Uh, no it doesn't, since POTUS is unique in the physical and mental rigors it imposes on its occupants. And it's an issue since McCain is a 72 year old cancer survivor, and his running mate is grossly unqualified.
I'm sure the POTUS has great healthcare...hell i thought Cheney was dead a couple of years ago. Who was the last Pres. to die in office from natural causes?
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Do you agree with the sentiments expressed in the videos I posted on the first page of this thread?
I think people get too upset at things (Repubs and Dems both). The people speaking most likely aren't saying they are going to literally KILL HIM. Figuratively, they could have meant "Kill him in the election" i.e. - attack him, win, etc.
If you don't agree, then I guess that when a HS football team says they are going to "kill" the other team you get equally upset.
The picture below is from a HS football team's homecoming t-shirts. These shirts are being sold at the school.
I think people get too upset at things (Repubs and Dems both). The people speaking most likely aren't saying they are going to literally KILL HIM. Figuratively, they could have meant "Kill him in the election" i.e. - attack him, win, etc.
Don't be disingenuous, or try to minimize the corrosive impact of those words. Do you agree with those sentiments or not? You didn't answer the question.
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Don't be disingenuous, or try to minimize the corrosive impact of those words. Do you agree with those sentiments or not? You didn't answer the question.
Which sentiments? Didn't have time to watch all of your vids. List some...i'll give yes/no answer for each.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Which sentiments? Didn't have time to watch all of your vids. List some...i'll give yes/no answer for each.
Is Obama an Un-American Terrorist Sympathizer?
Is he a Terrorist himself?
Is he a sleeper agent/radical Muslim?
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
Yes, No, No.
But that's the beauty of America...freedom of speech.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Yes
Wow! :wow
10-10-2008
George Gervin's Afro
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Originally Posted by Findog
Is Obama an Un-American Terrorist Sympathizer?
Is he a Terrorist himself?
Is he a sleeper agent/radical Muslim?
whatever sticks.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
I'm just curious what makes Obama an Un-American Terrorist Sympathizer. :lol
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Wow! :wow
Why wow?
-I believe that he has close ties to some very un american terrorist type people (Wright, Ayers, etc.). You have every right to believe otherwise.
-His wife was also never proud of her country until he was running for POTUS.
-He has close ties to ACORN. A group that tries to undermine the sanctity of democracy.
-Close ties to Fannie/Freddie executives. The same ones who put the US in the financial predicament it is in now.
One or two associations I can brush off as coincidence...start putting the puzzle together though and one has to start asking questions about his judgement and who he'll appoint to office.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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-I believe that he has close ties to some very un american terrorist type people (Wright, Ayers, etc.). You have every right to believe otherwise.
Bill Ayers blew up a bunch of empty buildings 40 years ago. That makes him a piece of shit. Obama deserves a mild amount of criticism for agreeing to serve on the board of a charitable foundation with him, but that's politics, you sometimes have to go along to get along. John McCain has some pretty sleazy associations in his past too, if you want to play the guilt by association game. Ayers is currently a faculty member at UI-Chicago. Are his students terrorist sympathizers for taking his classes?
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-His wife was also never proud of her country until he was running for POTUS.
You don't think blacks might have a reason to be less than reverential towards this country? Walk a mile in their shoes before you condemn them for failing to snap to attention and sing the National Anthem at the drop of a hat.
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-He has close ties to ACORN. A group that tries to undermine the sanctity of democracy.
I've always had questions about whether this is a good way to do voter registration. And Democratic campaigns usually keep their distance. But here's the key. This is fraud against ACORN. They end up paying people for registering more people then they actually signed up. If you register me three times to vote, the registrar will see two new registrations of an already registered person and the ones won't count. If I successfully register Mickey Mouse to vote, on election day, Mickey Mouse will still be a cartoon character who cannot go to the local voting station and vote. Logically speaking there's very little way a few phony names on the voting rolls could be used to commit actual vote fraud. And much more importantly, numerous studies and investigations have shown no evidence of anything more than a handful of isolated cases of actual instances of vote fraud.
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-Close ties to Fannie/Freddie executives. The same ones who put the US in the financial predicament it is in now.
John McCain's campaign manager was on their payroll as of September. He has even closer ties to Fannie and Freddie. Why is that a mark against Obama but not McCain? That is an indictment of the two-party system and current campaign finance methods more than it is a mark against McCain or Obama.
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One or two associations I can brush off as coincidence...start putting the puzzle together though and one has to start asking questions about his judgement and who he'll appoint to office
Smear and guilt by association.
10-10-2008
PM5K
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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That was so fucking hilarious, that first guy seemed like he knew what was going on, and he wasn't going to give the guy what he wanted, a sound bite, but then he turned around and did just that....
