Jeff Van Gundy: Ginobili Putting Off Surgery Put Spurs "At A Stark Disadvantage"

Did Manu have the Spurs' best interest in mind when deciding to play in the Olympics? No.

Did Manu know that playing in the Olympics could result in the Spurs and Spurs fans suffering this coming season? Yes.

Was there any way in hell Manu wasn't going to play in the Olympics? No.

Should the Spurs blame, trade or be mad at Manu? No.

I'm ready to move on from the whole Manu mess. He was going to play in the Olympics no matter if he risked further injury or Spurs losses. He played and got hurt. Oh well. The games must go on.

Regarding Manu, we just have to hope he recovers completely and is ready to peak during the playoffs for the first time since 2005. The Spurs will need him playing his best when it counts for the team to have a chance.

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Did Manu have the Spurs' best interest in mind when deciding to play in the Olympics? No.

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After stating that fact, nothing can justify playing in the Olympics.

Everyday Im Hustling Hustling

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Originally Posted by T Park

After stating that fact, nothing can justify playing in the Olympics.

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Maybe it doesn't justify it to you, but it doesn't have to. Manu doesn't have to have the Spurs best interest in mind in every move he makes in the offseason. He just has to do what he needs to do to have peace with himself. Everyone who knows anything about Manu knows how much the Olympics/his national team mean to him. You can't judge him for his priorities and passions.

why can you not judge him?

he gets paid to play for the spurs

if the spurs trade him you can not judge them either then because he does not head to their suggestions during the offseasons if you can not judge manu

THANK YOU SO MUCH KORI!!!Nobody understands that there was nothing that was going to keep Manu from defending his olympic gold medal for his country, hell nobody could have kept me away from doing the same if i had the oppurtunity. I completely respect Manu for the decision he made and will continue to defend him till the day he retires on this matter!!

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Originally Posted by batman2883

Everyday Im Hustling Hustling

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so that makes it ok not to do what your 80 million dollar boss wants

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Originally Posted by batman2883

THANK YOU SO MUCH KORI!!!Nobody understands that there was nothing that was going to keep Manu from defending his olympic gold medal for his country, hell nobody could have kept me away from doing the same if i had the oppurtunity. I completely respect Manu for the decision he made and will continue to defend him till the day he retires on this matter!!

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true broken body did not stop manu and stopping contract extension talk did not either


because he is more stubborn then pop
spurs threaten to put extension on hold and he still said who cares
I DO WHAT I WANT

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Originally Posted by ducks

so that makes it ok not to do what your 80 million dollar boss wants

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his drive and passion to lead his country who considers him their idol....Manu is Argentina's superstar in more ways than one!!

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Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

Maybe it doesn't justify it to you, but it doesn't have to. Manu doesn't have to have the Spurs best interest in mind in every move he makes in the offseason. He just has to do what he needs to do to have peace with himself. Everyone who knows anything about Manu knows how much the Olympics/his national team mean to him. You can't judge him for his priorities and passions.

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When it affects the team I pay to watch and root for, yes it does.

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Originally Posted by batman2883

his drive and passion to lead his country who considers him their idol....Manu is Argentina's superstar in more ways than one!!

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so his fans over there want him to play when he is hurt and have surgery instead

take about a selfish fans

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Originally Posted by ducks

why can you not judge him?

he gets paid to play for the spurs

if the spurs trade him you can not judge them either then because he does not head to their suggestions during the offseasons if you can not judge manu

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And you ask why i call you idiot?

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Originally Posted by ducks

true broken body did not stop manu and stopping contract extension talk did not either


because he is more stubborn then pop
spurs threaten to put extension on hold and he still said who cares
I DO WHAT I WANT

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Its not doing what he wanted, its doing something that he thought he needed to do, his leadership, his on court presence to help defend his olympic gold medal.

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Originally Posted by Cherry

And you ask why i call you idiot?

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kori is the one that said you can not judge manu not me

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Originally Posted by batman2883

his drive and passion to lead his country who considers him their idol....Manu is Argentina's superstar in more ways than one!!

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Good for Argentina.

Let them pay his salary then.

Until they do, his bosses are the Spurs, and the Spurs wanted him to rest at home. He blew the Spurs off, and now hes out till December or January.

