Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
Palin: …experts are who say that it would take 20 years. As the governor of an energy-producing state, we're supplying 16, 17 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy coming from my state. And as the former chairman of the Interstate Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, the geologists, the petroleum engineers whom I speak with are saying it can be done a lot quicker than 20 years from now. And, remember ANWR is a 2,000-acre plot that's in the midst of 21 million acres. That's not where the supply of domestic energy sources is, though, necessarily. I mean, that's not the be-all, end-all. Offshore is where the supply of energy is. And we'll tap into that.
No. 3.5%. I thought she was an expert on energy?!?!?!
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
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No. 3.5%. I thought she was an expert on energy?!?!?!
Care to count the mistales Biden and Obama make?
Wow... TV during the depression...
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
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Care to count the mistales Biden and Obama make?
Wow... TV during the depression...
Only problem is Palin KEEPS saying this. She has said it at least 3 times in various interviews. So either she doesn't know or she's lying. Take your pick.
10-01-2008
nkdlunch
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at least she doesn't have Hepatitis B
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
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Only problem is Palin KEEPS saying this. She has said it at least 3 times in various interviews. So either she doesn't know or she's lying. Take your pick.
Can you show me the exact quotes and timeframes of the three remarks? Were they the same day before anyone pointed it ot, or is it more leftist propaganda?
10-01-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
Are people here really saying they need proof of Obama's intelligence?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
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Can you show me the exact quotes and timeframes of the three remarks? Were they the same day before anyone pointed it ot, or is it more leftist propaganda?
:lol leftist propaganda?
She said it in the Gibson interview, the Couric interview and here's your third
Go to the 1:38 mark
I wouldn't doubt she has said it more.
Here's the Gibson transcript:
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GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have commanded the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?
PALIN: But it is about reform of government and it's about putting government back on the side of the people, and that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.
10-01-2008
Aggie Hoopsfan
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Some of his people were looking for ethics laws violations. Ethics LAWS. I also missed the part of the bill of rights where it says, "you have the right to bear assault weapons." Maybe we should read it literally. You can only have flintcock pistols and muskets. There, stop bitching about your M-16.
Give me a fucking break. It's not about assault weapons.
* he supported a bill banning handguns in Illinois.
* he stated he backed the D.C. gun ban, which was declared unconstitutional
* he's on the record as supporting banning all semi-auto weapons. That includes handguns, or semi-auto rifles and shotguns.
* he's also favored attacking ammunition sales and making it harder to buy ammunition
* he's in favor of a U.N. treaty that wants to ban all handguns worldwide
Yep, those clearly all focus on M-16s and AK-47s. You're such a liberal hack.
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
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Give me a fucking break. It's not about assault weapons.
* he supported a bill banning handguns in Illinois.
* he stated he backed the D.C. gun ban, which was declared unconstitutional
* he's on the record as supporting banning all semi-auto weapons. That includes handguns, or semi-auto rifles and shotguns.
* he's also favored attacking ammunition sales and making it harder to buy ammunition
* he's in favor of a U.N. treaty that wants to ban all handguns worldwide
Yep, those clearly all focus on M-16s and AK-47s. You're such a liberal hack.
A liberal hack? That's rich coming from you. Maybe I just don't think it's necessary for people to have firearms. Go find me a study that shows people with guns are LESS likely to die from gunshot wounds than a person that doesn't own a gun.
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
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:lol leftist propaganda?
She said it in the Gibson interview, the Couric interview and here's your third
I wouldn't doubt she has said it more.
"Energy being tapped" specifically means oil and gas. She excludes coal, hydro, wind, etc. with that qualifier.
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
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"Energy being tapped" specifically means oil and gas. She excludes coal, hydro, wind, etc. with that qualifier.
Two things:
1) When did she say "being tapped"
2) I'd like to see where that's the accepted vernacular. "tapped" could just be a nice little filler word and considering she didn't say it when she threw out her "20%" claim I'd have to see it said in context.
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
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Two things:
1) When did she say "being tapped"
2) I'd like to see where that's the accepted vernacular. "tapped" could just be a nice little filler word and considering she didn't say it when she threw out her "20%" claim I'd have to see it said in context.
She specificall used that term when talking only about oil and gas just prior to the statement that does not specify oil and gas!
10-01-2008
101A
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Are people here really saying they need proof of Obama's intelligence?
Got any?
Seriously, what has he done?
The answer to that has been "President Harvard Law Review" - which before 1972 meant quite a bit, but since, not so much.
He is going to be the next POTUS. I cannot change that. Ease my mind. Make me feel comfortable with this. Show me where he has accomplished something of signifigance beyond self-aggrandizement. What he has run. A movement he has led (beyond on simply in support of HIM).
He was a professor of constitutional law, but has no publications. He has been a U.S. senator, but has not done anything exceptional there. Other than being an eloquent black man, what has this guy ever done to indicate he can handle the mess he's being handed?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
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She specificall used that term when talking only about oil and gas just prior to the statement that does not specify oil and gas!
...that makes no sense. She said, "Alaska currently produces about 20% of the U.S. domestic supply of energy". How on earth can you deny that she is wrong?
10-01-2008
baseline bum
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What's wrong with that? That's how I feel. I disagree with the lifestyle, but I don't shun the people I know for such choices.
