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timvp
That's a lie. Link or STFU.
i'm looking for the link right now...
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timvp
Link to where I said the Spurs didn't approve.
you didn't say it you suggested it
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timvp
WTF? I'm jealous of what now?
you have mentioned on several of your previous posts "Argentine mindset that needs to become Spurs one" among other stuff that suggests your nonconformity therefore it could be interpreted Jealously for how much he loves them since u feel the Spurs are <NT and that is NOT TRUE Spurs=NT for Manu
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timvp
Manu Fan can be so damn annoying/stupid/arrogant it's amazing. Worst sect of "Spurs fans" in Spurs history.
You are being WAY rude and derogatory with me... i am a Spurs fan thanks to the admiral and since 1995. i am sorry you consider the CoM as the worst in history... that is not good :depressed and if my nickname suggests i am a Manu fan first please change it to UruSpur... i'd enjoy another ring second to nothing on this world... thanks
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You are being WAY rude and derogatory with me... i am a Spurs fan thanks to the admiral and since 1995. i am sorry you consider the CoM as the worst in history... that is not good
With the way you guys act, its freaking true.
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urunobili
you have mentioned on several of your previous posts "Argentine mindset that needs to become Spurs one" among other stuff that suggests your nonconformity therefore it could be interpreted Jealously for how much he loves them since u feel the Spurs are <NT and that is NOT TRUE Spurs=NT for Manu
:lmao
Yeah
Fucking
Right
The Spurs are the mistress and the NT is Manu's wife. No matter how many times he tells the Spurs he's leaving his wife its just not true.
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urunobili
i'm looking for the link right now...
Good luck. Doesn't exist. Manu said it felt better but there was no MRI done that showed the inflammation and the ligament in question were "way smaller".
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urunobili
you have mentioned on several of your previous posts "Argentine mindset that needs to become Spurs one" among other stuff that suggests your nonconformity therefore it could be interpreted Jealously for how much he loves them since u feel the Spurs are <NT and that is NOT TRUE Spurs=NT for Manu
I don't see where jealousy comes into play. Manu himself said the NT is the best team he's ever played on. He says he treasures the medals he won at the Olympics more than anything. But that is to be expected. Great accomplishments and they should be his most cherished wins.
My original point was that after the Olympics were over, he needed to start caring for his ankle because the Spurs season will be here before he knows it. By his own words, he wanted to stay in China with his teammates. I apologize if I have the nerve to think Manu should do all he can to be healed ASAP and try to win a championship.
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urunobili
You are being WAY rude and derogatory with me... i am a Spurs fan thanks to the admiral and since 1995. i am sorry you consider the CoM as the worst in history... that is not good :depressed
Hey, you are the one who came out attacking me. And as you said you are a Spurs fan, so I wasn't talking about you.
Those fans who only care what happens to Manu and couldn't care less whether the Spurs win or lose is who I was talking about. I don't think you are in that group.
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As long as he will be good to go after the all-star break im ok with it. Spurs need to find out what they have with hill, udoka, and mason anyways. And him missing some time is i guess a way to find out. Finley will start the season( i hope not) but its POP. The spurs alone with Tony and Tim will keep them in contention. With I hope Mason being the starter when he returns Manu can contribute right away off the bench,and Finley can just be a 3pt shooter off bench like barry. We are gonna find out real quick how the spurs did this offseason. So i am kind of looking forward to the beginning of the season for once. I would not rush Manu at all!!!
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The most Important information is that Manu is at peace.
That means he can focus his entire being into recovering and he'll be longing to step back on the court and start wreaking havoc again. Basketball is in his soul.
The surgery is happening early enough that he will not miss too many games (hopefully).
Anyway, the Spurs have new players. This is a good time for them to get reps, early, as opposed to throwing them in, during the midst of a playoff race.
Let Pop find out who has game, while the competition is not heated, since the rest of the league is also trying to figure out what they have on their roster. Come on people elevate your thought process, please?
Say Manu didn't play in the Olympics, turned his back on players he grew up with. Said thank you President but no, let someone else carry the flag, I will sit this out because the Spurs asked me not to play.
It would have eaten him up inside. The same love, fire, fiercely competive aspects of his personality that helped win 3 championships for the Spurs, are the same reasons that it was never in doubt he would answer the call of his country.
I'd rather have a Manu Ginobili who is injured for a couple months of the season, but who is here Entirely, and able to put all his spirit and will into playing winning basketball and be fresh for the playoffs.
Than A Manu Ginobili who is 1 month further along in his rehab sechedule, but is mindfucked and spiritually malaised.
These athletes have the best doctors, this injury is not career threatening, and Manu GAINED from his Olympic experience.
When he comes back from his injury healed, and is dropping 30 in back to back to back games again....
all you folk who are so quick to bash someone and judge someone for doing something they believe in, will be singing his praises, acting like you had his back all along.
But for now, hush children, stop showing your ass.
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timvp
Link?
http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php/Manu_Ginobili
"The 2005-2006 season started with troubles for Ginobili, who suffered foot and ankle injuries that hindered his ability to play."
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Mark my words: Manu will be out minumum 8-12 weeks. 2 months. Period. This whole 6-8 weeks business is a pipe dream.
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dbestpro
Not the same injury. That was a sprained ankle he hurt against the Heat, IIRC.
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dbestpro
Also, it was the other foot.
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Re: Manu to have surgery.
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timvp
Not the same injury. That was a sprained ankle he hurt against the Heat, IIRC.
I will disagree and say that the injury is related. People who have ankle and foot injuries that continue to reoccur are related to the initial injury.
