Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
I'm not exactly allowed to talk politics at my workplace, but my at my wife's work at least 5 people told her they wish Palin was at the top of the ticket instead of McCain following the debate on Thursday night.
Granted, all of these people are probably socially conservative Republicans and evangelical Christians (I do live in Georgia), but that just proves that her strong performance has once again solidified her position with that base.
She's not going to win over any independents or swing-voters with her lack of substance on the issues, but her performance on Thursday night went a long way to erase the doubt about her qualifications even among members of that evangelical Christian base.
She's popular and that debate performance will keep McCain in the race in places like Virginia and other Southeast states.
10-04-2008
Yonivore
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
I think Democrats discount the Clinton factor, as well. Neither of the Clintons have come out and whole-hearted campaigned for Obama yet. In fact, they've been somewhat distant and have given mixed messages wherein they express admiration for both McCain and Palin.
It can't be ruled out that many of the 73 million might have been Hillary supporters who are still pissed off as all getout about her being snubbed from the ticket.
I also think the one thing Governor Palin pointed out, during the debates, that will resonate with many of those same people is how vehemently Joe Biden opposed his running mate during the primary campaign.
I expect some of Joe Biden's more pointed accusation against Obama will show up between now and November 4th. It'll be good entertainment...as he usually is.
10-04-2008
baseline bum
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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That's a very one-sided view that discounts Palin/Lakers fans just because you despise their "team."
I'm not a Lakers fan - hell, as evidenced by my lack of participation in any other part of this forum, I'm not even a basketball fan - but, I find it hard to believe that 70 million people tuned in to watch the debate just because they were hoping to see Palin fail.
73 million didn't tune in to see her fail, but it's not unreasonable that 40-45 million of those who watched tuned in to see her blow it, based on her approval ratings before the debate.
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And, if they did, they were disappointed.
I think it's more likely they tuned in to find out if everything they've been hearing is true and, lo and behold, it isn't.
We'll see.
Yeah, Palin did do better than expected. The only really bad answer I remember was what she said about global warming. Paraphrasing, I live in Alaska and climate change is a big deal out here because it's in the arctic, but we should stop asking what is causing it and try to take steps to curb it.
This makes no sense whatsoever. She cannot play both sides of the fence. If global warming is not man-made, then how is man going to do anything to curb it?
10-04-2008
Yonivore
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Originally Posted by baseline bum
73 million didn't tune in to see her fail, but it's not unreasonable that 40-45 million of those who watched tuned in to see her blow it, based on her approval ratings before the debate.
Yeah, Palin did do better than expected. The only really bad answer I remember was what she said about global warming. Paraphrasing, I live in Alaska and climate change is a big deal out here because it's in the arctic, but we should stop asking what is causing it and try to take steps to curb it.
This makes no sense whatsoever. She cannot play both sides of the fence. If global warming is not man-made, then how is man going to do anything to curb it?
Well, polio wasn't manmade. Nor was malaria or any number of other diseases man managed to curb.
We've also curbed the affects of natural disasters of all shapes and sizes through preparedness, mitigation, and emergency response.
You don't have to be the cause to be part of the solution.
10-04-2008
JoeChalupa
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
Even without the full fledge Clinton machine support Obama is still kicking ass!!
10-04-2008
baseline bum
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Well, polio wasn't manmade. Nor was malaria or any number of other diseases man managed to curb.
We've also curbed the affects of natural disasters of all shapes and sizes through preparedness, mitigation, and emergency response.
You don't have to be the cause to be part of the solution.
What is man going to do on a global scale to fix global warming if it's not manmade? Nuke ourselves with everything we've got in an attempt to change the orbit or inclination of the planet? If it's not man-made, then what's the point of cutting emissions like she said in her answer? (source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3bLQSH57uM)
I also didn't like the part where she complained about us relying on countries that produce more and more of the pollution (China). If you want to stop that, it's simple; end free trade with China, a nation that does nothing for us but kill our manufacturing jobs while offering cheaply-made crap sold to us at slight discounts. Their standard of living is too low for their citizens to afford our exports anyways.
10-04-2008
Yonivore
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Even without the full fledge Clinton machine support Obama is still kicking ass!!
For instance...Smilin' Joe Biden was for funding the troops before he was Obama's vice presidential candidate.
10-04-2008
TomBrady
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
I hate to see it but the pundits put it best.
Sarah Palin did a lot of good for Sarah Palin with her debate performance. It did nothing to help McCain's campaign and change the clear shift in the electorate towards Obama.
In all likelihood Obama is going to win this election. The electorate has stopped tuning into McCain and his negative ads, you can only go on the negative so much before people stop listening. Even the people I know that don't care for Obama admit he will probably make a good President. He's calm, collected, thoughtful, and wise beyond his years. America is going to see a lot of good in the next 8 years, hopefully it will be the end of the scorched earth campaigns that pit half the electorate against one another.
10-04-2008
timvp
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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:lmao
Yeah what did he call? I'd love to see his prediction on the ratings. Link?
IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.
whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.
