73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate

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WASHINGTON — More than 73 million people watched the vice-presidential debate between Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday night, making it the most watched vice-presidential debate in U.S. history and very likely the second-most-watched political debate of any kind.

It ranks behind only the Oct. 28, 1980, debate between President Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, which logged nearly 81 million viewers.

Nielsen Media Research said Friday that 70 million people watched the 90-minute debate across ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox broadcast network, Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Telemundo, Telefutura and BBC America. PBS projects another 3.5 million watched the debate, moderated by its own Gwen Ifill, on public broadcasting stations.

Before the Biden-Palin match, the most watched vice-presidential debate was the only other one to feature a female candidate. George H.W. Bush and Geraldine Ferraro drew 56.7 million viewers on Oct. 11, 1984, Nielsen said.


The 1992 debate
After Carter-Reagan, the presidential debate that drew the most viewers was the Oct. 15, 1992, three-way among then-President Bush, Bill Clinton and Ross Perot, Nielsen said. That logged 69.9 million viewers.

Timing may also have played a part in the big ratings. Thursday is one of the most popular nights of the week for TV-watching, while Friday, when McCain and Obama first debated, is one of the least popular.

Generally, only Super Bowls bring together so many Americans to watch the same thing.

Holeeey shit, I knew it was going to be big, bigger than the Presidential debate...I didn't know it as going to be that big.

73 million viewers...smearing the Presidential debate, shattering it. Second most watched debate in history.


Guess what? They weren't tuning in to see Biden.

Just like they didn't tune in like that to McCain V Obama.


Poll that motherfuckers.

And it's not just TV, it's her personal appearances, it's party activism, it's contributions...


She's like Elvis...


There has never been another politician like her...and there has never been another VP selection that has made the impact she has.


Fact.



It's the one thing McCain has done right in this entire campaign. And he's holding her back...

My advice, stop saying One Heartbeat away from the Presidency and start saying a loooooooooong 4 years away from the Presidency...


It'll have more impact.

Damn, whottt just owned half the political forum. He called it.

Props.

So like I was saying...

It's was a mistake for me to say she's got Reagan or Clinton level charisma...she's got more than they do.


Now or 4 years from now...this woman is going to be your President..so you might as well get used to the idea.

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Damn, whottt just owned half the political forum. He called it.

Props.

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:tu...it's all her.


This woman is fearless, but then what do you expect...she's a point guard :smokin

:lmao

Yeah what did he call? I'd love to see his prediction on the ratings. Link?

If Whottt really wants to call something he should put up his title or sig for the election results

BTW...if she continues to dominate the ratings all the networks are soon going to throw Obama under the bus quicker than boutons desecrates an American Flag when no one is watching. Ratings rule over politics...every time.

So everyone is tuning to see her and loves her but....

"Regardless of which candidate you happen to support, who do you think did the best job in the debate: Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?"
Biden 51%
Palin 36%

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BTW...if she continues to dominate the ratings all the networks are soon going to throw Obama under the bus quicker than boutons desecrates an American Flag when no one is watching. Ratings rule over politics...every time.

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How's she going to dominate the ratings? Is she going to debate for McCain? Is she going to get her own talk show? Who's going to stop Putin while she's doing this?

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How's she going to dominate the ratings? Is she going to debate for McCain? Is she going to get her own talk show? Who's going to stop Putin while she's doing this?

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sure as hell not obama...

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How's she going to dominate the ratings? Is she going to debate for McCain? Is she going to get her own talk show? Who's going to stop Putin while she's doing this?

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Do you know how hungry the media is to interview this woman?

Holding her out of interviews can be turned into a major positive.

Hint: She outdraws the broadcast news when she's on cable news.

And she's learning...

All in all...she is keeping McCain in this race, at some point he's got to step up and do something.


I'm predicting he'll come through with something...he's come back from the dead a couple of times. He proved he could do it at the RNC.

He needs to lead, or else he needs to get the fuck out of Palin's way.

:lmao

So she's going to give lots of interviews now? Yeah I call bullshit.

I thought the media was against her, isn't it?

They can't pull the same shit...she countered the attempted Quaylisization and she countered it well.

W was never able to do it(in large part because he is much stupider than Quayle was)...and that should be cause for alarm.


