The condemnation of John McCain by John Lewis -- a man McCain called one of the three wise men he would consult as president -- was a huge personal blow to McCain. But Powell's endorsement of Obama is even more of a slap in the face.
Powell is a man that McCain has tremendous respect and admiration for. He once said he respected Powell more than any man in the world.
In the New York Times Magazinethis summer McCain said, "Colin Powell, a man who I admire as much as any man in the world, person in the world..."
McCain called Powell one of the most "credible" and "respected men in America.
Politico reported in August that McCain was even considering asking Powell to be his running mate. McCain has repeatedly said in the past that if elected he would have asked Powell to serve in his administration. Powell and McCain know each other well and have worked closely together. His public endorsement of Obama is a huge validation of Obama and a tremendous repudiation of McCain.
McCain said, "Colin Powell, a man who I admire as much as any man in the world, person in the world..." [NY Times interview with John McCain, 7/13/08]
McCain considered Powell for a running mate. "Retired Gen. Colin Powell is among the potential running mates who have been considered by John McCain, campaign advisers told Politico. Powell was among the possible vice presidential choices the Arizona Republican senator was thinking of when he said he would not rule out a supporter of abortion rights, a key adviser said." [Politico, 8/23/08]
McCain said President Bush was "blessed" to have Powell working for him. McCain said, "I think the president is blessed to have two extremely talented people (Powell and Rumsfeld), experienced people, working for him, and others, but particularly those two." [MSNBC Hardball, 4/23/03]
McCain called Powell one of the most "credible" and "respected men in America. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) praised Powell as one of the "most credible" and "most respected" men in America. [LA Times, 2/6/03]
McCain said he admired and respected Powell, said he was one of most "honest" men he had "ever known." "Sen. McCain: Well, Colin Powell's one of the most honest men that I've ever known and I admire and respect him enormously, and so obviously I'd take his word for it." [CNBC 4/20/04]
McCain was "exuberant" over Powell's selection as Secretary of State. After it was announced that Powell had been nominated by Bush for Secretary of State, McCain said, "I'm exuberant over the prospect of his [Colin Powell] stewardship of American foreign policy. There's a lot of very dangerous places in the world due to the fecklessness of the Clinton administration." [NBC Nightly News, 12/15/00]
McCain lauds Powell's selection as Secretary of State. Senator John McCain "I think his credentials and his charisma will have a significant effect, a beneficial effect, on the conduct of American foreign policy." [NBC Nightly News, 12/16/00]
McCain said if elected in 2000 he would have appointed Powell to his cabinet. On Larry King in 2001, McCain was asked whether he would have named Mr. Rumsfeld and Colin L. Powell to a McCain cabinet. 'Oh, yes." [CNN Larry King, 11/28/01]
As leader of the International Republican Institute, John McCain gave Colin Powell the Freedom Award. "As Senator John McCain waited to speak at the annual awards dinner of the International Republican Institute, a democracy-building group he has led for 15 years," "Mr. McCain could use the chairman's [of the institute] perch to score points with important Republican figures -- he presented Freedom Awards to President Bush, former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and, in 2003, the incoming Senate majority leader, Bill Frist." [NY Times, 7/28/08]
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The Repugs can still steal the election with voter purging and intimidation. Eternal vigilance.
10-19-2008
Anti.Hero
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
Dude I don't think the republicans would try to fix this election if they could.
10-19-2008
jochhejaam
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by exstatic
This is probably the stake through McCain's (barely beating) heart.
How so, what voting bloc would change their vote based upon this endorsement?
10-19-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
How so, what voting bloc would change their vote based upon this endorsement?
The small percentage of Republicans who aren't brainless talkingpointbots.
10-19-2008
boutons_
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
"What these idiots don't understand is that Powell's UN speech was the last attempt at finding a diplomatic solution to the Iraq situation"
Powell's lying "mobile weapons lab" speech, known in the CIA/NSA to be bullshit, had the objective of obtaining a UN resolution to justify dubya busting into and occupying Iraq.
dubya and the neo-c*nts secret agenda in 2000 was invading Iraq (secret = totally unmentioned as campaign plank), no matter what. dubya abandoned Afghanistan only a few weeks after invading to switch his priority to Iraq.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
Many of the posters here trash Bush mainly for the Iraq Invasion, and it therefore, it would be hypocritical for any of them to praise the Powell endorsement.
I don't respect Powell for his role in the Iraq War, but it's undeniable that his endorsement helps Obama.
10-19-2008
jochhejaam
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
[QUOTE=George Gervin's Afro;2834939]Where did Powell get the information to use to justify the war? He also said that the war would have never gained his, or the public's, backing had Iraq not had wmds. QUOTE]
Same sources that passed along the info to Bush, so whatever your judgement is, it should be more of less the same for both.
Other than that, on this issue, yor are a hypocrite.
10-19-2008
ElNono
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
What these idiots don't understand is that Powell's UN speech was the last attempt at finding a diplomatic solution to the Iraq situation, not a pre-announcement of the justifications for war.
I disagree. I think they were laying out the justifications for going in.
