm USA basketball, I hire Bob Knight to a four year contract and have him become the full-time Olympic coach. Then I'd film the whole thing as a reality series.

:lol

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Originally Posted by whottt

A. He wasn't with the Suns for all of that year.
B. Neither was Amare.
C. Nash, Steve.

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So, Pop can't win without Duncan and TFNs can't win without Nash. Bad News unless USA basketball can get Nash to change citizenship.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

So, Pop can't win without Duncan and TFNs can't win without Nash. Bad News unless USA basketball can get Nash to change citizenship.

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Originally Posted by whottt

Then again in FIBA...he[stache] won't have Steve Nash as his PG, so that has to be considered as well.

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But you left out one other thing...Pop is 0-2 in International championships as an assistant.


I don't think it's a wrong statement to say D'antoni understands the international game better than Pop.


You do realize Mike D'antoni was a Euroepean scout for the Spurs don't you?

You do realize he owned every person on this forum on Beno Udrih about 5 months before anyone else had a clue...

I don't expect you to like D'Antoni...I don't like him myself, but you need to separate yourself from your bias for a second...when he had talent he won with it, and he came very close to winning a championship...and probably the main reason he didn't is the difference in rules between the NBA and the International Game....

You don't need as much emphasis on defense in the International Game...it's rules are designed to circumvent individual defensive weakness and place a premium on shooting ability.

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Originally Posted by whottt

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But you left out one other thing...Pop is 0-2 in International championships as an assistant.


I don't think it's a wrong statement to say D'antoni understands the international game better than Pop.


You do realize Mike D'antoni was a Euroepean scout for the Spurs don't you?

You do realize he owned every person on this forum on Beno Udrih about 5 months before anyone else had a clue...

I don't expect you to like D'Antoni...I don't like him myself, but you need to separate yourself from your bias for a second...when he had talent he won with it, and he came very close to winning a championship...and probably the main reason he didn't is the difference in rules between this and the International Game.

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I'm not advocating Pop, but you keep saying I am. I am de-advocating D'Antoni. The Nike Team shooters aren't good enough to play his game and beat the Internationals. They'll run us off the fucking court if we don't play defense, and no D'Antoni team ever has.

I doubt we see Kobe or Duncan in 2012, both will be past their respective primes.

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Originally Posted by j.r. haider

what if pop gets injured during the olympics?

i think he should show his commitment to the spurs by not going.

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:lmao

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Originally Posted by exstatic

I'm not advocating Pop, but you keep saying I am. I am de-advocating D'Antoni. The Nike Team shooters aren't good enough to play his game and beat the Internationals. They'll run us off the fucking court if we don't play defense, and no D'Antoni team ever has.

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That's not true about the need for D in the international game. Matter of fact, premium individual defensive ability is pretty much wasted in the International Game.

I have done nothing but laugh at Flip Saunders and the Pistons since they day they made that guy the head coach of the Pistons...but I wouldn't bat an eyelash if he was named coach of Team USA...that's exactly the sort of situation in which style would fit.



I am not in favor of Pop becoming coach of Team USA for one major reason...Pop's strength as a coach is virtually useless in International Play, and it takes time for him to instill it...a month out of each summer won't do it. It takes him 4 months every season to instill with players who know his philosophy like the back of their hands.

Whereas that game plays to the strenghts of guys like D'antoni, Saunders and even Nelly.


I'd sign off on Nelly being named coach of Team USA in an instant...I'd get physically ill if he was named coach of the Spurs. It's not the same game...just ask Tim Duncan.

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Originally Posted by whottt

You know coughShoogarBearcough..when someone puts that much effort into a clever response...it's polite to at least chuckle, even if you don't mean it. Humor doesn't come as easy to some of us as it does to others.

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Sorry, I had to go check into my hotel.

What was the question again, Alex?

Colangelo Will Run USA Hoops Through 2012
Aug 24th 2008
Tom Ziller
AOL Fanhouse

In the afterglow of Team USA's gold medal redemption, the attention turns to what's next. Actually, the New York Times scooped everyone by asking the crew on Saturday their plans for participation in the 2009-2012 edition. But Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports got something solid on the guy who calls the shots, Jerry Colangelo.

Moments after the United States' 118-107 victory over Spain on Sunday, Colangelo strongly suggested he would return: "Look, continuity is important. If you're a betting guy, you'd say, (I'm) probably going to do it. But it's not official."

Colangelo, 68, said he plans to make an announcement next week. His continuing in the job would be no surprise. Colangelo has been talking a lot about the future of the program, about its next steps and no one surrounding USA Basketball and the NBA expects him to walk away.

That matters quite a bit. Why? Colangelo's proud of this team, proud his vision came to its best possible end. I imagine, because of that, any Redeem Teamers who want back in for the 2010 World Championships and the 2012 London Games will have a spot ... save maybe Jason Kidd.

Likewise, the players Colangelo picked for the USA Select team -- Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, Kevin Martin, Brandon Roy among them -- will likely have a better shot than if someone else took over. If too many 2008 ballers stick around (it'd be a third straight Games appearance for Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James, Chris Paul and Dwyane Wade), these other kids won't get much of a chance.

As for coaching, expect Mike D'Antoni or Nate McMillan to get the nod. Gregg Popovich has been mentioned, but he and Colangelo don't get along, and that'd potentially ruin all the good feelings from Beijing.

as if he'd want to. :rolleyes

Well, Redeem team that just won gold implemented DA's system. As a Suns fan, I hated his system for NBA plays since you never could assemble enough talent to make it successful in the playoffs. Everybody needs to be able to defend and make steals while able to shoot and score at the same time. Only team USA could get so much talent to do that. So, it's logical that they give the job to DA.