I don't think she was was the one afraid to do interviews and I think trying to figure out if she was going to contradict McCain's stances was her biggest issue. There is no linera logic to his stances...that's always been the problem connnecting with him.

She didn't become a journalist because she was afraid of the camera though...I think she quite likes the camera...and more importantly, it likes her.

Dude McCain is going to send her to fund raiser after fund raiser after fund raiser. Thats her role now. She's not going to be in the public eye other than at rallys.

73 million viewers tuned in to see if Palin would fall flat on her face. It's like watching a bloody car accident on the side of the freeway, you just can't not look.

If she really is the future of the Republican Party may god save them. I really thought Republicans could go no lower than Bush but they have really outdone themselves with Palin. Kudos.

Obama will cruise to an easy reelection if they are dumb enough to nominate her to the top of the ticket.

*wink* MAVERICK *wink* MAVERICK *wink* YOU BETCHA *wink* MAVERICK *wink* TAKIN' SHOTS FROM HIS OWN PARTY LEFT AND RIGHT *wink* MAVERICK *wink*

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73 million viewers tuned in to see if Palin would fall flat on her face. It's like watching a bloody car accident on the side of the freeway, you just can't not look.

If she really is the future of the Republican Party may god save them. I really thought Republicans could go no lower than Bush but they have really outdone themselves with Palin. Kudos.

Obama will cruise to an easy reelection if they are dumb enough to nominate her to the top of the ticket.

*wink* MAVERICK *wink* MAVERICK *wink* YOU BETCHA *wink* MAVERICK *wink* TAKIN' SHOTS FROM HIS OWN PARTY LEFT AND RIGHT *wink* MAVERICK *wink*

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Congrats...you tied Shasta :tu

Too bad it wasn't 73 million supporters.

I know of 20 households that watched just to see if she would drool.

Plus it makes for funnier viewing when you watch the Tina Fey skit on SNL when you've seen the real skit by Sarah Palin.

The more whottt posts about Palin the more he sounds like a desperate man who bet his life savings on her success or something.


It's like he can't bring himself to admit alot of people tuned in to watch her fail or to see if she was as stupid as SNL depicted. Nope. Everyone who watches her gets excited and energized and is eager to support her. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded

The more whottt posts about Palin the more he sounds like a desperate man who bet his life savings on her success or something.


It's like he can't bring himself to admit alot of people tuned in to watch her fail or to see if she was as stupid as SNL depicted. Nope. Everyone who watches her gets excited and energized and is eager to support her. Fact.

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The more I see of Obama supporters the more convinced I am there will be mass suicides and riots, among his supporters, if he's not elected.

Hey Manny, is there a poll out there that asks the question of why people tuned into the vice presidential debate?

Okay you're right Yonivore, we get it. All 73 million viewers, including the Obama supporters were just attracted by Palin's magnetic personality, her cute ass mannerisms, and her ideology. She's Reagan in a dress. We get it.
Reagan.
Dress.

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Okay you're right Yonivore, we get it. All 73 million viewers, including the Obama supporters were just attracted by Palin's magnetic personality, her cute ass mannerisms, and her ideology. She's Reagan in a dress. We get it.
Reagan.
Dress.

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Finally.

LMAO. Lots of people tuned in to see if she'd get stumped again like she did in her interviews with Gibson and Couric. If you can't see the appeal in that whott, then you're in some serious denial. It's why the Lakers get such high ratings; everyone hates Kobe, and wants to see him get destroyed. Even the Jazz used to get good ratings in the late 90s, and no one was rooting for them. For some reason lots of the conservative base loves her, but look at her approval ratings before the debate and it's clear more people tuned in to see her own herself like she has in the past.

That's not true at all. They tuned in because this woman is exactly like Regan. She brings hope to masses exactly like Reagan. She can win a crowd like Reagan, and she can win this race, exactly like Reagan. The only difference, if you were wondering, is she wears a dress.

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LMAO. Lots of people tuned in to see if she'd get stumped again like she did in her interviews with Gibson and Couric. If you can't see the appeal in that whott, then you're in some serious denial. It's why the Lakers get such high ratings; everyone hates Kobe, and wants to see him get destroyed.

