Fuck I was counting on the support of CBF, Nbadan, boutons, GGA and Joe Chalupa for McCain...now this. :depressed
Hey, if Palin didn't win them over with all of her rockstar-like awesomeness, nothing is going to do it.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
I see....so what you are saying is that if Powell had endorsed McCain you'd have voted for him.
Got it :tu
Shitforbrains.
I'm saying both campaigns would have benefited from Powell's endorsement with undecided moderates. He endorses McCain, they can say "See? The former SoS and Chairman JCs says he's inexperienced and not ready." He endorses Obama, and it's much harder for McCain to make that argument with undecided moderates.
This isn't hard, whottt.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
Powell's endorsement for those who missed it -
Very good statement. His comments about the Muslim soldier being buried at Arlington National Cemetary were very moving, and gets to the heart of how the GOP wants to divide this country into sections for its benefit.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
I'm saying both campaigns would have benefited from Powell's endorsement with undecided moderates. He endorses McCain, they can say "See? The former SoS and Chairman JCs says he's inexperienced and not ready." He endorses Obama, and it's much harder for McCain to make that argument with undecided moderates.
This isn't hard, whottt.
Moderates are the most intelligent of all voters...an endorsement of this nature isn't going to make up their mind.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
God you're stupid.
"The Powell endorsement is a big deal," said Scott Reed, Bob Dole's campaign manager in 1996 and a close friend of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis. "It has been bantered about since August, and shows both Powell and Obama know how to make an impact in the closing days of a tight campaign."
"What that just did in one sound bite -- and I assume that sound bite will end up in an ad -- is it eliminated the experience factor," said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican, in an appearance on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos. "How are you going to say the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former National Security Adviser, former Secretary of State was taken in?"
:lmao
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
Moderates are the most intelligent of all voters...an endorsement of this nature isn't going to make up their mind.
There are two kinds of undecided voters left: Low-information voters swayed by lowest common denominator arguments, and highly cynical voters suspicious of both candidates. You can't argue this is good for McCain, you can only say it's impact is not that great.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
BTW:
:lmao
Gingrich is smart as hell. He's also a bit nutty and an unethical piece of shit, but nobody can deny his brainpower. He can read the tea leaves, unlike you.
10-19-2008
timvp
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
Well stated endorsement. Although it probably lost most of its luster for being rumored for so long. The shock value or even the newsworthy value is now much lower.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
:lol rigth, having a key memer of the Bush Admin endorse Obama is going to totally legitimize 4 more years of W talking point...
Now all you need is the Rummy and Cheney endorsements and you'll have this locked up :tu
10-19-2008
jochhejaam
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The small percentage of Republicans who aren't brainless talkingpointbots.
You know the rules around here (and you just broke one), the adults discuss, then the children can chime in.
(Standby, someone will PM you when it's okay to chime in.)
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by timvp
Well stated endorsement. Although it probably lost most of its luster for being rumored for so long. The shock value or even the newsworthy value is now much lower.
I think you're right that it's not a major surprise, because he could've endorsed McCain a long time ago, but I think they wanted it timed for the last two weeks of the election.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
There are two kinds of undecided voters left: Low-information voters swayed by lowest common denominator arguments, and highly cynical voters suspicious of both candidates. You can't argue this is good for McCain, you can only say it's impact is not that great.
You hope...
10-19-2008
ElNono
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
You hope...
The problem is that you're just not very good at this...
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
You hope...
I don't think Obama needs hope at this point. That's more for your boy.
10-19-2008
PixelPusher
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
You know the rules around here (and you just broke one), the adults discuss, then the children can chime in.
(Standby, someone will PM you when it's okay to chime in.)
That's pretty lame, even if you actually were a moderator.
(Don't bother to standy for a PM confirmation that your are not a moderator, because no one gives a crap)
10-19-2008
ChumpDumper
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
You know the rules around here (and you just broke one), the adults discuss, then the children can chime in.
(Standby, someone will PM you when it's okay to chime in.)
Lamebot.
10-19-2008
whottt
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by Findog
I don't think Obama needs hope at this point. That's more for your boy.
Sure...that's why you're touting a meaningless endorsement by a lameduck as if it's a huge deal.
I'll say that Powell undermined his own credibility the second he said Palin's not ready...when she's got more experience in Government than Obama does.
Only totally in the tank Obama supporters actually buy that line of shit.
The bias there fools absolutely no one...
10-19-2008
ElNono
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
Sure...that's why you're touting a meaningless endorsement by a lameduck as if it's a huge deal.
I'll say that Powell undermined his own credibility the second he said Palin's not ready...when she's got more experience in Government than Obama does.
Only totally in the tank Obama supporters actually buy that line of shit.
The bias there fools absolutely no one...
LOL! He talked down Palin!!!... He must be the antichrist!!!
:lmao
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by whottt
Sure...that's why you're touting a meaningless endorsement by a lameduck as if it's a huge deal.
I'll say that Powell undermined his own credibility the second he said Palin's not ready...when she's got more experience in Government than Obama does.
Only totally in the tank Obama supporters actually buy that line of shit.
The bias there fools absolutely no one...
Touting it? I didn't start this thread. Am I not allowed to comment? It's called an enthusiasm gap. Take a look at the respective benches during the waning moments of Game Six between the Celtics and the Lakers. Which bench was more animated and lively?
10-19-2008
exstatic
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by jochhejaam
How so, what voting bloc would change their vote based upon this endorsement?
Undecideds with a mild conservative bent. McCain was probably counting on those. They were really his only hope, if he got them all.
10-19-2008
hitmanyr2k
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
I suspect we'll be seeing another Republican endorsement for Obama from Senator Chuck Hagel soon.
10-19-2008
Findog
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by hitmanyr2k
I suspect we'll be seeing another Republican endorsement for Obama from Senator Chuck Hagel soon.
Dick Lugar endorsed him.
10-19-2008
Findog
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10-19-2008
jochhejaam
Re: Colin Powell Is Ready To Endorse
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Originally Posted by exstatic
Undecideds with a mild conservative bent. McCain was probably counting on those. They were really his only hope, if he got them all.
As I stated earlier, I don't believe anyone was waiting around with baited breath to decide who to vote for based on who Colin Powell endorsed.
The undecided are basically independent thinkers, so they aren't going to base their decision on who comes along and endorses one of the candidates (especially if no new arguments come with the endorsement), more so they are looking for clarification on where the candidates stand on the issues; to wit: Obama being exposed by Joe the plumber as a being a socialist.