The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
His birth certificate.
I haven't posted much on it but that lawyer's suit against Obama is still in the air.
Obama was supposed to produce his birth certificate by September 24th and instead filed a motion to throw the case out at the last second...the lawyer has now filed a motion to dismiss his complaint and the motion is awaiting judgement.
My question...why doesn't Obama just produce the birth certificate?
I know why Fox and the McCain camp aren't making noise about it...because if he actually does have a birth certificate they are going to come off as complete assholes. And I could easily see Obama wanting that if he does indeed have a legit birth certificate...I mean after all, it's not in the media at all and it's basically a buried story on the internet, so why bother?
Still...the fact that he won't produce it does give plenty of reasons to question him.
And I'm sorry but him showing a website the certificate of live birth doesn't constitute satifactory proof.
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Already seen it and it's covered in the lawsuit...the lawyer says that is a fraud.
An accusation given credence due to the fact that Obama didn't show it to the court.
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
:lol @ given credence.
Ok. I believe Factcheck.org over this dude any day of the week.
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
Such a non issue. World Net Daily of all the places.
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
If it's such a non-issue why didn't he show it to the courts?
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
The court hasn't said he has to. Why give credence to this dude if you don't have to? When the court orders him to do so, he will. Until then I wouldn't expect it to be shown in court. He's already produced copies so believe what you will.
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
I have never seen whottt this desperate.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
The court hasn't said he has to. Why give credence to this dude if you don't have to?
I agree, why do it? That's exactly what he's doing by not showing it.
He could make the guy look like a complete idiot just by showing it.
I can see why he wouldn't show it even if he had it...that said, he hasn't shown it just to get rid of this nagging issue.
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When the court orders him to do so, he will. Until then I wouldn't expect it to be shown in court. He's already produced copies so believe what you will.
He's shown them to a website...a website.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I have never seen whottt this desperate.
I'm not deperate...just reading a lot of articles with a right slant usually only reserved for the left.
I can kinda see why lefties get brainwashed after a while reading this sort of shit.
That said...I'll feel better when he shows the court the birth certificate.
I know seeing it on the internet is good enough fro you...then again you once thought Beno had balls. I think that says it all right there.
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
:lmao
Yeah ok.
Shit like this is why I just need to stop taking you seriously until after the election. You've lost it.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
BTW, the reason I'm reading more articles with that sort of slant is becuase there are a bunch of Democrats voting Republican now....and they are doing to the Democrats what they did to the Republicans when they were Democrats.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
If it's on the internet it must be true
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
I'm not deperate...just reading a lot of articles with a right slant usually only reserved for the left.
I can kinda see why lefties get brainwashed after a while reading this sort of shit.
That said...I'll feel better when he shows the court the birth certificate.
Look, we both know that you are doing this because you are feeling bad about falling in love with Palin. I don't blame you -- you have never looked this bad on the internets ever. It's a very sad time for you -- but don't pretend this issue hasn't been settled long ago by people who have held this document in their hands. And don't be such a pussy as to try to change the subject to basketball.
I used to think you were better than that -- but you just lower the bar for yourself with every attempt to try to deny your love for Palin.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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And don't be such a pussy as to try to change the subject to basketball.
Sure...if you'll stop dragging Palin into every post.
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I used to think you were better than that -- but you just lower the bar for yourself with every attempt to try to deny your love for Palin.
Oh please...like you're unbiased. You've had your mind made up since 2004.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Sure...if you'll stop dragging Palin into every post.
Quit being in love with her first. That's the cause of all your desperation posting. I'm trying to help. The birth certificate issue is long dead.
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Oh please...like you're unbiased. You've had your mind made up since 2004.
I'm voting for McCain.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Beno's got...huge balls
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I'm voting for McCain.
Well I'm not necessarily sold on him after the Senate Bill today. Ron Paul is looking better and better all the time.
