ted kennedy taken to hospital

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Originally Posted by whottt

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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GET HIM!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Shastafarian

You seem to know so much about it. "There's evidence there was enough air trapped in the vehicle for Mary Jo Kopeckne to have lived quit a long time". Got a link to such information?

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http://www.ytedk.com/waterlevels2.gif
- Inquest Exhibit # 14 -

- Sketch of Mary Jo Kopechne's position in the accident car prepared under the direction of scuba diver John Farrar.
- Farrar believed that the car initially contained a large pocket of trapped air, represented by the original water level.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

http://www.ytedk.com/waterlevels2.gif
- Inquest Exhibit # 14 -

- Sketch of Mary Jo Kopechne's position in the accident car prepared under the direction of scuba diver John Farrar.
- Farrar believed that the car initially contained a large pocket of trapped air, represented by the original water level.

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Link? I'd like to see how much he "believed" there was a pocket of air.

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Originally Posted by whottt

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Hes a high ranking famous senator.

It was a once in a lifetime oppurtunity.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

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We're sorry this video is no longer available.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Hes a high ranking famous senator.

It was a once in a lifetime oppurtunity.

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There are a hundred of them, a third of whom are up for election every 2 years...meet a more respectable one and cherish the experience.

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Originally Posted by Shastafarian

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hdhLG0g6A

Try that.

I think the scuba diver testified at inquest that there could have been as much as two hours of air.

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There are a hundred of them, a third of whom are up for election every 2 years...meet a more respectable one and cherish the experience.

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Hook up the meeting and I would.

I was with a volunteer organization and he supported our organization 1000% and I was happy to meet him.


Hell I was on the steps of the capital building and got to shake his hand and was photographed.

I mean, come on, again, thats a once in a lifetime oppurtunity.

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/our-col...-fortune,1177/

key graf:

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A diver was sent down and discovered Kopechne’s body. At the inquest, the diver, John Farrar, testified that Kopechne’s body was pressed up in the car in the spot where an air bubble had been presumably formed. The inquest said the bubble could have allowed her to breathe for two hours afer the accident. Farrar testified: “Had I received a call within five to ten minutes of trhe accident…and was able as I was the following morning to be at the victim’s side within 25 minutes of receiving the call…there is a strong possibility that she would have been alive on removal from the submerged car.” Kennedy’s dithering, cowardice and emotional paralysis…fear of political retribution…led to the stall, most say.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hdhLG0g6A

Try that.

I think the scuba diver testified at inquest that there could have been as much as two hours of air.

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How could he possibly know? When he found the car it was full of water. Is he basing these thoughts on her position when she was found?

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Originally Posted by Shastafarian

How could he possibly know? When he found the car it was full of water. Is he basing these thoughts on her position when she was found?

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Point is, Kennedy might have saved her life if he had called for help. He decided his political career was more important than Mary Jo Kopeckne.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Hes a high ranking famous senator.

It was a once in a lifetime oppurtunity.

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False...getting in the car with Kennedy is the once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Originally Posted by whottt

False...getting in the car with Kennedy is the once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Funny, but I have no shame in shaking the hand of a famous senator thats seen as much US History as he is.

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Originally Posted by whottt

False...getting in the car with Kennedy is the once in a lifetime opportunity.

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More like a last in a lifetime opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Not my place to forgive him for that.

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Why not? Because he didn't do it to you or yours?

Forgiveness isn't for the transgressor, it's for you. This is something that happened like 40+ years ago to people strange to you, and you still harbor obvious bitterness when you weren't even involved. He was an over privileged kid from a richer family who panicked when he got into a bind. He also never advanced further in politics. Let it go.

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Originally Posted by ChuckD

Why not? Because he didn't do it to you or yours?

Forgiveness isn't for the transgressor, it's for you. This is something that happened like 40+ years ago to people strange to you, and you still harbor obvious bitterness when you weren't even involved. He was an over privileged kid from a richer family who panicked when he got into a bind. He also never advanced further in politics. Let it go.

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What makes you think I'm bitter...I just find it somewhat incredible that people hold this man in high esteem.

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What makes you think I'm bitter...I just find it somewhat incredible that people hold this man in high esteem.

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Do you hold George W. Bush in high esteem?

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Do you hold George W. Bush in high esteem?

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Ya see that presents a problem. I'm guessing you think the Iraq War was more than justified but a whole heap of people think we were lied to (WMD's, Saddam's capabilities). Lemme guess. The original "WMD/Saddam is a threat" justification doesn't mean a thing to you. OVer 4,000 US troops have died for what exactly?

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Ya see that presents a problem. I'm guessing you think the Iraq War was more than justified but a whole heap of people think we were lied to (WMD's, Saddam's capabilities). Lemme guess. The original "WMD/Saddam is a threat" justification doesn't mean a thing to you. OVer 4,000 US troops have died for what exactly?

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You're right, we don't agree. Feel free to hold George Bush in low esteem and attack him at every turn...you have my permission. Oh wait, you've been doing that.

Carry on.

And comparing the decisions and judgements of the Commander in Chief with those of a drunk who just ran his car into a pond is a bit of a stretch. But, since you have. Find me one person that agrees with Ted Kennedy's decision that night. Yeah.

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Originally Posted by T Park

I mean, come on, again, thats a once in a lifetime oppurtunity.

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False...getting in the car with Kennedy is the once in a lifetime opportunity.

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!!! :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

You're right, we don't agree. Feel free to hold George Bush in low esteem and attack him at every turn...you have my permission. Oh wait, you've been doing that.

Carry on.

And comparing the decisions and judgements of the Commander in Chief with those of a drunk who just ran his car into a pond is a bit of a stretch. But, since you have. Find me one person that agrees with Ted Kennedy's decision that night. Yeah.

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You're right. According to you Kennedy got one person killed that night. Mr. Bush's decisions have gotten over 4,000 americans killed. And I believe this is the only time I've attacked Mr. Bush. "You've been doing that" is a bit of a stretch.

So...why have so many people died in Iraq?

time to anwser some questions

-----God.

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Originally Posted by clambake

you just made somebody's shit list.

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:huh