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I believe that title has already been taken. Im sure you've heard of the name. Manu's real teammate..here's a hint............. Orberto. :wow For the life of me Ive never seen a man miss so many easy open shots. Inches away from the net. And almost always left alone. :downspin:Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorSpur
I can't believe the hate for a Spurs legend like AJ.
I can't believe all the hate for Avery. The Mavs gave him a chance to coach and he took it, big deal. It's not like he can't participate in the NBA outside of the Spurs organization just because he made his career here.
If you knew some of the dirt on this guy, you'd understand. I'll only speak or myself. Personally, I don't give a damn about the fact that Avery coached the Mavs. For the record, I hate the Mavs. That has absolutely nothing to do with my comments about him. It's more his hypocritical behavior and his total lack of accountability as a coach, former player and person.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMX7
From his overly abrasive criticism of players while with the Spurs, to the backhanded comments made when the Spurs elected NOT to resign him as a player, to his parting shots at the Mavs when he got the axe from Cuban. Because I live here in the metroplex, I'm privy to much more of the media skuttlebutt and stories behind Avery's underhanded, backroom shenanigans and episodes of petty behavior than most.
This is a guy who roundly criticized former PG Devin Harris in practice and in the media every year of his Mavs career. Then recommends the trade for J-Kidd because as AJ put it, "we can't win with him as PG and we can't wait on him to develop any longer". Then once Kidd arrives, dude openly whines to the media about how he had developed Harris to the point where he was on the verge of being an 18ppg, 8ast player. Then openly took credit for the success Harris was having in Jersey.
This is a guy that, on his way out the door, blamed the owner and GM for the construction of a roster made up of players that he told Cuban he had to have in order to win! Then in the next breath in the interview, predicted that the Mavs wouldn't make the playoffs! I guess the expected downfall will be because of the absence of his coaching genius. How petty can one guy be?
It's the same old thing with Avery - the politician. He reminds me of a chocolate-covered, pint-sized version of another asshole, former Dallas Cowboys head coach, Bill Parcells. Quick to take in all the credit for winning, but none of the blame for losing. By the time he left, he was disliked by players, assistant coaches and staff office personnel. Dude has left a trail of "scorched earth" and torrid comments everywhere he's been. Nothing that goes wrong is ever his fault. It's always the fault of someone or something else.
In the words of the great Denny Green, "they are who we thought they were". :lol
Ah yes, the Oberto hate. You look at missed shots here and there, overplay it, and put so much importance into them, you are blind to the many, many other aspects to his game that are keys to the Spurs continued success. His spacing is superb, he makes very few mistakes in his team defense, his passing decisions, court vision and movement to space is why his teammates and coaches like him out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrspurs
Here are a couple of quotes:
"Sometimes his stats don't appear on a piece of paper, then you get in the film session and see the things he's done, you say, ‘Wow, look at Fab. That play was awesome.' ...“And then a little later, you're saying it again.” - Bruce Bowen
"He's played hard, been physical, he's always there at the right time, in the right position, setting great picks and we're finding him. He's rolling all the time and with all the help, maybe they have a tendency of forgetting about him since they're so focused with me, Manu and Timmy." - Tony Parker
"That's a player. A smart player....(and on his passing)..“That's one thing that I always put up there on the board, that he's a really good interior passer,”....“That pass to Ginobili, and another one from the top (of the key), a bounce pass to Tim, were great passes. Every coach in the league would like to have a guy like that on their team." - former NBA defensive specialist and current assistant coach with the Detroit Pistons, Darrell Walker
Oh, and back to the missed shots. Sure he doesn't get as many shots as Duncan or Ginobili or Parker, but he still led the Spurs in FG% by a wide margin with .608 from the field. I guess he did make a fair share.
Define legend. He hit one shot but was otherwise considered at best a middle of the pack point guard throughout his career, fought with Malik Rose, and caused defenses to collapse on Robinson and the rest of the Spurs.
If David Robinson had Parker he would have several more titles. Legend? Only in his own mind.
True dat. It pisses me off that that lil' bastard thought he was so much better than he was. Dude must've forgot that he couldn't shoot a lick on a consistent basis - just like J-Kidd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rummpd
I do give him credit for developing from an awful player to an average one, but he carries himself as though he was a superstar. You'd think he'd be a bit more humble having had the luxury of playing with and coaching the great players that he has.
As far as coaching, the worst thing that could've ever happened to him was having early success with the Mavs. That success, along with the usual COY accolades, went right to his head. Never took input from players, assistant coaches, GM, owner - anyone.
J,
I got your book for you today...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...oFan/AJnme.jpg
:makeout
Who loves you babe???
Avery Johnson will be the coach of the Spurs next season. Book it!
I wouldn't mind AJ back as Asst Coach...
If the Spurs bring this guy back in any coaching capacity, we're doomed. He reminds me of that guy at the gym that we all have played with at one point or another. He can't play for shit but yells at eveyone else if they mess up.
all of this makes me sick... go avery go!
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Originally Posted by Rummpd
Who holds the franchise record for assists.
Set the foundation for "Spurs Basketball"
Go back to chiropracting doc.
Yeah transforming a band of choking dogs into a team that went to the Finals would definately doom this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by rj215
Go back to your hiding plae.
Yeah he got them to choke in the playoffs instead. Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Amen brother!! :toast
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Originally Posted by SenorSpur
You are THE best Beckie!
Thank you very much for taking time out of your busy schedule to be willing to go stand in line for the book signing.
PM me your bank account and I'll make sure you get compensated fairly for your time.
I LOVE THE PICTURE!!!
I said it 1,000 times before and I'll say it again: True Spurs fans are the best fans!
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Aspire Higher? Does that mean he figure out that 5'10" really isn't tall enough for the NBA? Or that the regular season doesn't really mean shit?
I'm having a hard time picturing myself burning gasoline to get a comic book with his signature in it.
You look lovely in that picture, Sis.Quote:
Originally Posted by RashoFan
As soon as I crop Avery out of it, the picture will be perfect. :)
It reminds me of that one time the Romans crucified that one long haired dude with the beard and white robe.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
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Originally Posted by J.T.
Wow! Comparisons to J.C. Not even franchise icon and all-everything saint, David Robinson, gets that type of comparison. :lol :rollinQuote:
Originally Posted by J.T.
His number got retired . . . what else do you want?Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Classy Spurs fans? whottt to be happy about it? :rollin
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Originally Posted by angel_luv
If Angel doesn't like him there must be something wrong with the guy . . .
With all the AJ nut-riding, you'd think this guy was eligble and worthy for the Basketball HOF.