Then again....he banked like shit when that House Bill didn't get passed. And he's cut off his campaign with 4 mil in contributions unspent.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
You guys can accuse me of being as far gone as the average lefty when I start posting shit like this in seriousness:
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Bullshit noise.
Not changing the fact that the birth certificate issue is DOA.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Not in the courts it isn't.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Ah yes, the Philip J. Berg lawsuit.
Let me know how his RICO suit against the Bush administration for making or letting the events of 9/11 happen works out too.
You're really pathetic now, whottt. This is just fucking sad.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Ah yes, the Philip J. Berg lawsuit.
Let me know how his RICO suit against the Bush administration for making or letting the events of 9/11 happen works out too.
Different setting...he was hired by 9/11 families for that lawsuit...this one is all his own.
I mean I can see the potential for a scam here...he's accepting contributions to pursue the suit...but why doesn't Obama just show the shit and get it over with?
10-02-2008
SnakeBoy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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You guys can accuse me of being as far gone as the average lefty when I start posting shit like this in seriousness:
Hey that video is real! You can tell that Obama is Osama because he's still wearing the same suit from pakistan. And you know the photos weren't altered because it says so right in the video.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Different setting...he was hired by 9/11 families for that lawsuit...this one is all his own.
I mean I can see the potential for a scam here...he's accepting contributions to pursue the suit...but why doesn't Obama just show the shit and get it over with?
He already did.
Damn, you don't even try any more. I can't tell you how depressing this is.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
He already did.
To fact check fucking org?
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
To fact check fucking org?
Yes.
Please, whottt -- please make the trip to Chicago and request to look at and hold the document yourself.
Do it now. You obviously have nothing better to do.
You are now a fucking joke. Congratulations.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Dude, even the right wing site that started all this by rehashing Jerome Corsi's ridiculous bullshit has figured it out:
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A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Yes.
Fact check.org: owned by the Annenberg Foundation
Check the logo and the ownershipstatement at the bottom for the University of Penn where the Annenberg has a school of communication. http://factcheck.org/
Subsidiary of the Annenberg Foundation: The Chicago Annenberg Challenge
And really, if you are going to bitch about anything on the internets, I expect nothing less than your taking your pathetic ass on a plane to Chicago and/or Hawaii to get to the real noninternets truth.
And I don't expect you to post until you personally resolve what you claim is the burning issue of the election season.
Get to it.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
And really, if you are going to bitch about anything on the internets, I expect nothing less than your taking your pathetic ass on a plane to Chicago and/or Hawaii to get to the real noninternets truth.
And I don't expect you to post until you personally resolve what you claim is the burning issue of the election season.
Get to it.
Damn...you obviously didn't even read the article you posted. I suggest you read it again. Meanwhile...I'll go on wondering why Obama doesn't just show his birth certificate to the court and get it over with.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
I did.
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A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
Did you?
You are bitching about the certificate -- or are you going to try to change the subject again?
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Regardless, you'll just say it's the internet and doesn't count.
So get to it, Scoop.
Go to the source.
This is that important to you, isn't it?
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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I did.
Did you?
You are bitching about the certificate -- or are you going to try to change the subject again?
RIF:
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The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.
"Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."
The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
I bet you're really gonna get nasty now :lol
He ought to just show it to the courts. It's probably BS, but why doesn't he just show it to the fucking court?
If he'd just show it to the courts...this would be over. You know they gave him a deadline and all he had to do...was show it, and he didn't. That's entirely the reason you and I are having this dicussion.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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I bet you're really gonna get nasty now :lol
He ought to just show it to the courts. It's probably BS, but why doesn't he just show it to the fucking court?
If he'd just show it to the courts...this would be over. You know they gave him a deadline and all he had to do...was show it, and he didn't. That's entirely the reason you and I are having this dicussion.
No, the reason we are having this discussion is that you have become so desperate that you are getting sloppy and not even bothering to even google the barest details of these issues anymore.
Here's another article by folks who have seen the document.
