Manu to have surgery.

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08-29-2008
ducks

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he is going to be out atleast tell dec

pop is going to make sure manu is healthy

doctors could have suggested surgery but manu could have said no that is not an option I want to play in summer games

I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS A FACT THOUGH

good to get the knife and get well
manu will have to obey now with surgery
08-29-2008
nil.ball

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Shane Battier for Manu?
maybe we (rockets) will throw in something RC will really like, ca$$$$h?
08-29-2008
T Park

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

You can't trade him now of course. He's got no value.

I think he needed to have this after the playoffs and just sat on it so he could play. Fine, Manu did what he had to do for his personal glory. Just because it doesn't involve money doesn't mean its a noble decision. But whatever. I think its was a really stupid decision to play but if I was Argentinian maybe I'd think otherwise.

Whatever, as a Spurs fan I'm pissed at Manu. Hopefully he can recover sometime before 2009. I'm not buying this 6-8 week bullshit. Manu has never been one to recover quickly.

Spot on.
08-29-2008
T Park

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

:lol at people trying to rationalize that if he hadn't gone to the Olympics he wouldn't be getting the surgery.

Dream on. Spurs' doctors would have examined him 3-4 weeks ago, realized that the ankle wasn't getting better, and done the surgery then, and things would be a month ahead of where they are now.

He could've had the surgery back in June and been ahead of schedule.
08-29-2008
ShoogarBear

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I believe that they were willing to wait a little to see if he could go without surgery. If he definitely needed the surgery in June, then they would never have cleared him for the Olympics.
08-29-2008
MannyIsGod

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

I believe that they were willing to wait a little to see if he could go without surgery. If he definitely needed the surgery in June, then they would never have cleared him for the Olympics.

I'm not sure we'll ever know, but I think its possible they saw surgery as a pretty good possibility back then. They would have gained nothing but telling that to people on the outside though, so why release it?

It doesn't make much sense otherwise. Everything we heard that his ankle was looking bad and it was staying that way. Then what was it, 2 weeks before Manu was going it all of a sudden looked good? Then this happens? I'm pretty sure it never looked good.
08-29-2008
dbestpro

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

:lol at people trying to rationalize that if he hadn't gone to the Olympics he wouldn't be getting the surgery.

Dream on. Spurs' doctors would have examined him 3-4 weeks ago, realized that the ankle wasn't getting better, and done the surgery then, and things would be a month ahead of where they are now.

:lol at people who think that Manu would have had the surgery any earlier when this problem has been going on for 2-3 years.
08-29-2008
Sissiborgo

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You High?..
08-29-2008
angel_luv

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Well, in one post you just made duncan228, angel_luv, and the various Parker groupies jealous. Pretty soon the scary boys will be the only ones you haven't pissed off.

Nah. I am happy for her.

Welcome, Lolo.

Wait till you meet Manu. He is so nice. :)
08-29-2008
timvp

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

I believe that they were willing to wait a little to see if he could go without surgery. If he definitely needed the surgery in June, then they would never have cleared him for the Olympics.

Wouldn't it have depended on whether or not they thought he could hurt his ankle further? It sounds more like nagging inflammation than severe structural damage.

But yeah, I don't buy that the Olympics were good for Manu because now he can get the surgery out of the way. The Spurs would have kept updated on the injury and would have gone ahead with the surgery at some point. Latest would have probably been early July.

As a Spurs fan, this situation pretty much sucks. I understand why Manu played in the Olympics and I'm not pissed at him -- but then again, he didn't have the Spurs' best interest in mind at all. His recent article makes me question how much he cares at all about the upcoming season. Manu said he was sad that he couldn't stick around and enjoy China more with his teammates. Um yeah that is great and all but you have an ankle injury that you haven't had an MRI on and your employers who are paying $10M need to see it.

Pop will no doubt delay Manu's comeback as long as possible. As long as the Spurs are winning at a decent clip, there shouldn't be a rush to bring him back.

When Manu comes back, hopefully he is not only physically healthy but mentally totally into the Spurs. He seems like he's Argentina mode right now but the Spurs will need him to be as dedicated as ever to pull out a fifth championship.

