1st Presidential Debate Blog

Obama's Goals

- Make McCain get pissed off. Somehow make him blow his top without going over the top. Don't gamble too much with this.

-Cut the answers shorter and too the point. I like the fact that you know your shit, but the rest of the Americans don't.

-Score some zingers! Make the audience laugh if possible. Be as affiable as possible.

-Most importantly - if you do NONE of the above, do not burn an American flag, praise Alah, or take a dump on a manger set. Do this and you should be fine.

McCain's Goals

-Keep your temper under control. I don't care if Obama says your mother sucked his dick, don't lose it.



I don't know what else McCain needs to do really, and I'm biased anyway so someone else feel free.

McCain's goals:

- Keep focus on foreign policy, where your experience far outweighs Obama's.
- Try to keep 'POW' mentions under five.
- Throw in a 'well, there you go again' when Obama relates a canard you can easily disprove. The old guard 'pubs will love it.

Bring it on. :corn:

Oh oh oh, whats the overunder on POW mentions? I don't think he will bring it up much, so I'm going to set the line low at 3.5.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Bring it on. :corn:

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I'm curious have you decided who you are voting for?

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I'm curious have you decided who you are voting for?

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Not me. I've been going back and forth. It's a tough, tough decision. It may take all four debates before I've truly decided.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

Not me. I've been going back and forth. It's a tough, tough decision. It may take all four debates before I've truly decided.

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:lol

you're about as undecided as I am white.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I'm curious have you decided who you are voting for?

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I haven't.

Obama's remark about "not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby" was a major strike against him in my mind.

However, I am not sold on McCain. His time as POW is to his credit, but that was then and I need to know what sort of man he is now.

I am really eager for these debates because the scripts are gone and I feel like this is my first real chance to get to know the candidates.

I am giving them both a blank slate. Someone needs to earn my vote.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Oh oh oh, whats the overunder on POW mentions? I don't think he will bring it up much, so I'm going to set the line low at 3.5.

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Oh, God. I hope not!

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Obama's Goals

- Make McCain get pissed off. Somehow make him blow his top without going over the top. Don't gamble too much with this.

-Cut the answers shorter and too the point. I like the fact that you know your shit, but the rest of the Americans don't.

-Score some zingers! Make the audience laugh if possible. Be as affiable as possible.

-Most importantly - if you do NONE of the above, do not burn an American flag, praise Alah, or take a dump on a manger set. Do this and you should be fine.

McCain's Goals

-Keep your temper under control. I don't care if Obama says your mother sucked his dick, don't lose it.



I don't know what else McCain needs to do really, and I'm biased anyway so someone else feel free.

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I think McCain needs to address the current economic situation and show the public that he has a complete grasp of the issues and has solutions for them.

I think Obama needs to spend some time shoring up his perceived foreign policy experience deficit. It's a national security debate, but the economy may dominate.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

I haven't.

Obama's remark about "not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby" was a major strike against him in my mind.

However, I am not sold on McCain. His time as POW is to his credit, but that was then and I need to know what sort of man he is now.

I am really eager for these debates because the scripts are gone and I feel like this is my first real chance to get to know the candidates.

I am giving them both a blank slate. Someone needs to earn my vote.

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Ha.

All their answers are scripted.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

:lol

you're about as undecided as I am white.

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Not true. I'm still trying to decide whether to continue sending Obama money like I have been or whether start sending him lots of money. It's a tough, tough decision.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

I think McCain needs to address the current economic situation and show the public that he has a complete grasp of the issues and has solutions for them.

I think Obama needs to spend some time shoring up his perceived foreign policy experience deficit. It's a national security debate, but the economy may dominate.

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It'll be economic based, and Obama will win it, because hes gonna say what the public wants to hear.

:lol

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Originally Posted by T Park

It'll be economic based, and Obama will win it, because hes gonna say what the public wants to hear.

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You see, and that could sway my decision in this election.

I wonder if they'll actually get McCain to commit to a stance ont he bailout. I think they'lll start directly on teh economy then get to the topic the debate was supposed to be.

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN HAS ALREADY WON THE DEBATE! AND THE ELECTION!

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I wonder if they'll actually get McCain to commit to a stance ont he bailout. I think they'lll start directly on teh economy then get to the topic the debate was supposed to be.

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I would think that Lehrer would try to get that out of McCain. The media kept mentioning McCain's reluctance to reveal his position today. I don't see how Lehrer wouldn't explore that issue.

I wonder what kind of pressure these moderators are under from their peers to ask the questions that are lingering in the media-at-large. In other words, if Lehrer doesn't get in to some of these issues, will Bob Schieffer or Tom Brokaw think less of him? And, if so, does Lehrer care enough to let it determine the questions he asks?

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN HAS ALREADY WON THE DEBATE! AND THE ELECTION!