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Originally Posted by St. Petersburg Times
At PolitiFact.com, we’re all about original sources. We don’t take anyone at their word or take the reporting of other media organizations as proof. We go to the heart of the story, the source of the truth — original, corroborating documents.
When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it’s identical). But every answer triggered more questions.
And soon enough, after going to every length possible to confirm the birth certificate’s authenticity, you start asking, what is reasonable here?
Because if this document is forged, then they all are.
If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.
So are you really going the route of the other conspiracy theorists on the forum? Really?
And just in case you were going to spout off without checking again, it's St. Petersburg, Florida.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
No, the reason we are having this discussion is that you have become so desperate that you are getting sloppy and not even bothering to even google the barest details of these issues anymore.
Sloppy? You are the asshat that has branded Palin an idiot and a liar(or some shit like that) for attempting to not give a hostile journalist a sound bite. Boy are you off...
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Here's another article by folks who have seen the document.
So like I was sayin'...should be no problem for him to take it and show it to the court. The longer he puts it off, the more the speculation is going to grow. And image is everything.
Look..
1. It's obvious this guy is a Clinton supporter that has it in for Obama and is fucking with him, trying to find anything he can get. He's trying to be a royal pain in the ass and arouse suspicion...at the least.
2. He's also taking donations to pursue the case.
But I sitll think Obama needs to show it to the court.
I try to think of the reasons he doesn't want to...
1. It won't do any good. This guy is on a pursuit for a long form birth certificate which is some kind of red tape BS Obama doesn't want to mess with in the middle of an election.
2. It'll be publicized, especially if he has to get the long form.
3. He thinks he can play it to his advantage.
4. He is pissed off and indignant it's actually gotten this far in court.
Nonthelesss...he needs to show it to the court and get it over with. It's in his best interest. IF that last article you posed it true...he should have just shown it.
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So are you really going the route of the other conspiracy theorists on the forum? Really?
And if he doesn't...you better get used to hearing about it.
It's going to continue to nag until he shows it.
Especially if the case gets dismissed.
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And just in case you were going to spout off without checking again, it's St. Petersburg, Florida.
LOL if that's your attempt to prove it's not a socialist plot you picked the wrong continent to use as an example. :lmao
The fact that it's a newspaper article written by a journalist is sufficient to arouse suspicion....regardless of Nation.
And fuck the Annenberg connection...all I have to see is that it's(factcheck) run by 3 journalists and a College Professor to be suspicious...after all, what chance is there that out of 3 journalists and a College Professor none of them are card carrying libs? :lol
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
LOL
You're the only one speculating. No one with any cred is talking about this. But sure, an issue from the summer that was long ago put to bed is now going to come up and be the focus of attention.
Why?
Because Whottt says so
Why is Palin qualified?
Because Whottt says so
Why are the polls wrong?
Because Whottt says so
And so on and so on.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
He doesn't have to show it to the court because....he doesn't have to.
No one is talking about this except Berg and you, and you are both insane.
Seriously whottt, go to Chicago. Then go to Hawaii.
Until you do so, shut the fuck up. You set the bar, you follow through.
Fucking idiot. You are a shell of the poster you once were. All because you fell in love with some bitch who will never love you back.
Read it again.
Sarah Palin will never love you.
Now get busy on those travel plans, Scoop.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Manny...as a wise group of Americans once said to me...questioning your leaders is your Patriotic duty. ;)
Man if you guys are already getting this chapped you're going to be bouncing off the walls in 4 years if Obama should win. :lmao
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
He doesn't have to show it to the court because....he doesn't have to.
No one is talking about this except Berg and you, and you are both insane.
Seriously whottt, go to Chicago. Then go to Hawaii.
Until you do so, shut the fuck up. You set the bar, you follow through.
Fucking idiot. You are a shell of the poster you once were. All because you fell in love with some bitch who will never love you back.
Read it again.
Sarah Palin will never love you.
Now get busy on those travel plans, Scoop.
Defensive much?