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That's a very one-sided view that discounts Palin/Lakers fans just because you despise their "team."

I'm not a Lakers fan - hell, as evidenced by my lack of participation in any other part of this forum, I'm not even a basketball fan - but, I find it hard to believe that 70 million people tuned in to watch the debate just because they were hoping to see Palin fail.

And, if they did, they were disappointed.

I think it's more likely they tuned in to find out if everything they've been hearing is true and, lo and behold, it isn't.

We'll see.

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Congrats...you tied Shasta :tu

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Don't ever speak to me maggot. You will speak when spoken to, unless otherwise directed.

I'm not exactly allowed to talk politics at my workplace, but my at my wife's work at least 5 people told her they wish Palin was at the top of the ticket instead of McCain following the debate on Thursday night.

Granted, all of these people are probably socially conservative Republicans and evangelical Christians (I do live in Georgia), but that just proves that her strong performance has once again solidified her position with that base.

She's not going to win over any independents or swing-voters with her lack of substance on the issues, but her performance on Thursday night went a long way to erase the doubt about her qualifications even among members of that evangelical Christian base.

She's popular and that debate performance will keep McCain in the race in places like Virginia and other Southeast states.

I think Democrats discount the Clinton factor, as well. Neither of the Clintons have come out and whole-hearted campaigned for Obama yet. In fact, they've been somewhat distant and have given mixed messages wherein they express admiration for both McCain and Palin.

It can't be ruled out that many of the 73 million might have been Hillary supporters who are still pissed off as all getout about her being snubbed from the ticket.

I also think the one thing Governor Palin pointed out, during the debates, that will resonate with many of those same people is how vehemently Joe Biden opposed his running mate during the primary campaign.

I expect some of Joe Biden's more pointed accusation against Obama will show up between now and November 4th. It'll be good entertainment...as he usually is.

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That's a very one-sided view that discounts Palin/Lakers fans just because you despise their "team."

I'm not a Lakers fan - hell, as evidenced by my lack of participation in any other part of this forum, I'm not even a basketball fan - but, I find it hard to believe that 70 million people tuned in to watch the debate just because they were hoping to see Palin fail.

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73 million didn't tune in to see her fail, but it's not unreasonable that 40-45 million of those who watched tuned in to see her blow it, based on her approval ratings before the debate.

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And, if they did, they were disappointed.

I think it's more likely they tuned in to find out if everything they've been hearing is true and, lo and behold, it isn't.

We'll see.

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Yeah, Palin did do better than expected. The only really bad answer I remember was what she said about global warming. Paraphrasing, I live in Alaska and climate change is a big deal out here because it's in the arctic, but we should stop asking what is causing it and try to take steps to curb it.

This makes no sense whatsoever. She cannot play both sides of the fence. If global warming is not man-made, then how is man going to do anything to curb it?

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73 million didn't tune in to see her fail, but it's not unreasonable that 40-45 million of those who watched tuned in to see her blow it, based on her approval ratings before the debate.



Yeah, Palin did do better than expected. The only really bad answer I remember was what she said about global warming. Paraphrasing, I live in Alaska and climate change is a big deal out here because it's in the arctic, but we should stop asking what is causing it and try to take steps to curb it.

This makes no sense whatsoever. She cannot play both sides of the fence. If global warming is not man-made, then how is man going to do anything to curb it?

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Well, polio wasn't manmade. Nor was malaria or any number of other diseases man managed to curb.

We've also curbed the affects of natural disasters of all shapes and sizes through preparedness, mitigation, and emergency response.

You don't have to be the cause to be part of the solution.

Even without the full fledge Clinton machine support Obama is still kicking ass!!

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Well, polio wasn't manmade. Nor was malaria or any number of other diseases man managed to curb.

We've also curbed the affects of natural disasters of all shapes and sizes through preparedness, mitigation, and emergency response.

You don't have to be the cause to be part of the solution.

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What is man going to do on a global scale to fix global warming if it's not manmade? Nuke ourselves with everything we've got in an attempt to change the orbit or inclination of the planet? If it's not man-made, then what's the point of cutting emissions like she said in her answer? (source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3bLQSH57uM)

I also didn't like the part where she complained about us relying on countries that produce more and more of the pollution (China). If you want to stop that, it's simple; end free trade with China, a nation that does nothing for us but kill our manufacturing jobs while offering cheaply-made crap sold to us at slight discounts. Their standard of living is too low for their citizens to afford our exports anyways.

