Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by ploto
Where have you been? This playing Palin as some victim who is more scrutinized than the rest is hilarious. I can assure you- if Obama was speaking that incoherently people would be talking about it.
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Can someone find me an instance in US history where a candidate was asked to list the periodicals they read?
thanks
Is it a tough question? Maybe no one asked it before because no one assumed the candidate couldn't answer it.
10-01-2008
I Love Me Some Me
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by ploto
Where have you been? This playing Palin as some victim who is more scrutinized than the rest is hilarious. I can assure you- if Obama was speaking that incoherently people would be talking about it.
Post an Obama quote with all his "uhhh"s and "ummmmm"s typed out and it would be a little less coherent than we all think.
And I didn't portray Palin as a victim. I said, specifically, that she needed to prove herself in the upcoming debate. BUT...she is scrutinized more, and she is asked questions I don't remember any other candidate being asked.
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Findog
Just read the transcript of the new Palin interview with Couric. To sum up, she couldn't name a single current events magazine that she reads when asked, couldn't name Time, Newsweek or US News and World Report. Hell, does People count?
What a stupid question. Why does it matter that she doesn't read these?
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Originally Posted by Findog
Said a teenage girl who has been raped by her father should carry the baby to term. She also seemed confused about what RU-486 is.
So, that's her opinion and doesn't mean she imposes it of others. Seems confused? What's the link to the transcript please.
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Originally Posted by Findog
When asked about homosexuality, said her best friend is a lesbo and had "made a choice" she didn't agree with, but they were friends nonetheless.
What's wrong with that? That's how I feel. I disagree with the lifestyle, but I don't shun the people I know for such choices.
10-01-2008
Findog
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Can someone find me an instance in US history where a candidate was asked to list the periodicals they read?
thanks
She was asked where she gets her news. Is she so dumb she can't list Time or Newsweek?
I suppose she didn't want to tell the truth and answer Newsmax or freerepublic.com
10-01-2008
DarrinS
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Findog
She was asked where she gets her news. Is she so dumb she can't list Time or Newsweek?
I suppose she didn't want to tell the truth and answer Newsmax or freerepublic.com
Who's ever been asked that?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
What's wrong with that? That's how I feel. I disagree with the lifestyle, but I don't shun the people I know for such choices.
I see you missed the purpose of what Findog said. Almost all gay people I know of tell me it ISN'T a choice.
10-01-2008
DarrinS
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Shastafarian
Is it a tough question? Maybe no one asked it before because no one assumed the candidate couldn't answer it.
It's not a tough question, it's a dumb question.
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Who's ever been asked that?
Who gives a shit? It's an easy question. Are you saying it was "gotcha journalism"? :lol
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
It's not a tough question, it's a dumb question.
Irrelevant. She couldn't answer it. It being a dumb question doesn't matter. Unless she was purposefully trying to look like an idiot to stick it to Couric for asking a "dumb" question.
10-01-2008
DarrinS
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
Paper or plastic?
10-01-2008
DarrinS
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
What if she were asked a REAL question and she just answered "That's above my pay grade."?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
What if she were asked a REAL question and she just answered "That's above my pay grade."?
Obama was asked when life begins. Maybe you presume to know but he didn't want to answer definitively. Oh he was also at a fucking church.
10-01-2008
Findog
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
What a stupid question. Why does it matter that she doesn't read these?
Considering how incoherent and stupid she has come across, it's a fair question to ask her what news sources she consumes. All she had to do was say Time or Newsweek and we wouldn't be talking about this.
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So, that's her opinion and doesn't mean she imposes it of others. Seems confused? What's the link to the transcript please.
Couric: If a 15-year-old is raped by her father, do you believe it should be illegal for her to get an abortion, and why?
Palin: I am pro-life. And I'm unapologetic in my position that I am pro-life. And I understand there are good people on both sides of the abortion debate. In fact, good people in my own family have differing views on abortion, and when it should be allowed. Do I respect people's opinions on this. Now, I would counsel to choose life. I would also like to see a culture of life in this country. But I would also like to take it one step further. Not just saying I am pro-life and I want fewer and fewer abortions in this country, but I want them, those women who find themselves in circumstances that are absolutely less than ideal, for them to be supported, and adoptions made easier.
Couric: But ideally, you think it should be illegal for a girl who was raped or the victim of incest to get an abortion?
Palin: I'm saying that, personally, I would counsel the person to choose life, despite horrific, horrific circumstances that this person would find themselves in. And, um, if you're asking, though, kind of foundationally here, should anyone end up in jail for having an … abortion, absolutely not. That's nothing I would ever support.
Couric: Some people have credited the morning-after pill for decreasing the number of abortions. How do you feel about the morning-after pill?
Palin: Well, I am all for contraception. And I am all for preventative measures that are legal and save, and should be taken, but Katie, again, I am one to believe that life starts at the moment of conception. And I would like to see …
Couric: And so you don't believe in the morning-after pill?
Palin: ... I would like to see fewer and fewer abortions in this world. And again, I haven't spoken with anyone who disagrees with my position on that.
Couric: I'm sorry, I just want to ask you again. Do you not support or do you condone or condemn the morning-after pill.
Palin: Personally, and this isn't McCain-Palin policy …
Couric: No, that's OK, I'm just asking you.
Palin: But personally, I would not choose to participate in that kind of contraception.
Nobody is talking about throwing abortion recipients in jail. It's not out of the mainstream to be pro-life, but being against abortion when a teenage girl is the victim of incest, that is pretty hard to stomach.
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What's wrong with that? That's how I feel. I disagree with the lifestyle, but I don't shun the people I know for such choices
It's not a "choice." It's hard-wired from birth. Science has pretty much covered this. And it's easy to see that from there, a person can say "Hey, you can stop being discriminated against as soon as you stop being gay."