Bottomline is I'd never trade Manu and as always I'm very happy he's on the Spurs, but looking at this situation as a Spurs fan rather than a Manu fan, I have to say it is all one big cluster of disappointment.
08-29-2008
timvp

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

:lol at people who think that Manu would have had the surgery any earlier when this problem has been going on for 2-3 years.

Link?
08-29-2008
ShoogarBear

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Originally Posted by dbestpro

:lol at people who think that Manu would have had the surgery any earlier when this problem has been going on for 2-3 years.

Really? So then why didn't they do surgery 2-3 years ago?
08-29-2008
sprrs

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It's gonna be early in the season, so it won't be that bad. I was hoping Manu would have the chance to rest anyway during that time, and hopefully he'll come back even better and less likely to re-injure it. The only problem would be getting him into game shape when he does come back, but he would have plenty of time for that.
08-29-2008
urunobili

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I'm pretty sure it never looked good.

it seems you didn;t see anything of the Olympics despite starting all those threads...

leading Scorer until he went down and assists leader for the 4 first games... monster dunks... speed was back.... yeah he could have played like this against the lakers then and he baked the series on purpose is what it'd mean if what you say is true... :pop:
08-29-2008
DPG21920

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This is just so upsettig as a Spurs fan. I will never question his reasoning behind playing for his country, but this is just terrible news. Manny is right to a certain degree. Manu is not a quick healer and I am worried that it might be a bit longer recovery than is being let on. I hope he gets well and can get back, this is going to have to be a massive group effort from many players to keep the Spurs in contention.
08-29-2008
T Park

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but then again, he didn't have the Spurs' best interest in mind at all. His recent article makes me question how much he cares at all about the upcoming season. Manu said he was sad that he couldn't stick around and enjoy China more with his teammates. Um yeah that is great and all but you have an ankle injury that you haven't had an MRI on and your employers who are paying $10M need to see it.

I've been saying that about his lack dedication to the Spurs and I got ripped to shreds about it.
08-29-2008
timvp

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Oh and for the love of basketball gods Pop, please start Roger Mason over Michael Finley while Manu is out.

Please?
08-29-2008
SpursFanFirst

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Surgery +rehab is always a crap shoot when it comes to estimating recovery time. 6-8 weeks may be right but you always wonder with older guys, and Manu's no spring chicken. September is not when you want to be making these decisions.

I hear what you're saying, but it's Manu. This was bound to happen with the way he's constantly sacrificing his body.
It's better it happens now than halfway through the season. No?
08-29-2008
MannyIsGod

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Originally Posted by urunobili

it seems you didn;t see anything of the Olympics despite starting all those threads...

leading Scorer until he went down and assists leader for the 4 first games... monster dunks... speed was back.... yeah he could have played like this against the lakers then and he baked the series on purpose is what it'd mean if what you say is true... :pop:

He also had months of rest before that. Don't you think I thought about that before I posted?
08-29-2008
SpursFanFirst

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Originally Posted by spurs_fan_in_exile

I broached this idea last year during the offseason and I think it's worth revisiting it now: breaking down Matt Bonner into healthy replacement parts for rotation players.

:( Now that is NOT nice. Where is easjer, anyway?
08-29-2008
DPG21920

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Is anyone else waiting on some good news this offseason. Hell, I can even live witht the typical no news. But the bad news is killing me right now.
08-29-2008
urunobili

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Originally Posted by timvp

Wouldn't it have depended on whether or not they thought he could hurt his ankle further? It sounds more like nagging inflammation than severe structural damage.

this doesn't prove they would have gone with surgery instead of the treatment he had.. he could have injured in the pre season and the results would be worse than having him go over surgery now

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Originally Posted by timvp

But yeah, I don't buy that the Olympics were good for Manu because now he can get the surgery out of the way. The Spurs would have kept updated on the injury and would have gone ahead with the surgery at some point. Latest would have probably been early July.