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Manny...as a wise group of Americans once said to me...questioning your leaders is your Patriotic duty. ;)
Man if you guys are already getting this chapped you're going to be bouncing off the walls in 4 years if Obama should win.
Yeah, we'll be starting several desperate threads a day like you.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Defensive much?
So when are you leaving town, Scoop?
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Yeah, we'll be starting several desperate threads a day like you.
Worst Chumpism ever....totally missed the target.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Worst Chumpism ever....totally missed the target.
I wouldn't be surprised. It's five in the morning and I'm trying to converse with someone who has clearly lost his shit.
Go start a thread about Obama's radical madras indoctrination.
And go to Chicago.
Dumbass.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I wouldn't be surprised. It's five in the morning and I'm trying to converse with someone who has clearly lost his shit.
I haven't lost shit...my logic is rational and reasonable. It's you that is defensive...
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Go start a thread about Obama's radical madras indoctrination.
Did you know they have a video of him in muslim garb in the 80's? No shit.
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And go to Chicago.
Dumbass.
My my...have a bit of the redass do we?
10-02-2008
ElNono
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Sloppy? You are the asshat that has branded Palin an idiot and a liar(or some shit like that) for attempting to not give a hostile journalist a sound bite. Boy are you off...
Kori just called her an airhead, and I don't see you calling her names... You know, Sarah is very disappointed that her little pet didn't defend her... PUSSY
10-02-2008
Findog
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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<grasping at straws>
10-02-2008
NASCARdad
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Whottt is becoming as much of an embarrassment as palin.
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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I have never seen whottt this desperate.
That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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I haven't lost shit...my logic is rational and reasonable. It's you that is defensive...
:lmao
"I'm rubber and you're glue...?"
:lmao
Oh, my this is better than the comics pages.
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Look the logic here is solid...
Unless Obama produces his actual birth certificate...
Anything he has produced to this point is obviosuly not real...
Ask yourself...
Who is the one with something to hide?
I mean...
I'm not the one who is running for President with the middle name 'Hussein'...
Wouldn't it at least make sense to produce a birth certificiate with a middle name other than 'Hussein' ???
That's what you Democrats don't understand... it will never work...
This is obvious and unambiguous and you just have your heads in the sand...
Why would somebody with a middle name of Hussein produce a fake birth certificate with the middle name of Hussein? Why not Robert or Joseph or Thad or some nice American-sounding name?
You Dems are just crazy thinking the American people will vote for somebody who doesn't have the common sense not to put Hussein on his fake birth certificate...
Hussein...
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Extra Stout
Look the logic here is solid...
Unless Obama produces his actual birth certificate...
Anything he has produced to this point is obviosuly not real...
Ask yourself...
Who is the one with something to hide?
I mean...
I'm not the one who is running for President with the middle name 'Hussein'...
Wouldn't it at least make sense to produce a birth certificiate with a middle name other than 'Hussein' ???
That's what you Democrats don't understand... it will never work...
This is obvious and unambiguous and you just have your heads in the sand...
Why would somebody with a middle name of Hussein produce a fake birth certificate with the middle name of Hussein? Why not Robert or Joseph or Thad or some nice American-sounding name?
You Dems are just crazy thinking the American people will vote for somebody who doesn't have the common sense not to put Hussein on his fake birth certificate...
Hussein...
That was one of the most wickedly clever satirical posts I have seen here in a long time.
I am sure the nuances are lost on whottt, but I get it. Props man. :tu
10-02-2008
spurster
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
The real question is: Why does he keep his grandmother in a hut?
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Whottt cracks me up. :lmao
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
I am sure the nuances are lost on whottt, but I get it.
Please...don't flatter yourself...it's not that hard to get, it's at least as easy as understanding what a Capital Gains Tax is.
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Props man. :tu
I actually had to read it a couple of times to make sure he wasn't CnPing one of my old posts...that said, I've always said Obama was stupid to not change his middle name. It's going to be a negative for him.