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Even without the full fledge Clinton machine support Obama is still kicking ass!!

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For instance...Smilin' Joe Biden was for funding the troops before he was Obama's vice presidential candidate.

I hate to see it but the pundits put it best.

Sarah Palin did a lot of good for Sarah Palin with her debate performance. It did nothing to help McCain's campaign and change the clear shift in the electorate towards Obama.

In all likelihood Obama is going to win this election. The electorate has stopped tuning into McCain and his negative ads, you can only go on the negative so much before people stop listening. Even the people I know that don't care for Obama admit he will probably make a good President. He's calm, collected, thoughtful, and wise beyond his years. America is going to see a lot of good in the next 8 years, hopefully it will be the end of the scorched earth campaigns that pit half the electorate against one another.

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:lmao

Yeah what did he call? I'd love to see his prediction on the ratings. Link?

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IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.

whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.

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IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.

whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.

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We all knew that.

The Presidential debate was on a Friday night. VP Debate was prime time television Thursday night. It doesn't take a genius to figure these things out.

Dem voter registrations are running many millions ahead of Repug registrations nationwide, maybe even more than Repug voter disenfranchisement dirty tricks can nullify.

Considering scientific polls of viewers showed that Biden won the debate clearly, it does not seem to be a strong point for the McCain campaign to say that a lot of people watched it because of Sarah. If indeed they were watching for her, and she still lost, it's not a good thing.

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I think Democrats discount the Clinton factor, as well. Neither of the Clintons have come out and whole-hearted campaigned for Obama yet. In fact, they've been somewhat distant and have given mixed messages wherein they express admiration for both McCain and Palin.

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People are not stupid. They do not view Bill Clinton in all of this as a former President but instead as the husband of the person Obama defeated.

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IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.

whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.

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If the next 2 debates don't have 70+ million viewers I'll pronounce Whottt king.

And I never remember him saying that, but he does view Sarah Palin as the return of Jesus so its possible.

you guys really think america hasn't learned anything in the last 8 years?

She's Jesus in a dress.

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She's Jesus in a dress.

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Bush in drag, imo.

pitbull bitch is sideshow freak, so all the carnival TV idiots want to gawk at her.

Doesn't mean they will vote for her.

Voting for pitbull bitch over McLame really means McLame alone is DOA.

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IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.

whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.

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:tu

I predicted a lot of things and that was the major one. You got it exactly right.


Do not expect any kind of positive or even neurtral response from the board libs..they put a negative spin on everything. It's what they do....basing it in reality isn't important to them.

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LMAO. Lots of people tuned in to see if she'd get stumped again like she did in her interviews with Gibson and Couric. If you can't see the appeal in that whott, then you're in some serious denial. It's why the Lakers get such high ratings; everyone hates Kobe, and wants to see him get destroyed. Even the Jazz used to get good ratings in the late 90s, and no one was rooting for them. For some reason lots of the conservative base loves her, but look at her approval ratings before the debate and it's clear more people tuned in to see her own herself like she has in the past.

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Yeah and 70 thousand people wait 4 hours in the stifling heat to see her in Florida to watch her fall on her ass :tu


A lot of libs tuned in sure...but I bet the majority of that audience were people that were going to vote for her.

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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded

The more whottt posts about Palin the more he sounds like a desperate man who bet his life savings on her success or something.


It's like he can't bring himself to admit alot of people tuned in to watch her fail or to see if she was as stupid as SNL depicted. Nope. Everyone who watches her gets excited and energized and is eager to support her. Fact.

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Exactly, she's a spectacle at this point. I tuned in because I was curious if she would do better than in the Couric interviews.

Bottom line on the VP debate: Biden did a masterful job of chaining McCain to Bush, even better than Obama did. Biden is a much better debater than Obama. Palin, on the other hand, went from an F in the minds of undecided voters, to maybe a D+, or at best a C-. If she hadn't used the "white flag of surrender" line, a line that offended 70% of the public that is sick and tired of this war, she might've done even better. Nobody likes a cunt, and that's exactly what she is.