The following MRI's he had early July showed the ligament way smaller so this is BS

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Originally Posted by timvp

As a Spurs fan, this situation pretty much sucks. I understand why Manu played in the Olympics and I'm not pissed at him -- but then again, he didn't have the Spurs' best interest in mind at all. His recent article makes me question how much he cares at all about the upcoming season. Manu said he was sad that he couldn't stick around and enjoy China more with his teammates. Um yeah that is great and all but you have an ankle injury that you haven't had an MRI on and your employers who are paying $10M need to see it.

:lmao at Drama and the Harvey like feelings... you should proofread when he says that the Spurs agreed with his offseason plans. and THEY pay the money not you or any citizen of the city of SAT with taxes... you just have to get over it

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Originally Posted by timvp

Pop will no doubt delay Manu's comeback as long as possible. As long as the Spurs are winning at a decent clip, there shouldn't be a rush to bring him back.

Blessing in disguise... Mason could turn out to be a stud and he'll get plenty of minutes to learn the system :tu

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Originally Posted by timvp

When Manu comes back, hopefully he is not only physically healthy but mentally totally into the Spurs. He seems like he's Argentina mode right now but the Spurs will need him to be as dedicated as ever to pull out a fifth championship.

He wants it as badly as you do... you have to believe in that... he never made you think the opposite, no proof of that and i think you're kinds jealous of the chemistry he has with the NT

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Originally Posted by timvp

Bottomline is I'd never trade Manu and as always I'm very happy he's on the Spurs, but looking at this situation as a Spurs fan rather than a Manu fan, I have to say it is all one big cluster of disappointment.

We all are sad... but as it was seen last season we need him healthy to win it all... and there is no proof he wouldn't have gone down anyway without playing the Olympics so get a Pop kinda attitude and embrace him again
08-29-2008
duncan228

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Originally Posted by lolo21209

Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for about 6 months now, but have never registered cause I am a girl and guys give me crap cause I like basketball.

Welcome to the board lolo21209, the more girls the better. And if you hadn't told them you were a girl they may never have figured it out. Trust me.

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Originally Posted by ashbeeigh

There are plenty of lovely girls here that talk basketball on this forum. There is no reason for you to not post just because you're a girl! I hope you feel better too! Duncan228 would have just about fainted from seeing Tim Duncan. :lol

Just about fainted? I think it's pretty clear that fainting would have been in order.

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Originally Posted by ShoogarBear

Well, in one post you just made duncan228, angel_luv, and the various Parker groupies jealous. Pretty soon the scary boys will be the only ones you haven't pissed off.

:lol I don't know if I'm jealous or not. The whole thought of actually being that close to Duncan freaks me out. I think I do better at a safe distance.

As for Manu, it is what it is. I'm glad it's being taken care of now, he'll have plenty of time to rehab before the meat of the season. There's nothing to be gained by rehashing whether he should have played in the Olympics or not. It's done. I hope the surgery is successful and he recovers fully.
08-29-2008
timvp

Re: Manu to have surgery.

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Originally Posted by urunobili

The following MRI's he had early July showed the ligament way smaller so this is BS

That's a lie. Link or STFU.

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Originally Posted by urunobili

:lmao at Drama and the Harvey like feelings... you should proofread when he says that the Spurs agreed with his offseason plans. and THEY pay the money not you or any citizen of the city of SAT with taxes... you just have to get over it

Link to where I said the Spurs didn't approve.

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Originally Posted by urunobili

He wants it as badly as you do... you have to believe in that... he never made you think the opposite, no proof of that and i think you're kinds jealous of the chemistry he has with the NT

WTF? I'm jealous of what now?

Manu Fan can be so damn annoying/stupid/arrogant it's amazing. Worst sect of "Spurs fans" in Spurs history.
08-29-2008
Spurs1234

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I think gino would have had to have the surgery eventually, he just was not right in that lakers series. Remember, even up to the olympics, he was taking along time to recover and their was doubt if he would play..if it was a normal spained ankle, he would have been ok in two months rest. I still dont know what play he hurt it, everyoen says game one vs. the suns, but if you see his final score in double ot, he looked ok to me...who knows..either way, he will be ready for the season, could have been worse. everyone needs to get over he hurt himself in the olympics, it was an old injury that would have flarred up anyways, seems to me the olympics are a blessing in disguise.

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