Of course they can. And if you've heard different it's only because the liberal media elite is twisting words to lie to you about military procedure.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
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Of course they can. And if you've heard different it's only because the liberal media elite is twisting words to lie to you about military procedure.Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
whottt's "yes or no" answers are about 2000 words long, so this should take a while :lol
NUKILAR WHOTTT..THEY MIGHT TURN NUKILAR.
Where have we heard that before.
she sodomizes proper grammar, can't speak coherently and cries about Alaska 24/7 i think i speak for everyone when i say i can't stand this bitch :bang
This thread is all kinds of awesome. I can't wait to see what his answer is. :lol
Holy fucking shit I can't believe how little Manny knows.
#1. Ceding to Federal Authority is most definitely being in the chain of command...that's a fucking ludicrous notion.
So even by your ultra strict definition...you're wrong.Quote:
This temporarily ended with the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, a federal law that established the governor of a state was no longer the sole commander in chief of the National Guard during emergencies within the state. The President of the United States would then be able to take control of a state's National Guard units without the governor's consent.[3] In a letter to Congress all 50 governors opposed the increase in power of the president over the National Guard.[4] These changes were repealed in 2008, restoring full command within a state to that state's governor. This restoration of gubernatorial authority occurred by repealing the 2006 amendments to the Insurrection Act.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief
Fact.
Furthermore it's typical of the powers of all Governors to be able to use the Guard to repel invasions, to supress insurgencies, to handle emegencies.
Look at virtually decription of any Gubenatorial Powers and they have that power.
In the absence of a Federal Response and if she is being invaded, she most certainly is in command against a foreign power, that is also being in the chain of command.
I can't believe you tried to twist it into this ultra narrow definition, which is inaccurate and then tell me I was wrong.
She is part of the chain of command. She is in the line of succession...and I was not wrong about anything.
And BTW, what'd Bush do as Governor?
It's a fucking lame pussy criticism..and she shoves it up everybodies ass. Especially Barrack Obama...who has never commanded shit.
Stupid fucks in this thread...how come it's always the stupidest people that think they're right when they're completely wrong.
You tell us.Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
I wonder who's gonna realize first they're not totally talking about the same thing...
If Tpark and Yonnivore had a child it would be Whottt
IIRC there was a conspiracy theory that he ordered the Arkansas National Guard to guard plane loads of cocaine while they were being either refueled or unloaded for distributionQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Palin repelled quite a lot of invasions, did she?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Only an absolute fucking idiot like yourself would think a violation of airspace constitutes a full on invasion or even a fucking emergency.
Face it whottt, you're slipping in your old age :lol
That is giving her a bit too much credit. She is a less-educated Dan Quayle wanting to be VP.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeChalupa
The only thing that is keeping her from a "potatoe" moment is the total lack of media access to her.
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Originally Posted by whottt
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
Any more irony, and I will need to give you my shirts so you can get the wrinkles out. ;)
Actually the military has civilian oversight from the national guard to the full time army..Quote:
Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
85% with whom?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
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Originally Posted by RandomGuy
Capital Gains...
Whereas I know exactly how the chain of command works...and I provided proof.
I'm sorry is DC going to go missing? You realize why this is irrelevant today? I'm sorry but Im living in the world post Alexander Grahm Bell. Are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Um...and she Governs a state outside of the Continental United States that just so happens to be closer to Russia than it is to the rest of the US.
Alaska is only 2.5 miles from Russia at their closest territorial points.
It's called fail safe and the lack of it is a sign of incompetence....I mean incompetence even by Governmental standards.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by whottt
Its soooooooooooooo far. They can see Russia. Guess what, phones still work there. If Russians came over the border Palin would not issue a single military order.
I'm sorry I didn't recognize how important she was as a fucking billionth level fail safe. Good job in finding that important fact we've all missed out on.
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Depends on if the guard was under Federal Control or not...in most cases you'd be right, however that's not true under every scenario. Hence...she's in the chain of command.
Governors have the power to call up the Guard for the purpose of repelling an invasion...is it unlikely she'd ever have to do that? Yes. Does that mean there's no line of sucession that would give her the ability to do that? No.
she's never been to that island. hell, the people living there throw their garbage in the water.
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Originally Posted by clambake
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Originally Posted by Palin
GFY
Governors command the National Guard when the units are not in Federal Service.
Invasion=Instant Federal Service
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Sarah Palin as Alaska National Guard commander
The job involves important managerial responsibilities but provides little, if any, foreign policy experience, military officials say.
By Julian E. Barnes, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 6, 2008
WASHINGTON -- Seeking to buttress the foreign policy credentials of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Republicans have repeatedly cited the vice presidential nominee's experience as commander of the Alaska National Guard.
As governor, Palin oversees military units whose duties include serving overseas, search-and-rescue missions across the state's vast landscape and manning key elements of the U.S. missile defense system at Ft. Greely.
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But foreign deployments of Guard units and the operation of national defense assets like the Ft. Greely missile interceptors are not the responsibility of state governors. Those functions come under the regular U.S. military chain of command.
Commanding the Alaska National Guard is hardly an insignificant job, military officials say. Still, they acknowledge that it provides little, if any, foreign policy experience.
Overseeing a state Guard is a "chief executive role" with real management responsibilities, said Mark Allen, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau, the federal office that coordinates state National Guards.
"I don't think people should think it is a casual relationship, or is like the king putting on the medals," Allen said. "It is not that at all. But the role of the governor is to use the Guard to help the citizens of a state, as opposed to declaring war on a neighboring state."
The Alaska National Guard is unusual in that its jobs include manning part of the U.S. missile defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion works on interceptor missiles designed to shoot down intercontinental missiles.
Members of the Alaska National Guard also were deployed to Iraq, and Palin visited their unit in July 2007. The McCain campaign has pointed to that experience as an example of Palin's foreign policy background.
"She's been the commander of Alaska's National Guard, who's been deployed overseas," Tucker Bounds, a McCain spokesman, said on CNN in one of several recent references to Palin's gubernatorial responsibility for the Guard. "That's foreign policy experience."
Since governors have no role in overseeing Guard members federalized for service in Iraq, military experts said that should not count as foreign policy experience.
National Guard officials said visits such as Palin's trip to Iraq may be important because state officials can lobby the federal government for better training and more equipment if they are needed. There is no indication that during her trip Palin found major problems with how the Alaska Guard was trained or equipped.
Closer to home, the bread-and-butter duties of most state National Guards are natural disasters. During Palin's 21 months in office, there has been one declared disaster: widespread flooding in June and July this year. Palin quickly signed a disaster declaration, officials said. The Guard's role was limited to providing two water tanks and 30,000 sandbags to local authorities.
The Alaska Air National Guard, with 1,946 service members, is involved in an exceptional number of search-and-rescue missions. Since Palin became governor in December 2006, the Air Guard has flown 521 missions, saving 200 lives and assisting with the rescue of 77 more people, said Kalei Brooks, a spokeswoman for the Alaska Department of Military and Veterans Affairs.
"Our rescue squadron is the busiest in the nation," she said.
In recent years, the department has overseen a reorganization of the 1,900-member Army National Guard. Following a U.S. Army restructuring plan, officials have helped assign soldiers to new units.
But training requirements for Guard units are established not by governors, but by the Army, the Air Force and the National Guard Bureau.
"That requirement comes down from the United States Army and Air Force," Allen said. "But that training and that equipment become very important when they are needed within the states."
LA Times article source
you noted 2.5 miles. she's never been there. why hasn't she been there?Quote:
Originally Posted by whottt