And man, oh man, I made it through fifth grade, so I can at least answer "Brown vs. Board of Education."
Why is it so hard to admit she's not qualified? Why is so hard to admit she's entered the "Eagleton Zone" and replace her with Susan Collins, Liddy Dole, Kay Bailey or some other GOP vayjayjay?
10-01-2008
Aggie Hoopsfan
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter
The difference is Obama is wise beyond his years.
President of Harvard Law Review (the 1st African American president)
Constitutional Law Professor (1992-2004)
United States Senator (2004-Present)
There is no question this man knows our Constitution and knows how our government works. He knows the global world we live in and the threat of terrorism through his work on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Obama will be ready to go on Day 1, and any shortcomings he may have in foreign affairs will be picked up by his Vice President Joe Biden who has an even more impressive record than McCain in this regard. Obama picked his VP to shore up his own shortcomings for the betterment of this nation, McCain picked his to win an election.
I'm sick and tired of Republicans using this executive experience nonsense argument. Sarah Palin is not wise, she's not well read, she has little understanding of how the world works in comparison to any of the other candidates running. Quite frankly she has no business running for the office she seeks. We've had 8 years of an "average joe" president and it's led to disastrous results. Let's not make the same mistake again.
When the National Review is calling for you to step down, you know you are not qualified
If he is so constitutional, why is he so adamantly opposed to the first and second amendments?
He has his lawyers running around trying to attempt to silence anyone who opposes him (1st amendment), and every piece of legislation he has supported in reference to gun rights goes against every fiber of the second.
So give me a fucking break, quit shoveling bullshit.
10-01-2008
Aggie Hoopsfan
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by I Love Me Some Me
Post an Obama quote with all his "uhhh"s and "ummmmm"s typed out and it would be a little less coherent than we all think.
And I didn't portray Palin as a victim. I said, specifically, that she needed to prove herself in the upcoming debate. BUT...she is scrutinized more, and she is asked questions I don't remember any other candidate being asked.
Come on, grilling Palin while Biden gets asked what he wanted to be when he grew up as a little kid is totally fair and unbiased coverage by Charlie Gibson.
10-01-2008
Findog
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
Correction: She was asked what SC case she disagreed with besides R v. W. I don't disagree with B vs Board, but good fucking god, she's never heard of Dredd Scott?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
If he is so constitutional, why is he so adamantly opposed to the first and second amendments?
He has his lawyers running around trying to attempt to silence anyone who opposes him (1st amendment), and every piece of legislation he has supported in reference to gun rights goes against every fiber of the second.
So give me a fucking break, quit shoveling bullshit.
Some of his people were looking for ethics laws violations. Ethics LAWS. I also missed the part of the bill of rights where it says, "you have the right to bear assault weapons." Maybe we should read it literally. You can only have flintcock pistols and muskets. There, stop bitching about your M-16.
10-01-2008
Findog
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
Supreme Court in what respect, Katie?
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Findog
Considering how incoherent and stupid she has come across, it's a fair question to ask her what news sources she consumes. All she had to do was say Time or Newsweek and we wouldn't be talking about this.
I see nothing stupid about the quotes you posted. She simply answerd in her own way, and it doesn't help to be cut off before she finishes.
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Originally Posted by Findog
Nobody is talking about throwing abortion recipients in jail. It's not out of the mainstream to be pro-life, but being against abortion when a teenage girl is the victim of incest, that is pretty hard to stomach.
And she gave her opinion. She stated it well. She would council of adoption. She never said she would eliminate legal abortion.
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Originally Posted by Findog
It's not a "choice." It's hard-wired from birth. Science has pretty much covered this. And it's easy to see that from there, a person can say "Hey, you can stop being discriminated against as soon as you stop being gay."
Let's not argue about that point. The fact is, she said she is still friends.
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Originally Posted by Findog
Why is it so hard to admit she's not qualified? Why is so hard to admit she's entered the "Eagleton Zone" and replace her with Susan Collins, Liddy Dole, Kay Bailey or some other GOP vayjayjay?
I will agree she is not as experienced in big government. That's it. She is qualified in all ways that matter, especially the fact she isn't an elitist. She knows real common people.
What executive experience does Obama have? That is a key factor in my opinion. Not being a "DC insider."
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
I will agree she is not as experienced in big government. That's it. She is qualified in all ways that matter, especially the fact she isn't an elitist. She knows real common people.
Have you ever been to Alaska?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Findog
Correction: She was asked what SC case she disagreed with besides R v. W. I don't disagree with B vs Board, but good fucking god, she's never heard of Dredd Scott?
It would've been real funny if she had said Bush v. Gore.
10-01-2008
Findog
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Shastafarian
It would've been real funny if she had said Bush v. Gore.
Actually it would've been funny if she said she disagreed with Brown. Gotta lock up Mississippi's electoral votes.
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
Findog;
Thanx for the link, but that's an edited one. Here is the complete trascript:
I do see differences and ommissions. Was the program taped and edited, or live?
Read the unedited transcript. They does clearly understands what the Morning After Pill is and does not say it should be illegal, not does she say abortion should be.
I put both in WORD documents to archive. The edited version takes 5 pages, the complete version takes 12 pages!
She does know her stuff!
Fucking editors!
10-01-2008
Findog
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Originally Posted by Wild Cobra
Findog;
Thanx for the link, but that's an edited one. Here is the complete trascript:
I do see differences and ommissions. Was the program taped and edited, or live?
Read the unedited transcript. They does clearly understands what the Morning After Pill is and does not say it should be illegal, not does she say abortion should be.