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Originally Posted by Findog
Bill Ayers blew up a bunch of empty buildings 40 years ago. That makes him a piece of shit. Obama deserves a mild amount of criticism for agreeing to serve on the board of a charitable foundation with him, but that's politics, you sometimes have to go along to get along. John McCain has some pretty sleazy associations in his past too, if you want to play the guilt by association game. Ayers is currently a faculty member at UI-Chicago. Are his students terrorist sympathizers for taking his classes?
They are probably exiting his classes with extremely liberal views. If I attended UI-Chicago I wouldn't take one of his classes. Would you?
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You don't think blacks might have a reason to be less than reverential towards this country? Walk a mile in their shoes before you condemn them for failing to snap to attention and sing the National Anthem at the drop of a hat.
John McCain's campaign manager was on their payroll as of September. He has even closer ties to Fannie and Freddie. Why is that a mark against Obama but not McCain? That is an indictment of the two-party system and current campaign finance methods more than it is a mark against McCain or Obama.
McCain's campaign manager was on their payroll because he was a lobbyist for them. There is a big difference between a lobbyist who doesn't have access to the books of a company and an executive who does. You should be more wary of the people that were distorting the books (Raines, Johnson) than the one that was doing the job that he was paid to do (Davis).
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Smear and guilt by association.
What you call a smear I call valid questions about judgement and associations.
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
PM5K...obama might have my vote if you add more pics to your sig.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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They are probably exiting his classes with extremely liberal views. If I attended UI-Chicago I wouldn't take one of his classes. Would you?
If it was a subject that interested me, yes.
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Examples of African Americans who are proud of their country. Isn't it interesting that the NAACP never supports conservative african americans?
Examples of wealthy Republican African Americans who are proud of their country. Why isn't Michelle Obama entitled to fell angry and upset over slavery, Jim Crow and the institutional racism that still exists today?
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McCain's campaign manager doesn't count because that's who I'm voting for and so even though both political parties are to blame for this mess and both major candidates have ties to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, I'm only going to criticize Obama for it.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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That was so fucking hilarious, that first guy seemed like he knew what was going on, and he wasn't going to give the guy what he wanted, a sound bite, but then he turned around and did just that....
His sound bite was comedy gold:
"From the ages of 1 to 6, Barack Obama was immersed in radical Islam."
Yeah, when most kids are playing with their GI Joe Dolls, Obama was the feared Boy-King of the Weatherman Underground.
10-10-2008
Bartleby
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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PM5K...obama might have my vote if you add more pics to your sig.
Mine too.
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Originally Posted by Findog
If it was a subject that interested me, yes.
What if the subject was offered by two different professors?
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Examples of wealthy Republican African Americans who are proud of their country. Why isn't Michelle Obama entitled to fell angry and upset over slavery, Jim Crow and the institutional racism that still exists today?
David Robinson - Father was in the military. Depending on his rank, he might have done OK, but I'm pretty sure his dad wasn't a millionaire.
Colin Powell - Born In Harlem, son of Jamaican immigrants. I'm pretty sure his parents weren't that well off.
Condy - Born in Alabama, traces her roots back to slavery.
These are examples of people who made themselves. They weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth. They are proud of their country and don't have to spew hatred towards it.
10-10-2008
PM5K
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
Well there you go...
You owe me one Obama...
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
Thanks PM5K...I think I'd be scared if you tried to do that with McCain supporters.
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Well there you go...
You owe me one Obama...
Another example of Obama supporters buying votes!!!!:lol
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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What if the subject was offered by two different professors?
Probably would go with the other prof, but I don't care much about Bill Ayers one way or the other. It certainly isn't relevant to the current election.
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David Robinson - Father was in the military. Depending on his rank, he might have done OK, but I'm pretty sure his dad wasn't a millionaire.
Colin Powell - Born In Harlem, son of Jamaican immigrants. I'm pretty sure his parents weren't that well off.
Condy - Born in Alabama, traces her roots back to slavery.
Well, good for them. Now who the hell are you to tell Michelle Obama she isn't entitled to her feelings?
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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Originally Posted by Findog
Probably would go with the other prof, but I don't care much about Bill Ayers one way or the other. It certainly isn't relevant to the current election.
Well, good for them. Now who the hell are you to tell Michelle Obama she isn't entitled to her feelings?
I'm not saying she isn't entitled to her feelings. I'm just saying that I don't have to agree with them.
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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I'm not saying she isn't entitled to her feelings. I'm just saying that I don't have to agree with them.
You certainly don't seem to think they are legitimate, and I have no problems with blacks not being patriotic towards our country. I think they've earned that apathy if that's what they want, and it shouldn't be questioned.
10-10-2008
KenMcCoy
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
So Findog the real question is...Now who the hell are you to say that all of the McCain supporters aren't entitled to their own feelings?
10-10-2008
Findog
Re: McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred
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So Findog the real question is...Now who the hell are you to say that all of the McCain supporters aren't entitled to their own feelings?
They can hate Barack Obama all they want...threatening his life and slandering him by calling him a terrorist, that's not an "opinion" they're entitled to, that's libel and slander at best...and making remarks that deserve the scrutiny of the SS at worst.