Spurs shouldn't pay him a fucking dime till he plays again.

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Originally Posted by batman2883

Its not doing what he wanted, its doing something that he thought he needed to do, his leadership, his on court presence to help defend his olympic gold medal.

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if he did not want to
all he had to do is say no

is his country CHINA?

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Originally Posted by ducks

so his fans over there want him to play when he is hurt and have surgery instead

take about a selfish fans

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talk about stubborn, get over it dude it happened, he went with his heart, for his country.........and i think its admorable.

Here's The Cold Hard Facts, Spurs Wanted Him To Rest....he Didnt, His Foot Would Have Needed Surgery Either Way, It Wasnt Getting Any Better Or Worse.....end Of The Story Is Id Rather Have Him Get The Surgery Now Rather Than At The Beggining Of The Season And Have Him Gone Most Of The Entire Season...this Is A Blessing In Disguise

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Originally Posted by batman2883

talk about stubborn, get over it dude it happened, he went with his heart, for his country.........and i think its admorable.

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I think he was being stupid
he knew he needed surgery and he played again

any player knowing he needs surgery and puts it off to play in the games
is stupid
even if it was david robinson my favorite player

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Originally Posted by ducks

kori is the one that said you can not judge manu not me

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excuses! excuses! :lol

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Originally Posted by batman2883

Here's The Cold Hard Facts, Spurs Wanted Him To Rest....he Didnt, His Foot Would Have Needed Surgery Either Way, It Wasnt Getting Any Better Or Worse.....end Of The Story Is Id Rather Have Him Get The Surgery Now Rather Than At The Beggining Of The Season And Have Him Gone Most Of The Entire Season...this Is A Blessing In Disguise

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so you agree he needed surgery so putting off the surgery hurt the spurs
I can agree with you on that

No I Agree That He Wouldnt Have Opted For Surgery...he Would Have Just Rested It Thinking Thats All It Needed Then Come The Season He Would Have Reaggrevated That Injury And Thus Would Have Caused Him To Have The Surgery During The Season........id Rather Have Him Realize He Needed It Before The Season Starts Than During The Season Thats My Point

I agree you can't tell Manu what to or what not to do during the offseason. The Spurs pay him to play during the season and then "ask" him not to play in the Olympics. He chose to do so and now he has to live with the consequences.

1) The ball is in the Spurs court now. They have a BUSINESS decision to make. Nobody can fault the FO for trading Manu if they decide to. The reality is Manu's decision could have cost the Spurs the season, there's no denying that. The Spurs have to decide whether or not they want to just write off this season or just take a chance and hope everything works out.

2) Again, it was Manu's decision, nobody had the right to make that decision except for him. It's his free time, he's on his own clock. It really comes to is money more important or representing your country...a very hard decision to make when you're the top player from a small country.

3) Both sides are paying the price for this injury. Spurs may be screwed this season...they are already looking shopping for a replacement. Manu may get traded and already extension talks have been put on hold.

Just like you can't blame Manu for playing the Olympics, you can't blame the Spurs if they decide to trade him to recoup their investment and possibly the season.

must be reading Spurstalk.

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Originally Posted by Allanon

I agree you can't tell Manu what to or what not to do during the offseason. The Spurs pay him to play during the season and then "ask" him not to play in the Olympics. He chose to do so and now he has to live with the consequences.

1) The ball is in the Spurs court now. They have a BUSINESS decision to make. Nobody can fault the FO for trading Manu if they decide to. The reality is Manu's decision could have cost the Spurs the season, there's no denying that. The Spurs have to decide whether or not they want to just write off this season or just take a chance and hope everything works out.

2) Again, it was Manu's decision, nobody had the right to make that decision except for him. It's his free time, he's on his own clock. It really comes to is money more important or representing your country...a very hard decision to make when you're the top player from a small country.

3) Both sides are paying the price for this injury. Spurs may be screwed this season...they are already looking shopping for a replacement. Manu may get traded and already extension talks have been put on hold.

Just like you can't blame Manu for playing the Olympics, you can't blame the Spurs if they decide to trade him to recoup their investment and possibly the season.

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you can put clauses in his next contract though

teams put clauses players can not ride motorcyles and things

you can tell manu some things he can not do during the offseason