10-02-2008
Shastafarian
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
I actually had to read it a couple of times to make sure he wasn't CnPing one of my old posts...that said, I've always said Obama was stupid to not change his middle name. It's going to be a negative for him.
Senator Obama, why did you feel the need to change your middle name? Are you ashamed of your heritage?
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Have you made it to Chicago yet, whottt?
10-02-2008
Extra Stout
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
All you liberals who hate Sarah Palin because she's beautiful while you look like a lumberjack, tell me...
Is there any controversy with her birth certificate?
Wouldn't the media have dug it up if there were a problem?
I mean, they've gone after her for just about everything else...
And yet here is Obama... who won't even change his middle name on his fake birth certificate...
And yet you think he should be President...
I mean... I know Sarah Palin's middle name is Louise and that she was born in Sandpoint, Idaho...
I doubt have any doubts that she is American...
I even drove up to Sandpoint to find her birthplace... tried to purchase her childhood home... can't do that for Obama...
But yet you say she is unqualified because Katie Couric asks her stupid questions...
So you're smart because you let Oprah tell you who to vote for...
OK right... :tu
10-02-2008
Extra Stout
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
I mean, is that how you decide who is qualified?
Being President is about how you answer Katie Couric's questions?
I looked in the Constitution.... didn't find that...
I found a part about being 35 and being a natural-born citizen.....
And you're telling me that some guy with the middle name Hussein whose birth certificate is a proven fake is qualified.....
Must be nice to live in that liberal dream world.... :tu
10-02-2008
Shastafarian
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
It's scary how good you are at this :lol
10-02-2008
Findog
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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It's scary how good you are at this :lol
Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.
10-02-2008
Shastafarian
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Findog
Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.
The one thing missing....my honest opinion about the matter....his ambiguous and ultimately unnecessary use of....
10-02-2008
shelshor
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Shastafarian
Senator Obama, why did you feel the need to change your middle name? Are you ashamed of your heritage?
It would also appear that The Obamessiah is proud of his mother for being on food stamps, but ashamed of her for only being on them while she was working on her PhD
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Findog
Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.
He's good at getting the style but totally horrible on content. His content makes no sense...mine does.
My logic is nearly always right. Regardless of how alien it may be to mindless programmed thinkers...of which there are many.
The paragraph breaks are because I tend to have long posts and want to ensure that every bit of my knowledge enters into your dome.
While I'm not saying everyone reads the all of my posts...I get a better result than just a big block of text would.
Ellipsisisisisisisi typos and only proofreading my posts for errors in content and readability(not typos or minor grammatical and spelling errors) are to make my trolls harder to notice.
Since no one on this forum has ever yet busted a whottt troll I didn't want busted, including timvp and kori(ok they may have gotten me once about 3 years ago)...my methodology is sound.
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Findog
Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.
So I'm not the only one who got the nuances. :lol
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Shastafarian
It's scary how good you are at this :lol
:worthy: Extra Stout
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Here's how I would approach the Hussein subject, in fact I did:
And before you pull the race card....I'm not voting for anyone named Adolph either...and I'm German. So :fu
I'm not voting for anyone named Usama.
I'm not voting for anyone named Satan.
I'm not voting for anyone named Vladamir.
I'm not voting for anyone named Mao.
Or Leonid.
Or Fidel.
Or Hugo.
Or Khomeni.
The way I look at it...if they are too stupid to change their name? They are too stupid to be President.
And just to prove I'm not racist...I'm German and even though I wouldn't vote for someone named Adolph, I would vote for an Austrian named Arnie
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
Please...don't flatter yourself...it's not that hard to get, it's at least as easy as understanding what a Capital Gains Tax is.
I actually had to read it a couple of times to make sure he wasn't CnPing one of my old posts...that said, I've always said Obama was stupid to not change his middle name. It's going to be a negative for him.
:blah:blah:blah
10-02-2008
101A
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
He's good at getting the style but totally horrible on content. His content makes no sense...mine does.