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Aw man. I must be getting the West Coast feed....:depressed

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

I would think that Lehrer would try to get that out of McCain. The media kept mentioning McCain's reluctance to reveal his position today. I don't see how Lehrer wouldn't explore that issue.

I wonder what kind of pressure these moderators are under from their peers to ask the questions that are lingering in the media-at-large. In other words, if Lehrer doesn't get in to some of these issues, will Bob Schieffer or Tom Brokaw think less of him? And, if so, does Lehrer care enough to let it determine the questions he asks?

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Whatever his politics -- and I don't know them -- I don't think Jim Lehrer is one to be pushed around by others in the media or, quite frankly, much care what they think.

BTW the CNN HD feed sounds pretty awesome. They're going to have a few features that seem neat.

Oh, and I'll be on cheater watch!!!

IPODGATE????

http://www.visualfuturist.com/bushis...ired-large.jpg

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Originally Posted by T Park

Ha.

All their answers are scripted.

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But at least the atmosphere will be less controlled than it was at the conventions.

I hate pundits for the most part, but I love the technology these guys use. The maps with the breakdowns and the vast amount of information they are able to show at a moments notice is awesome.

I'm looking forward to the reports from Spin Alley telling me who won the debate. I'll bet we'll have some conflicting reports.....

They apparently didn't get the memo McCain won. They're so behind.

I'm also looking forward to the focus groups of "undecided" voters from some swing state (Ohio, perhaps?) that will tell me what issues were important to them during the debates and the media narrative that will result from it.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

I'm looking forward to the reports from Spin Alley telling me who won the debate. I'll bet we'll have some conflicting reports.....

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Fox News: McCain is the clear winner here.

Olbermann: There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Barak Obama wins the first presidential debate.

I'm also looking forward to the meta-analysis that we'll get from the pundits after the debates, asking questions like "So who will we be saying won tomorrow?" or "What moments from this debate will we be talking about tomorrow?" or "What narrative will we be discussing tomorrow?".

It throws me into a state of bewilderment and confusion every time they do that (and I guess I like being in a state of bewilderment and confusion).

I mean, isn't it an admission that they have no control over their analysis and merely repeat what others are saying.

how many debates do they usually do?

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Originally Posted by Shelly

how many debates do they usually do?

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I think three Presidential debates and one VP debate is the norm.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Obama's remark about "not wanting his daughters to be punished with a baby" was a major strike against him in my mind.

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Why? Firstly, he also said getting an STD for having unprotected sex at 15 or 16 is a punishment too.

But back to your comment. Why would he get a strike for stating the obvious? At 15 or 16, having a kid isn't a "present", unless you're a celebrity with enough money and nannies to birth 25 babies at once with no foreseeable problem, it's a result for being stupid and not using protection. No kid, unless warped by their environment says at 14 or 15 or 16 "Yay! I'm pregnant!"

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Originally Posted by Shelly

how many debates do they usually do?

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There's three Presidential debates and one VP debate.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

BTW the CNN HD feed sounds pretty awesome.

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Well, we know what memo you received...

Am I the only one who finds Michelle Obama extremely hot?

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Am I the only one who finds Michelle Obama extremely hot?

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Yes...well, you and Barak...maybe.

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

There's three Presidential debates and one VP debate.

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I know the VP is Oct 2? When are the other presidential debates scheduled?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Well, we know what memo you received...

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:lol

No, I would prefer to watch it on MSNBC but I don't have them in HD and I just saw the features CNN is running.

They just have some cool features, does FoxNews have anything that compares?

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Originally Posted by Yonivore

Well, we know what memo you received...

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Manny's not an undecided voter like whott and I are.

Oh, that's right, whott just decided very recently who to support.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

:lol

No, I would prefer to watch it on MSNBC but I don't have them in HD and I just saw the features CNN is running.

They just have some cool features, does FoxNews have anything that compares?

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I don't get FoxNews...

I just made the connection between this vid and you "memo" comment a few posts later and chuckled. Thought I'd throw it up.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

:lol

No, I would prefer to watch it on MSNBC but I don't have them in HD and I just saw the features CNN is running.

They just have some cool features, does FoxNews have anything that compares?

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Does Fox News have an HD channel on Time Warner? Can I watch the Deuce in HD?

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

Does Fox News have an HD channel on Time Warner? Can I watch the Duce in HD?

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The Duce?

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

Why? Firstly, he also said getting an STD for having unprotected sex at 15 or 16 is a punishment too.

But back to your comment. Why would he get a strike for stating the obvious? At 15 or 16, having a kid isn't a "gift", unless you're a celebrity with enough money and nannies to birth 25 babies at once with no foreseeable problem, it's a result for being stupid and not using protection. No kid, unless warped by their environment says at 14 or 15 or 16 "Yay! I'm pregnant!"