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Originally Posted by timvp

IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.

whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.

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BTW, I also predicted that McCAin will end up getting more votes than Bush in 2004 while Obama will finish with less than Kerry.

That's my boldest prediction...

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The more whottt posts about Palin the more he sounds like a desperate man who bet his life savings on her success or something.[


It's like he can't bring himself to admit alot of people tuned in to watch her fail or to see if she was as stupid as SNL depicted. Nope. Everyone who watches her gets excited and energized and is eager to support her. Fact.

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Yeah, these are all those people that make MSNBC and CNN the most watched Cable News Networks right?


Everybody loves the liberal message, that's why MSNBC is dead last in ratings.

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Yeah, these are all those people that make MSNBC and CNN the most watched Cable News Networks right?


Everybody loves the liberal message, that's why MSNBC is dead last in ratings.

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That's a good point. I suppose FoxNews is the most watch news network because people tune in to see them fall on their faces, right?

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That's a good point. I suppose FoxNews is the most watch news network because people tune in to see them fall on their faces, right?

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Fox has the highest ratings due to the Howard Stern Effect. People tune in just because they wanna see what Fox will say next.

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Fox has the highest ratings due to the Howard Stern Effect. People tune in just because they wanna see what Fox will say next.

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Sure...

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Sure...

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Your explanation is based upon just as much guessing as mine is.

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Yeah and 70 thousand people wait 4 hours in the stifling heat to see her in Florida to watch her fall on her ass :tu


A lot of libs tuned in sure...but I bet the majority of that audience were people that were going to vote for her.

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Where the hell do you get this stupid idea from? If most people who tuned in were going to vote for her, then how come she lost the debate in every poll? Why did those people who were supposedly voting for her not see the debate through red-tinted glasses they've already seen the election through? Your arguments regarding Palin never make any sense. You're in some incredibly deep denial about what this country thinks of her. It just keeps getting more difficult day by day to take your arguments seriously.

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Where the hell do you get this stupid idea from? If most people who tuned in were going to vote for her, then how come she lost the debate in every poll? Why did those people who were supposedly voting for her not see the debate through red-tinted glasses they've already seen the election through? Your arguments regarding Palin never make any sense. You're in some incredibly deep denial about what this country thinks of her. It just keeps getting more difficult day by day to take your arguments seriously.

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Hey, you can sit on polls all you like...


I am going by my instinct. I don't trust the media, they are in the tank for Obama, but I do have a feeling that is about to change.

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Hey, you can sit on polls all you like...


I am going by my instinct. I don't trust the media, they are in the tank for Obama, but I do have a feeling that is about to change.

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Your instinct is faith.

So when they are in the tank for Palin, you will trust the media.

:lol

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Your instinct is faith.

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My instinct is also that ABC edited her interviews and that CNN rides Obama's jock so much they have to be on his side, something Time Warner Contributions later verified. My instinct was that google and Obama hacks overwrote the internet days after Palin was nominated and Google's contributions and my research also confirm that.

The meida is corrupt and dirty...without a doubt. They are hiding behind the first amendment but the ratings prove no one trusts them either. Foxs ratings are surgring while CNN and MSNBC's are declining...

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my research

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So when they are in the tank for Palin, you will trust the media.

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Strawman...I never said anyting about trusting them more. That's your retarded conclusion being attributed to my non-retarded and usually brilliant linear logic.

Nice to see your sense of humor has melted down as well. :lmao

I am in a fantastic mood...you getting your ass kicked by a comma only richens it.

Whatever keeps you from telling is Palin's military responsibilities when Russian planes come close to Alaska....

I want a link to Whottt's prediction.

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I want a link to Whottt's prediction.

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My sig

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I want a link to Whottt's prediction.

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It's at post #47 in this thread.

I also have fully predicted NY will go red in this election. I'm not on the fence about it now.

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I also have fully predicted NY will go red in this election. I'm not on the fence about it now.

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Dude, cut it out. The further out you go the less people believe you and the less your little shtick works.

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I also have fully predicted NY will go red in this election. I'm not on the fence about it now.

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Just in case your genius predictions don't turn out the way you want, to what will you ascribe an Obama victory in the election? The collective "idiocy" of the electorate?