10-04-2008
TomBrady
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.
whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.
We all knew that.
The Presidential debate was on a Friday night. VP Debate was prime time television Thursday night. It doesn't take a genius to figure these things out.
10-04-2008
boutons_
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
Dem voter registrations are running many millions ahead of Repug registrations nationwide, maybe even more than Repug voter disenfranchisement dirty tricks can nullify.
10-04-2008
ploto
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
Considering scientific polls of viewers showed that Biden won the debate clearly, it does not seem to be a strong point for the McCain campaign to say that a lot of people watched it because of Sarah. If indeed they were watching for her, and she still lost, it's not a good thing.
10-04-2008
ploto
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Originally Posted by Yonivore
I think Democrats discount the Clinton factor, as well. Neither of the Clintons have come out and whole-hearted campaigned for Obama yet. In fact, they've been somewhat distant and have given mixed messages wherein they express admiration for both McCain and Palin.
People are not stupid. They do not view Bill Clinton in all of this as a former President but instead as the husband of the person Obama defeated.
10-04-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Originally Posted by timvp
IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.
whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.
If the next 2 debates don't have 70+ million viewers I'll pronounce Whottt king.
And I never remember him saying that, but he does view Sarah Palin as the return of Jesus so its possible.
10-04-2008
clambake
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
you guys really think america hasn't learned anything in the last 8 years?
10-04-2008
Cant_Be_Faded
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
She's Jesus in a dress.
10-04-2008
MannyIsGod
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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She's Jesus in a dress.
Bush in drag, imo.
10-04-2008
boutons_
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
pitbull bitch is sideshow freak, so all the carnival TV idiots want to gawk at her.
Doesn't mean they will vote for her.
Voting for pitbull bitch over McLame really means McLame alone is DOA.
10-04-2008
whottt
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Originally Posted by timvp
IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.
whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.
:tu
I predicted a lot of things and that was the major one. You got it exactly right.
Do not expect any kind of positive or even neurtral response from the board libs..they put a negative spin on everything. It's what they do....basing it in reality isn't important to them.
10-04-2008
whottt
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LMAO. Lots of people tuned in to see if she'd get stumped again like she did in her interviews with Gibson and Couric. If you can't see the appeal in that whott, then you're in some serious denial. It's why the Lakers get such high ratings; everyone hates Kobe, and wants to see him get destroyed. Even the Jazz used to get good ratings in the late 90s, and no one was rooting for them. For some reason lots of the conservative base loves her, but look at her approval ratings before the debate and it's clear more people tuned in to see her own herself like she has in the past.
Yeah and 70 thousand people wait 4 hours in the stifling heat to see her in Florida to watch her fall on her ass :tu
A lot of libs tuned in sure...but I bet the majority of that audience were people that were going to vote for her.
10-04-2008
Findog
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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The more whottt posts about Palin the more he sounds like a desperate man who bet his life savings on her success or something.
It's like he can't bring himself to admit alot of people tuned in to watch her fail or to see if she was as stupid as SNL depicted. Nope. Everyone who watches her gets excited and energized and is eager to support her. Fact.
Exactly, she's a spectacle at this point. I tuned in because I was curious if she would do better than in the Couric interviews.
Bottom line on the VP debate: Biden did a masterful job of chaining McCain to Bush, even better than Obama did. Biden is a much better debater than Obama. Palin, on the other hand, went from an F in the minds of undecided voters, to maybe a D+, or at best a C-. If she hadn't used the "white flag of surrender" line, a line that offended 70% of the public that is sick and tired of this war, she might've done even better. Nobody likes a cunt, and that's exactly what she is.
10-04-2008
whottt
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Originally Posted by timvp
IIRC, he said the VP debates would be bigger than any of the POTUS debates ... and he was scoffed.
whottt can correct me if I'm giving him too much credit.
BTW, I also predicted that McCAin will end up getting more votes than Bush in 2004 while Obama will finish with less than Kerry.
That's my boldest prediction...
10-04-2008
whottt
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
The more whottt posts about Palin the more he sounds like a desperate man who bet his life savings on her success or something.[
It's like he can't bring himself to admit alot of people tuned in to watch her fail or to see if she was as stupid as SNL depicted. Nope. Everyone who watches her gets excited and energized and is eager to support her. Fact.
Yeah, these are all those people that make MSNBC and CNN the most watched Cable News Networks right?
Everybody loves the liberal message, that's why MSNBC is dead last in ratings.
10-04-2008
Yonivore
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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Yeah, these are all those people that make MSNBC and CNN the most watched Cable News Networks right?
Everybody loves the liberal message, that's why MSNBC is dead last in ratings.
That's a good point. I suppose FoxNews is the most watch news network because people tune in to see them fall on their faces, right?
10-04-2008
Shastafarian
Re: 73 Million Viewers watched the VP Debate...second most ever for any debate
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That's a good point. I suppose FoxNews is the most watch news network because people tune in to see them fall on their faces, right?
Fox has the highest ratings due to the Howard Stern Effect. People tune in just because they wanna see what Fox will say next.