It's not a make or break issue to me whether she believes sexual orientation is a choice, but I think it's a bit ignorant to claim so. Every homosexual person I've ever known tells me he/she was born that way. As a man, I've been attracted to women sexually as long as I can remember; it was never a choice, and I think there's no way in hell anyone could ever make a logical argument to convert me to the other side.
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
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...that makes no sense. She said, "Alaska currently produces about 20% of the U.S. domestic supply of energy". How on earth can you deny that she is wrong?
I don't question that. When I look at such things, I look at the complete context and timeline. Two of your examples are old. The Couric interview has her specifying oil and gas only just before making the statement. The oldest, the MTV interview, shows she was in factual error. She has been corrected, and changed her statement accordingly. Nobody is perfect, and the manner she did it, even though unclear to some, shows that she knows what she is talking about.
If you are so unforgiving of mistakes, then how badly do you hate Obama and Biden?
10-01-2008
Shastafarian
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I don't question that. When I look at such things, I look at the complete context and timeline. Two of your examples are old. The Couric interview has her specifying oil and gas only just before making the statement. The oldest, the MTV interview, shows she was in factual error. She has been corrected, and changed her statement accordingly. Nobody is perfect, and the manner she did it, even though unclear to some, shows that she knows what she is talking about.
If you are so unforgiving of mistakes, then how badly do you hate Obama and Biden?
The Gibson interview is old?!?!?!?
Again I'm not seeing what you're talking about
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Palin: …experts are who say that it would take 20 years. As the governor of an energy-producing state, we're supplying 16, 17 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy coming from my state.
10-01-2008
101A
Re: It's hilarious to see the incredible lengths Republicans go to defend Palin
I think Palin is using "energy" when she should be using "oil". Her number is exaggerated in that light, but not nearly as much.
Begs the question, however, if she knows about coal, natural gas, hydro, wind etc....
10-01-2008
Wild Cobra
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It's not a make or break issue to me whether she believes sexual orientation is a choice, but I think it's a bit ignorant to claim so. Every homosexual person I've ever known tells me he/she was born that way. As a man, I've been attracted to women sexually as long as I can remember; it was never a choice, and I think there's no way in hell anyone could ever make a logical argument to convert me to the other side.
Fine. We disagree there. There are also studies showing it is an aquired trait rather than genetic.
The most prevelant thing I noted in people I knew growing up has to do with social pressure. Before grade school end, boys and girls start noticing each other. However, this is phicically, a hormonal thing. Some teenagers still haven't had a liking for the opposite sex until high school. Hormones apply themselves at unequal timeframes. It becomes a though when social pressures become strong that people really like the same sex better. This is one of several things that can happen. With the teaching that same sex couples are OK, kids early on don't think anything about it antil after they engrain fantisies in the heads. Not the only thing, but one of several ways it does happen.
I will agree that some cases are genetic. I just don't believe that the numbers we see today can be atributed to genetics. I say more ae from aquired learning and pressure rather than genetic.
10-01-2008
Bigzax
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pssst...we're voting for President...
you some low hanging fruit pickin mothafuckas...
10-01-2008
JoeChalupa
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pssst...we're voting for President...
you some low hanging fruit pickin mothafuckas...
Pssst....the VP takes over if the Pres is down and that is one scary mothafuckin' thought.
10-01-2008
I Love Me Some Me
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Seriously.
What has Barrack Obama EVER done that leads you to believe he is ready for this job at this time?
And don't turn this around on Palin; I'm on record here questioning Palin. Are there any intellectually honest, or even curious, Barrack supporters on here?
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What leads me to believe that he isn't ready is specifically the lack of any evidence he is ready.
So, beyond his education, which everyone cites as being an indicator that he must be an intellectual heavyweight, what has Barrack Hussein Obama done, other than get elected to two positions? Tried any siginificant cases? Argue any major decisions? I'll give you that he is "electable". Beyond that, I'm not sure he is much of anything.
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Her accomplishments, and presence, do not add up to that.
Neither has Obama.
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Link.
Seriously.
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Come on, somebody present some kind of evidence that Obama is MORE than a campaigner. What has he actually done other than convince people to vote for him?
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No, that's not the point - we shouldn't need to have an opinion; there should be no question.
I find it amazing that everyone assumes Barrack has this great intellect. I'm asking for evidence.
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Obama has neither a sparkling post, or pre education cv, imo. He has electability; unless I'm missing something.
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Got any?
Seriously, what has he done?
Other than being an eloquent black man, what has this guy ever done to indicate he can handle the mess he's being handed?
Why doesn't anybody ever answer these questions?
10-01-2008
baseline bum
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pssst...we're voting for President...
you some low hanging fruit pickin mothafuckas...
I hate this argument. Palin's the one who's getting McCain his support from the base. If he gets elected and then pushes Palin off to the side, he will have no shot of being re-elected. I doubt McCain will give Palin the level of power Bush gave Cheney, but he's a guaranteed one-term president (if elected) if Palin isn't an important and powerful part of his administration.
10-01-2008
ChumpDumper
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Why doesn't anybody ever answer these questions?
Obama is quite smart.
And he's a weak candidate.
It's amazing he's ahead.
That's how badly the Republicans suck, including Palin.
10-01-2008
clambake
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how come nobody recognizes his worldwide appeal?
you guys are always bitching about other countries not shouldering any weight.
those countries were being prudent by not cooperating with bush or mccain.
