If Obama wins

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Originally Posted by boutons_

Whott impugning a vet's patriotism, typical right wing slime.

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Originally Posted by boutons_

McSame, McSenile, McFlop, McWorse, McCarthy Charlie, McFlop

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Shut the fuck up boutons.

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Originally Posted by JoeChalupa

The Country that I've served with honor.

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Um...America has never been a far left country, EVER. So I have difficult time believing that is the country you love.

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Originally Posted by whottt

Um...America has never been a far left country, EVER. So I have difficult time believing that is the country you love.

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God you are such a prick.

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Originally Posted by whottt

Um...America has never been a far left country, EVER. So I have difficult time believing that is the country you love.

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Stay classy, whot.

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Originally Posted by Findog

Stay classy, whot.

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This is like saying, "You stay pure, Paris Hilton".

"Shut the fuck up boutons."

make me, you dickless, fake-macho chickenshit

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Originally Posted by Shastafarian

This is like saying, "You stay pure, Paris Hilton".

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Or "You stay even-tempered and cool under fire, Senator McCain."

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Originally Posted by whottt

Um...America has never been a far left country, EVER. So I have difficult time believing that is the country you love.

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Seriously, what the fuck is your problem? Are you just petulant because the writing is on the wall?

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Originally Posted by PixelPusher

Did you know Obama fathered a black baby in wed-lock?

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Barack Obama plays basketball. Charles Barkley plays basketball. Is Charles Barkley qualified to run our economy? He lost millions gambling in Las Vegas. Don't let Barack Obama gamble with our economy.

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Originally Posted by Findog

Stay classy, whot.

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He's the one trolling behind his service...not me.

But anyway...

State Controlled Media is what makes America great. Right on!

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Originally Posted by whottt

He's the one trolling behind his service...not me.

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I can just imagine your reaction if some liberal jumped a vet for loving his "right-wing, fascist" America because of his service in Iraq.

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Originally Posted by Findog

I can just imagine your reaction if some liberal jumped a vet for loving his "right-wing, fascist" America because of his service in Iraq.

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You go ahead and imgaine it all you want...after all, I'm the one that uses strawmen right?

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Originally Posted by whottt

You go ahead and imgaine it all you want...after all, I'm the one that uses strawmen right?

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Patriotism doesn't belong to any political party or philosophy. It's repugnant to wrap yourself in the flag to attack others.

anyone who votes for mccain should have to ride the short bus to work and take counseling

he came across as so ignorant last night in the debate, got completely owned, and couldn't even make eye contact with obama

And then there are the idiots LEFT behind.

That believe:

1) Any war is a good war.
2) Any media that doesn't reports facts that agree with their myopic views is liberal-biased.
3) Any government regulation is bad (no food safety, no workplace safety, polluted air and water, de-regulated banks).
4) Lobbyists should be appointed where possible to facilitate "bidness."
5) This is a Christian nation and we should have our version of sharia-type laws to govern it by.

So are you conceding defeat whottt?

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Originally Posted by mavs>spurs

he came across as so ignorant last night in the debate,

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:lmao for someone so ignorant Obama sure did agree with him...often.

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Originally Posted by Findog

Patriotism doesn't belong to any philosophy.

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The fuck it doesn't.

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It's repugnant to wrap yourself in the flag to attack others.

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It's repugnant to call fear, ambivalence and indifference liberalism.

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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter

My opinion of McCain was actually much better in '00, but maybe I didn't follow his campaign closely enough. I see him now as bitter and irascible when prodded. He was visibly angry during the debate and didn't even have the decency to look Obama in the eye as he was addressing him. I'm sorry that does bother me, and it shows exactly how would treat foreign leaders he disagreed with.

If he can't look at his fellow senators across the aisle how the fuck do you think he's going to broker any sort of peace in this world with countries we don't necessarily agree with?

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It was a campaign tactic (not strategy) that I don't think says much of anything about his diplomatic skills. But you're entitled to your opinion.

I'm actually putting little stock in his overall campaigning because he frankly sucks at it (see McCain v2000). Most of the decisions he's made to this point have been to his detriment, yet he still finds himself in the running.

It's because he's a good man who has conviction and votes his conscience regardless of political ramification....that's admirable and voteworthy.

That and I also happen to agree with him on most of his positions.

You can find fault with his appearance or perceived attitude if you'd like though. That's what I love about this country.

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

It was a campaign tactic (not strategy) that I don't think says much of anything about his diplomatic skills. But you're entitled to your opinion.

I'm actually putting little stock in his overall campaigning because he frankly sucks at it (see McCain v2000). Most of the decisions he's made to this point have been to his detriment, yet he still finds himself in the running.

It's because he's a good man who has conviction and votes his conscience regardless of political ramification....that's admirable and voteworthy.

That and I also happen to agree with him on most of his positions.

You can find fault with his appearance or perceived attitude if you'd like though. That's what I love about this country.

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A good man yes. No question. Honest intentions, absolutely.

Still I think his approach to foreign policy is fundamentally wrong. By all accounts he is more hawkish than Bush. That approach just doesn't work in the 21st century. We have to work to find common ground, even with our enemies, because pure silence only exacerbates the problem.

I believe Obama will do a better job of repairing our reputation around the world and getting leaders of countries we are in disagreement with to compromise.

What I am going to enjoy is to see the whotts and yonis of the world moan and groan for 8 yrs....

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Originally Posted by George Gervin's Afro

What I am going to enjoy is to see the whotts and yonis of the world moan and groan for 8 yrs....

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If Obama truly brings the change he has talked about bringing, they won't be the only two.

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Originally Posted by Anti.Hero

If Obama truly brings the change he has talked about bringing, they won't be the only two.

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Oh I know! Stop teasing me!

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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter

A good man yes. No question. Honest intentions, absolutely.

Still I think his approach to foreign policy is fundamentally wrong. By all accounts he is more hawkish than Bush. That approach just doesn't work in the 21st century. We have to work to find common ground, even with our enemies, because pure silence only exacerbates the problem.

I believe Obama will do a better job of repairing our reputation around the world and getting leaders of countries we are in disagreement with to compromise.

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I think his military background and tough talk on Iran give the perception that he's a hawk, but I'm not sure I'd call him "more hawkish than Bush".

In truth, the military actually teaches the use of social, economic and political leverage when dealing with enemies. They also teach about military history and learning lessons from past conflicts. In fact, McCain is intimately familiar with one of the more failed policies of an administration and how it cost the lives of many service men and women.

Given that, I just find it hard to believe he would foolishly rush into a conflict (a la Bush) without considering all available options and the consequences.

But I can certainly see how the perception of the two differs and agree that Obama would probably be viewed by the world as the better diplomat.