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Just in case your genius predictions don't turn out the way you want, to what will you ascribe an Obama victory in the election? The collective "idiocy" of the electorate?

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Most likely massive voter fraud. But I've got options...you can be sure I'll use them.

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Most likely massive voter fraud. But I've got options...you can be sure I'll use them.

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There is nothing better than pre-excusing.

Awesome.

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Most likely massive voter fraud. But I've got options...you can be sure I'll use them.

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lurking at freerepublic and redstate.org on November 4th is gonna be fun.

Wrong prediction

I want the one where he predicted the VP debate ratings.

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My sig

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It's at post #47 in this thread.

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There is nothing better than pre-excusing.

Awesome.

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He asked...


I'm not certain the voter fraud is going to work though...if I was I wouldn't be predicting what I'm predicting.

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Wrong prediction

I want the one where he predicted the VP debate ratings.

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I think it's in your 270 thread. I did make that prediction and that's why timvp remembers it.

Here you go Manny:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...07&postcount=5

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Originally Posted by whottt

And more people are going watch this debate than watched the Presidential debate

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I said it several times, including predicting it...that was the most recent time I said it.

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Originally Posted by whottt

Here you go Manny:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...07&postcount=5




I said it several times, including predicting it...that was the most recent time I said it.

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Find a quote from me where I disputed it. I'm not surprised it turned out that way, Palin is a curiosity no matter how you feel about her.

Meanwhile...since we're keeping track of predictions:

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I think McCain is going to win

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Find a quote from me where I disputed it. I'm not surprised it turned out that way, Palin is a curiosity no matter how you feel about her.

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Um...who the fuck said you disputed it asshat? No one was even talking about you....Manny asked for a link.

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Um...who the fuck said you disputed it asshat? No one was even talking about you....Manny asked for a link.

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You were the one crowing about how you were right on this score and everybody else was wrong. It's a peripheral matter anyways.

I would just like to point out that the other two most watched debates were watched to that degree because of Reagan and Clinton...the two guys who won their elections.

This is exactly the same dynamic at play here.



And everyone one said Reagan was a joke too.


The Democrats have one thing going for them...McCain. I don't think it's going to be enough.

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You were the one crowing about how you were right on this score and everybody else was wrong. It's a peripheral matter anyways.

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Idiot..timvp is hte one who mentioned it, I confirmed it and Manny disputed it...

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Idiot..timvp is hte one who mentioned it, I confirmed it and Manny disputed it...

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If it matters so much, I'd like to see some bumped quotes where people disputed it.

VP debate ratings are peripheral. Say it again: peripheral.

Sigh. Retarded.

K, I'll give it to you. You also said Biden couldn't win the debate, he did.

The pattern I've seen with you Whottt is you just throw as much shit up against the wall as you can man. Eventually something sticks.

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Sigh. Retarded.

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"BTW, I also predicted that McCAin will end up getting more votes than Bush in 2004 while Obama will finish with less than Kerry.

That's my boldest prediction..."

"I also have fully predicted NY will go red in this election. I'm not on the fence about it now"

- whottt

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

K, I'll give it to you. You also said Biden couldn't win the debate, he did.

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Depends on who you ask...I rejected basing it on the polls instantly...and I did so for a reason.

Because I don't trust them. I said this before the debate, remember?

You want a link?

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The pattern I've seen with you Whottt is you just throw as much shit up against the wall as you can man. Eventually something sticks.

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LMAO...I never lose the big heated arguments dude. IF I'm not sure about something I don't argue it much..

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Originally Posted by Findog

"BTW, I also predicted that McCAin will end up getting more votes than Bush in 2004 while Obama will finish with less than Kerry.

That's my boldest prediction..."

"I also have fully predicted NY will go red in this election. I'm not on the fence about it now"

- whottt

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What part of:

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

I want a link to Whottt's prediction.

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Don't you get? He was talking about the VP viewership.

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Originally Posted by whottt

LMAO...I never lose the big heated arguments dude. IF I'm not sure about something I don't argue it much..

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Just ask Chump :smokin

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Originally Posted by whottt

Meanwhile...since we're keeping track of predictions:

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I do think McCain is going to win, but I don't care enough to be pre-excusing the possibility of its not happening.