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timvp
His recent article makes me question how much he cares at all about the upcoming season. Manu said he was sad that he couldn't stick around and enjoy China more with his teammates. Um yeah that is great and all but you have an ankle injury that you haven't had an MRI on and your employers who are paying $10M need to see it.
While I agree with you on most on your points, I find you a little harsh with Manu on this one. He has been for more than one month playing BB with players that are great friends. I can understand that Spurs aren't in his mindset at this moment and that he is disappointed to leave them early.
More generally, Argentina NT > Spurs for Manu and I have no problem with that as long as he gives 100% of himself when he plays for Spurs.
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timvp
Good luck. Doesn't exist. Manu said it felt better but there was no MRI done that showed the inflammation and the ligament in question were "way smaller".
http://www.huaxlee.com/olympics/2933...na-flagbearer/
one sec... i'm finding one with the results of that second MRI done in SAT at least i'm proving there was a second one
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/o...purs_look.html
no results were given of the second MRI... there was a second one.. but no one knows the results... :wow:wow
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There is a bit of silver lining to all of this though that the Spurs can thank the basketball gods for. I swear the NBA scheduler is a Spurs fan.
The Spurs season starts out with 3 straight losses and doom and gloom and "Trade Manu".
But then it really lightens up. November and December are relative cakewalks.
They'll pay the price in January though as it really toughens up and all those powerhouse matches to show up along with extended road trips. Rodeo this year will be abnormally harsh.
So best case scenario, the Spurs are a few games over .500 coming into January when a fully rested Manu will hopefully be ready and TP & Timmy aren't out of gas.
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urunobili
"Ginobili will have surgery next week in Los Angeles, said a person close to Ginobili who wanted to remain anonymous because the Spurs have not yet announced the surgery."
Interesting. Nice find.
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Bruno
While I agree with you on most on your points, I find you a little harsh with Manu on this one. He has been for more than one month playing BB with players that are great friends. I can understand that Spurs aren't in his mindset at this moment and that he is disappointed to leave them early.
The thing is though is that the Spurs asked Manu to go back to San Antonio after he got injured. He said he wanted to wait until after the bronze medal game. The Spurs say okay and now he's saying he wanted to stay even longer.
While that is an understandable emotion, at that point no one had done an MRI on his ankle. For all he knew he could have torn something or broken a bone and been hurting it further walking around. If he had the MRI in China and it showed nothing serious, I would have been fine with him staying for however long he wants. But when he could possibly have suffered major damage, he needed to have it checked out ASAP.
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urunobili
Yeah it was widely reported that there was a second one but that one showed everything was basically the same. He never went from hurt to healed. He had a few injections and weeks of rest that allowed him to play but his ankle never got better.
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And Manu should go in France to have his surgery. :stirpot:
We have goo doctors, just ask it to Angelina...
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I think the good news is that happened now.
He may miss a few games but it'll be in the beggining of the season and Manu said it won't bother him anymore. We can survive one month without Manu.
And as timvp said. Please Pop start Mason and not Finley
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Ginobili to have surgery
Mike Monroe - Express-News Spurs star Manu Ginobili will have surgery next week on his left ankle and heel to repair ligament damage that has hampered his game for many months.
The Spurs medical staff has been in consultation for several days with other sports medicine experts to determine when and where the arthroscopic procedure will be done.
Ginobili most recently injured the joint while playing for Argentina in the Olympic basketball tournament in Beijing. He limped to the sidelines early in Argentina's semifinal game against the United States last Friday. He did not play again in the tournament, missing Argentina's victory Sunday over Lithuania that earned the bronze medal.
Ginobili, who returned from Beijing late Monday night, had another MRI exam taken of the injured foot and ankle after his return. Results of that test, he told the Argentine newspaper La Nacion indicated the need for surgery.
"They're going to operate on me," Ginobili told the paper. "It is the same as it was two months ago when they did the first (MRI) exam. It's not worse, which is important. Now, the thing is, it's not better, either, and it seems the only way to repair it completely is arthroscopic surgery."
The Spurs issued a press release Friday afternoon confirming Ginobili will have the surgery next week.
Ginobili has been hampered by soreness in his left ankle and heel for several seasons. He jammed the joint during the Spurs' first-round series against Phoenix and was hampered through the remainder of the playoffs. His production dropped off dramatically in the Spurs' Western Conference finals elimination by the Los Angeles Lakers.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...e_surgery.html
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timvp
Oh and for the love of basketball gods Pop, please start Roger Mason over Michael Finley while Manu is out.
Please?
Not A Chance.
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Oh, great, and now it's going to be Laker Fan operating on it? Perfect,.
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Good news is Shoog, is that Kobe's pinky surgery is in San Antonio
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timvp
The thing is though is that the Spurs asked Manu to go back to San Antonio after he got injured. He said he wanted to wait until after the bronze medal game. The Spurs say okay and now he's saying he wanted to stay even longer.
Yeah, but just for 24 hours. They play 18 days every 2 o 4 years. His family was there too. :lol
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timvp
While that is an understandable emotion, at that point no one had done an MRI on his ankle. For all he knew he could have torn something or broken a bone and been hurting it further walking around. If he had the MRI in China and it showed nothing serious, I would have been fine with him staying for however long he wants. But when he could possibly have suffered major damage, he needed to have it checked out ASAP.
Don't worry for what is done. Dr Grippo was in contact with Spurs and Manu's room was always a mini-hospital.
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Dr. Grippo? Harpo, Chico, and Zeppo must have been busy.