My logic is nearly always right. Regardless of how alien it may be to mindless programmed thinkers...of which there are many.
The paragraph breaks are because I tend to have long posts and want to ensure that every bit of my knowledge enters into your dome.
While I'm not saying everyone reads the all of my posts...I get a better result than just a big block of text would.
Ellipsisisisisisisi typos and only proofreading my posts for errors in content and readability(not typos or minor grammatical and spelling errors) are to make my trolls harder to notice.
Since no one on this forum has ever yet busted a whottt troll I didn't want busted, including timvp and kori(ok they may have gotten me once about 3 years ago)...my methodology is sound.
Outstanding.
ROFL.
10-02-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I have never seen whottt this desperate.
That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".
This, however, is one of my more clever one-liners.
Like me or not, you gotta admit it was good. :p:
10-02-2008
Shastafarian
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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And before you pull the race card....I'm not voting for anyone named Adolph either...and I'm German. So :fu
Last time I checked "German" isn't a race.
10-02-2008
JoeChalupa
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
I've never voted for anyone based on their name.
10-02-2008
Findog
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Hussein is a pretty common Arabic name, like Smith or Jones. His dad, whom he met once, was Muslim, and he got his dad's name.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by Findog
Hussein is a pretty common Arabic name, like Smith or Jones.
No shit?
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His dad, whom he met once, was Muslim
Wow...so you mean Obama was a Muslim? I thought that was bullshit.
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and he got his dad's name.
No shit?
10-02-2008
Findog
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
^ You know how to read...barely, but you know how to read. You can drop the disengenuous stuff.
10-02-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Disingenuous stuff is all he has.
All his hopes here hinge on a lawyer who claims Bush stole both the 2000 and 2004 elections and planned the 9/11 attacks.
10-02-2008
JohnnyMarzetti
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
McLame's campaign is about to die.
10-02-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
My favorite ES threads are the ones where he goes in and posts his usual one line of sarcasm and people don't pick it up and reply to it as though he wasn't being sarcastic. There was one in here yesterday where he totally owned half the thread. It was greatness.
10-02-2008
Shastafarian
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
My favorite ES threads are the ones where he goes in and posts his usual one line of sarcasm and people don't pick it up and reply to it as though he wasn't being sarcastic. There was one in here yesterday where he totally owned half the thread. It was greatness.
The french revolution post?
10-02-2008
JohnnyMarzetti
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
ES is BS
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! How's my little hive doing? Still buzzing?
LMAO not only is Obama refusing to show his birth certificatre...he's hired a fucking lawyer from CAIR. This is hilarious.
Thursday, October 2, 2008
OBAMA is USING TERRORIST'S LAWYER to Defend LAWSUIT
Here come another of those "Guilt by Associations" that Senator Barack Obama will try to weasel himself out of. As you may know, Philip Berg is suing Senator Obama in Civil Court. Berg wants Obama to Produce his real birth certificate to prove that he meets the citizenship requirements to be President. Rather than just product the birth certificate (is he trying to hide something?) Obama's legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the Lawyers filing the motion was Joe Sandler ([email protected]) of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young (see the document below).
If Mr. Sandler's name sounds familiar it Should. He is the Legal Hit Man for the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and has been as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.
Sandler's role for CAIR has been to stifle people from telling the truth about Islam. For example, last year he tried to get Jihad Expert Robert Spencer banned from speaking to the Young American Foundation, by using a threatening letter. Sandler followed up by threatening columnist Mike Adams for writing about the Spencer incident.
Look, everyone deserves legal representation that is not the Issue. The real issue is why is a candidate for President of the United States, a guy who wants to take over the role of Commander-in-Chief in the war on terror, using the Lawyer for CAIR a group with terrorist connections, to represent him in a law suit? Once again the Junior Senator from Illinois leave us with questions and no answers.
10-02-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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whottt, FromWayDowntown
FWDT, your thoughts?