Full list of whottt's predictions just so we can go on record...

McCain will win. Landslide.
Over 300 Electoral Votes.
More votes than Bush.
Obama will get fewer than Kerry.
NY goes to McCain.
Penn goes to McCain.
NH goes to McCain.
Minn goes to McCain(it's in the 270 thread and trending).
WI goes to McCain.


To be fair...I did predict NY polling would be in play by NY...it went in play much sooner than I expected and is now out of play, but I am saying NY goes to McCain.

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Originally Posted by whottt

Depends on who you ask...I rejected basing it on the polls instantly...and I did so for a reason.

Because I don't trust them. I said this before the debate, remember?

You want a link?






LMAO...I never lose the big heated arguments dude. IF I'm not sure about something I don't argue it much..

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It's true.

He's avoiding explaining Palin's military responsibilities like the plague.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Damn, whottt just owned half the political forum. He called it.

Props.

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Well that's twp of you who thinks he has. Zero bounce at the polls! You guys keep thinking she's making a positive difference..:lol

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Originally Posted by whottt

Full list of whottt's predictions just so we can go on record...

McCain will win. Landslide.
Over 300 Electoral Votes.
More votes than Bush.
Obama will get fewer than Kerry.
NY goes to McCain.
Penn goes to McCain.
NH goes to McCain.
Minn goes to McCain(it's in the 270 thread and trending).
WI goes to McCain.


To be fair...I did predict NY polling would be in play by NY...it went in play much sooner than I expected and is now out of play, but I am saying NY goes to McCain.

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:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

One other prediction I made in this thread..the media is going to turn on Obama.

Ratings rule....that's why they're in the tank for Obama in the first place. He's been left in Palin's wake.


I take back what I said before...this is my biggest prediction.

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I do think McCain is going to win, but I don't care enough to be pre-excusing the possibility of its not happening.

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I'm just curious as to what you base that on. I don't think this election is over by any means, and a lot can happen in a month, but Obama is up in the national tracking poll outside of the margin of error. If the election were held today, he would almost certainly win, and by a comfortable margin.

Rasmussen nailed the 04 election better than any pollster, and he has Obama up in line with other pollsters. What is wrong with the polls, or what is going to change between now and November 4th?

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Originally Posted by whottt

One other prediction I made in this thread..the media is going to turn on Obama.

Ratings rule....that's why they're in the tank for Obama in the first place. He's been left in Palin's wake.


I take back what I said before...this is my biggest prediction.

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And I predict whott will remain a dumb ass..!

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I'm just curious as to what you base that on. I don't think this election is over by any means, and a lot can happen in a month, but Obama is up in the national tracking poll outside of the margin of error. If the election were held today, he would almost certainly win, and by a comfortable margin.

Rasmussen nailed the 04 election better than any pollster, and he has Obama up in line with other pollsters. What is wrong with the polls, or what is going to change between now and November 4th?

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Just a hunch. Doesn't matter much to me either way. I just wonder how much to the dark side McCain has actually turned.

Republicans smear better than the Democrats, and the Republican base votes more than the Democrat base.

I don't think it will be a landslide either way but I can understand why some would think McCain is going to win.

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Originally Posted by Spurminator

Republicans smear better than the Democrats, and the Republican base votes more than the Democrat base.

I don't think it will be a landslide either way but I can understand why some would think McCain is going to win.

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Speaking of the Darkside^^^^^

Our boy Spurminator has definitely taken a turn for the worse.


He was my clear #1 vote in ST's smartest poster poll...glad I was lazy that day and didn't vote.

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Republicans smear better than the Democrats, and the Republican base votes more than the Democrat base.

I don't think it will be a landslide either way but I can understand why some would think McCain is going to win.

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I don't think the smears against Obama are going to work. Hillary dragging things out helped Obama ironically, because voters have already been exposed to the Ayers, Rezko, Wright stuff and it hasn't hurt Obama.

Obama has the highest favorable ratings of all candidates and Palin has the worst. What swing voter is going to buy her "Obama palls around with terrorists" bullshit? October historically is a month when voters make up their minds and are hard to sway if they've already made up their minds. Going completely negative - my hunch is it will be ineffective with the economic news so bad.