Back then most countries thought the evidence was bullshit, hence the lack of support. I don't think at any moment was in doubt that the US and the UK were gonna go in regardless of what happened in that meeting. In Powell's defense, I would say that I don't know if he knew the evidence he presented was bullshit or not. It might well be the case he got duped by the Cheney goons too. That said, the evidence did prove to be bullshit, and he ended up looking real bad worldwide because of that.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
I imagine this endorsement will have just slightly less impact on voting than Powell being Bush's SOS had on the votes of Nbadan, boutons and Joe Chalupa etc. in 2004...
10-19-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by boutons_
"What these idiots don't understand is that Powell's UN speech was the last attempt at finding a diplomatic solution to the Iraq situation"
Powell's lying "mobile weapons lab" speech, known in the CIA/NSA to be bullshit, had the objective of obtaining a UN resolution to justify dubya busting into and occupying Iraq.
Bush didn't want to go through the UN at all. He already thought he had full justification to invade.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
I imagine this endorsement will have just slightly less impact on voting than Powell being Bush's SOS had on the votes of Nbadan, boutons and Joe Chalupa etc. in 2004...
God you're stupid.
"The Powell endorsement is a big deal," said Scott Reed, Bob Dole's campaign manager in 1996 and a close friend of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis. "It has been bantered about since August, and shows both Powell and Obama know how to make an impact in the closing days of a tight campaign."
"What that just did in one sound bite -- and I assume that sound bite will end up in an ad -- is it eliminated the experience factor," said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican, in an appearance on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos. "How are you going to say the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former National Security Adviser, former Secretary of State was taken in?"
10-19-2008
Cant_Be_Faded
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
Huge victory for Palin.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Cant_Be_Faded
Huge victory for Palin.
Whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you like Powell for his record of service to his country, or like me, find his role in covering for Bush on Iraq unforgivable, this endorsement is a huge coup for Obama. Powell has cred with moderates and independents.
10-19-2008
ElNono
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
Hey....is this the same Huffington Post that said Colin Powell was going to endorse Obama after the final debate?
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Originally Posted by whottt
I imagine this endorsement will have just slightly less impact on voting than Powell being Bush's SOS had on the votes of Nbadan, boutons and Joe Chalupa etc. in 2004...
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Originally Posted by whottt
Why's everyone laughing?
:lmao
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
McCain just comes across as so pathetic here:
10-19-2008
Cant_Be_Faded
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
Powell has cred with moderates and independents.
You're saying Powell has street cred? Wow, what a racist!
10-19-2008
Mr. Peabody
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
Powell post-MTP interview
10-19-2008
jochhejaam
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
I don't respect Powell for his role in the Iraq War, but it's undeniable that his endorsement helps Obama.
It's going to make Obama and his supporters feel good, but I don't believe the undecided voter was sitting around thinking; "I'm gonna vote for the candidate that Powell endorses".
As far as supporting Obama, Powell didn't add any new talking points to the Democrat's arguement against McCain, or for Obama.
edit: added don't to make sense of what I posted.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
It's going to make Obama and his supporters feel good, but I believe the undecided voter was sitting around thinking; "I'm gonna vote for the candidate that Powell endorses".
As far as supporting Obama, Powell didn't add any new talking points to the Democrat's arguement against McCain, or for Obama.
By itself it doesn't do anything major, but it helps Obama win the newscycle for the next couple of days after the McCain campaign was beginning to find its bearings after a terrible 3-4 weeks. The clock is ticking and McCain is running out of time to make up ground.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
One thing it does is put one final nail in the experience coffin - The former SoS and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs says Obama is ready to be Commander in Chief.
10-19-2008
Mr. Peabody
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
It's going to make Obama and his supporters feel good, but I believe the undecided voter was sitting around thinking; "I'm gonna vote for the candidate that Powell endorses".
As far as supporting Obama, Powell didn't add any new talking points to the Democrat's arguement against McCain, or for Obama.
No, but Powell does offer his opinion that as someone who has consulted with Obama for the last two years, he feels that Obama would make a good President. That helps with the Obama campaign's goal of making independents comfortable with the idea of an Obama presidency.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
God you're stupid.
"The Powell endorsement is a big deal," said Scott Reed, Bob Dole's campaign manager in 1996 and a close friend of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis. "It has been bantered about since August, and shows both Powell and Obama know how to make an impact in the closing days of a tight campaign."
"What that just did in one sound bite -- and I assume that sound bite will end up in an ad -- is it eliminated the experience factor," said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican, in an appearance on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos. "How are you going to say the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former National Security Adviser, former Secretary of State was taken in?"
I see....so what you are saying is that if Powell had endorsed McCain you'd have voted for him.
Got it :tu
Shitforbrains.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
Fuck I was counting on the support of CBF, Nbadan, boutons, GGA and Joe Chalupa for McCain...now this. :depressed
10-19-2008
Mr. Peabody
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
Powell's endorsement for those who missed it -
10-19-2008
jochhejaam
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
No, but Powell does offer his opinion that as someone who has consulted with Obama for the last two years, he feels that Obama would make a good President. That helps with the Obama campaign's goal of making independents comfortable with the idea of an Obama presidency.
Perhaps, assuming the independents aren't among the many that will always despise Bush and Powell for leading the Charge into Iraq.
It's definitely a positive, I just don't believe it translates into many votes.
Time will tell.
Edit again: Atrocious spelling, maybe I should proof-read.