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Senator Obama's phrasing was poor to call the baby a punishment.

A baby outside of marriage is consequence of premarital sex- yes. It is the parents of the baby's fault; in no way is the baby to blame.
And never, according to my belief, should the baby be aborted in order to "fix" things.

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Originally Posted by Shastafarian

The Duce?

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Steve "The Deuce" Doocy.

misspelled in original.

Yeah, Fox news and CNN are the two HD news feeds on TW here in SA.

Here we go....

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody

Steve "The Deuce" Doocy.

misspelled in original.

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I figured that's who you meant. That guy is such an idiot. I tried watching Fox and Friends. It's unwatchable. Those people are so dumb. After the SNL opener, Ducey actually said something like, "That can't be legal can it?"

I'm watching on C-SPAN,

Let's get it on!!!!

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Originally Posted by JoeChalupa

I'm watching on C-SPAN,

Let's get it on!!!!

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Ditto

...and here we go...

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Yeah, Fox news and CNN are the two HD news feeds on TW here in SA.

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The CNN HD feed has that pundit barometer. I don't think I can take that the entire debate. Switching to PBS HD.

McCain hit a home run with that handshake.

Obama said "Old Miss" instead of "Ole Miss". He loses.

Are they reading off teleprompters?

Obama's got a flag pin on.

Obama 1
McCain 0

Freudian slip there with the "IF the economy comes back".

Was obama reading off a teleprompter?

McCain is socring points with that schtick.

:lol Senator McCain making age jokes about himself.

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Originally Posted by Anti.Hero

Was obama reading off a teleprompter?

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The text is written in lemon juice on Jim Lehrer's head. When he gets close to the stage light, it turns brown.

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Originally Posted by Anti.Hero

Was obama reading off a teleprompter?

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No....

Pulled a Regan with the making the age a joke thing.

Well played, worked for him in 84.

Senator McCain seems to be using a lot of words to say very little.

Lehrer is kicking ass.

EDITED: alright, I'll stop

McCain's opening statement was a lot of rambling.

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Senator McCain seems to be using a lot of words to say very little.

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Read my mind.

...here it cooooooomes...

I "miss"ed that.

McCain committed to voting for the plan.

Should we take a shot every time Obama says Main Street?

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Originally Posted by angel_luv

Senator McCain seems to be using a lot of words to say very little.

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And Obama is saying the same stuff he's been saying for months. Very broad, no substance.

Leher ftw so far.

Fundamentals of the economy smack!

Obama does need to look at McCain in the eye.

Obama's advisers must have told him to harp on the underlying Republican economic theories. He keeps going back to that.

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Originally Posted by Anti.Hero

And Obama is saying the same stuff he's been saying for months. Very broad, no substance.

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Because he's staying the course.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Should we take a shot every time Obama says Main Street?

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I'd be drunk already.

Now McCain starts in with the Wall/Main street rhetoric.

They both seem nervous

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Originally Posted by Findog

They both seem nervous

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Extremely.


Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Anti.Hero

And Obama is saying the same stuff he's been saying for months. Very broad, no substance.

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I agree.

Neither of the Senators has really impressed me.
I am hoping to at least discover that one is distinctly the lesser of two evils.

"Fundamental" count

Obama - 2
McCain - 3
Lehrer - 2

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Originally Posted by Findog

They both seem nervous

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Sorry, nobody seems nervous after seeing the Palin interviews.

Everyone is pussy-footing, afraid to slip up. Lehrer is going to have them mix it up before this is all over.

McCain goes back to bear DNA shtick.

3 million on bears when Palin did 3 million on crabs?

Cmon McCain.

McCain is using the same old lines too.

The thing about these debates to me is it is all campaign promises. There is no guarantee that either of these gentlemen will follow through on anything they have memorized... I mean said :lol ...so electing either is a risk.

Here goes.

Uh oh McCain just mentioned some silly wildlife spending...look for people to call him on that in the morning (Palin and seal genetics).

I got a pen...:lol

Palin had crabs? Fuck, there goes the MILF vote.

" Fundamental"- Senator Obama

If the top isn't growing, the bottom will grow?

Tax cuts will be great when people are getting laid off to cut costs for new taxes. Awesome.

Looking every bit of inexperienced.

Senator McCain " I don't mean to go back and forth."

:lol It's a DEBATE!

Sheriff McCain!!!!

"Sheriff", "Miss Congeniality"..."Maverick"?

" Fundamental"- when did Tim Duncan become a catch phrase in politics?

Fuck, it's like both candidates are just reciting their commercials.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN HAS ALREADY WON THE DEBATE! AND THE ELECTION!

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/i...eatdebater.jpg

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Obama's shaking off the nerves and hitting as a stride!!!