Why doesn't he just show the birth certificate? Why is he fighting it?
10-03-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
The sad/funny thing is that whottt probably thinks he is "winning" somehow when this thread gets bumped. :lol
10-03-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
The sad/funny thing is that whottt probably thinks he is "winning" somehow when this thread gets bumped. :lol
The said thing is that you audacity to talk shit when you don't know what a Capital Gains Tax is.
10-03-2008
scott
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
My logic is nearly always right.
10-03-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
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Originally Posted by whottt
The said thing is that you audacity to talk shit when you don't know what a Capital Gains Tax is.
:blah:blah:blah
10-03-2008
RandomGuy
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
Ok after looking at FactCheck that looks like a birth certificate to me and not whatever this guy said it was...so he's probably just an asshat.
And yeah on the Indonesian thing, just because the Idonesians considered him no longer a US citizen doesn't mean the US had the same interpretation. I'll agree with that...this lawyer is twisting shit.
It's not so much that I'm suspicious...it's that Obama is acting suspiciously.
From everything I've read he's got a birth certrificate and it's been verified...
So why won't he just show it to the courts and get it over with?
That is my question.
It's a valid one.
10-04-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?
The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.
Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg told WND he remains "99.99 percent sure" that the certificate is a fake and he wants a court, not a website, to determine its validity.
Earlier last week, lawyers for Obama and the DNC filed a joint motion to dismiss Berg's lawsuit. The fact that the DNC joined in the dismissal request has Berg fuming, believing his party's leaders have ignored his pleas for proof in order to favor their chosen candidate over a rank-and-file constituent.
"I think it's outrageous," Berg said. "The Democratic National Committee should be ensuring the Democratic Party and the public that they have a qualified candidate up there. To file a joint motion is like they're in cahoots.
"Since then, I have asked by way of press release that Howard Dean resign, because (the DNC members) are not fulfilling their duties," Berg said.
"The DNC has a responsibility to all Democrats in this country to make sure that all of their candidates are properly vetted and properly qualified," Berg added. "I think it's really an outrage to the 18-plus million people who voted for Obama and the people who donated more than $425 million to him under false pretenses."
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Berg is frustrated, not only with his own party's leadership for allegedly not investigating Obama's background, but also with the major news outlets for failing as well.
"I should also be suing the national media and their disgrace for not properly vetting, inspecting or checking on Barack Obama.
"Look what they're doing to Governor Palin: They're opening up her closet doors, they're going through everything personal, but no one has ever gone after Obama. It doesn't make sense," Berg said.
Obama's website counters Berg's claims with links to articles that affirm the validity of his citizenship and an image of a Hawaiian birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, born in Honolulu, Aug. 4, 1961. The webpage is part of the Obama campaign website's "Fight the Smears" section, an effort to prevent reports that Obama claims are false from disseminating as damaging rumors.
Berg acknowledges that as long as his lawsuit remains outstanding, the public will talk, and he told WND he wants Obama to quickly prove him wrong or the court to quickly prove him right.
"I've been on about 50 radio shows around the country," Berg said, "and on every one I've put out a challenge: Barack Obama, if I'm wrong, just come forth with certified copies of these documents and I'll close down the case."
Berg told WND, "I've had 19 million hits on my website. …Those people talk to other people, now we're up to 20, 30, 40 million people who are aware of this controversy, and it's going to drastically affect the entire election."
When asked what he would do if the DNC succeeded in getting his case dismissed, Berg said he would "immediately file an appeal to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, and if we don't get a fair ruling there, immediately to the U.S. Supreme Court."
"We're dealing with the U.S. Constitution and it must be followed," Berg explained. "I want the Constitution enforced; that's my main reason for doing this.
"The real outrage is that there's nothing in our system that provides that a candidate must provide that his qualifications are true and correct before he or she runs, and that safeguard should be put into our system by law," Berg said.
10-04-2008
whottt
Re: The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?