barney franks
dodd
charlie rangel
biden
kennedy
we can play this game all day.
You mean the game where all the names I listed are criminals and all your names are just people you don't like?
I'm not the one claiming that one political sect has better moral character than the other.
11-11-2008
implacable44
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by MaryAnnKilledGinger
You mean the game where all the names I listed are criminals and all your names are just people you don't like?
I'm not the one claiming that one political sect has better moral character than the other.
yeah...sure. kennedy should be in prison for negligent homicide..charlie rangel..mr. ethics should be in jail as well with his violations and defense of ignorance? retard. franks with his gay lover....dodd with his countrywide financed mortgage..the hypocrisy is endless with you freaking libtards.
11-12-2008
MaryAnnKilledGinger
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by implacable44
yeah...sure. kennedy should be in prison for negligent homicide..charlie rangel..mr. ethics should be in jail as well with his violations and defense of ignorance? retard. franks with his gay lover....dodd with his countrywide financed mortgage..the hypocrisy is endless with you freaking libtards.
Are you upset because your guys are just as corrupt as the liberal boneheads you've listed, or are you upset because the liberal ones were too smart to get caught and your guys couldn't even slide under the radar during eight years of a Republican political orgy?
You really shouldn't worry. I'm sure your guys will all be pardoned in a month or so.
11-12-2008
kwhitegocubs
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
Heh, well I would say that the Republican scandals have been considerably more numerous. That doesn't excuse the Democratic scandals, either, but both sides should be arguing the issues rather than pointing out individuals worthy of scorn and attributing their ethical malaise to the whole of either side. If you go by proportion of scandal and criminal behavior, it would likely show the Republicans to be the most ethically bankrupt. So? I really don't think it is that important.
Also, Chappaquiddick, seriously? I mean, yeah, he should have been in jail, but that was 40 years ago. Stretching, are we?
11-12-2008
BradLohaus
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
I was expecting a "The Night the Lights went out in Georgia" youtube parody.
11-12-2008
PixelPusher
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
All I know is I'm getting sick of the JFK comparisons.
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." -- this is DEFINITELY NOT part of the Obama Doctrine.
"You see, the challenges we face will not be solved with one meeting in one night. Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.
We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."
- Barack Obama
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Also, JFK was a major HAWK, had military experience, was more travelled, ... should I continue?
And how, exactly, does for calling for more troops in Afghanistan and raids against AQ in Pakistan make Obama a "dove"?
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
JFK was a conservative.
You're gonna have to do better than the Wild Cobra "it must be conservative if I approve of it" standard. And don't go pwning yourself with the "JFK cut taxes, ergo JFK is a conservative" spiel; besides drawing yet another favorable comparison to Obama's tax cuts, it also leaves out this tidbit:
There's a final problem with portraying Kennedy as the ideological kin of Reagan and Bush on tax policy. Kennedy, it turns out, initially wanted to use government spending, not tax cuts, as the means to put dollars in people's hands. But that idea ran aground in 1962 because conservatives in Congress opposed it, while the president's aides feared that the bond market might respond to additional spending with higher rates that could offset their gains. Still, even as Kennedy accepted tax reduction as the first step along the route to growth, he never gave up his spending idea. "First, we'll have your tax cut," he told Heller; "then we'll have my expenditures program."
Like scripture, it seems, John F. Kennedy can be quoted for many purposes.
At best, that makes JFK a Dubya Bush "conservative"...but then you guys are always bitching that Dubya (and the rest of the current GOP) wasn't a true conservative...whatever the hell that moving goalpost of a definition is suppose to be.
11-12-2008
DarrinS
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by PixelPusher
"You see, the challenges we face will not be solved with one meeting in one night. Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.
We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."
- Barack Obama
And how, exactly, does for calling for more troops in Afghanistan and raids against AQ in Pakistan make Obama a "dove"?
You're gonna have to do better than the Wild Cobra "it must be conservative if I approve of it" standard. And don't go pwning yourself with the "JFK cut taxes, ergo JFK is a conservative" spiel; besides drawing yet another favorable comparison to Obama's tax cuts, it also leaves out this tidbit:
At best, that makes JFK a Dubya Bush "conservative"...but then you guys are always bitching that Dubya (and the rest of the current GOP) wasn't a true conservative...whatever the hell that moving goalpost of a definition is suppose to be.
JFK was more conservative than Obama OR McCain.
And JFK would've NEVER has this ad.
11-12-2008
implacable44
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by MaryAnnKilledGinger
Are you upset because your guys are just as corrupt as the liberal boneheads you've listed, or are you upset because the liberal ones were too smart to get caught and your guys couldn't even slide under the radar during eight years of a Republican political orgy?
You really shouldn't worry. I'm sure your guys will all be pardoned in a month or so.
If they didn't get caught then how come we all know about the bad things they did ?
11-12-2008
rr2418
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
I have to say that I agree with DarrinS. All those people looked like they were in a daze, some even raising up the arms like when they're praying to God!
11-12-2008
TheMadHatter
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
If you don't understand the appeal Obama has to America......you're probably white and you're probably from the South.
11-12-2008
MaNuMaNiAc
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by TheMadHatter
If you don't understand the appeal Obama has to America......you're probably white and you're probably from the South.
if you don't understand how fucking idiotic that statement was, then you're probably retarded...
WTF does being white have to do with anything? if there is one fucking thing I dislike about Obamatards is their necessity to ALWAYS make EVERYTHING about race.
11-12-2008
Sigmund
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by implacable44
yeah...sure. kennedy should be in prison for negligent homicide..charlie rangel..mr. ethics should be in jail as well with his violations and defense of ignorance? retard. franks with his gay lover....dodd with his countrywide financed mortgage..the hypocrisy is endless with you freaking libtards.
Hrmmm. I see. You talk about gay lovers a lot.
Tell me, what do you associate with gay lovers? Do gay lovers arouse you?
11-12-2008
MaryAnnKilledGinger
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiAc
if you don't understand how fucking idiotic that statement was, then you're probably retarded...
WTF does being white have to do with anything? if there is one fucking thing I dislike about Obamatards is their necessity to ALWAYS make EVERYTHING about race.
First, race is important. Pretending like our history doesn't exist -- pretending like racism still doesn't exist -- is just silly. If race and gender and religion weren't of any bearing in America, then we wouldn't have a string of white, Christian men as the only leaders of our country since it's conception. Obama's victory is many things (some of them may prove to be bad) but the fact that America has shed its "original sin" of slavery enough to elect a man of color as our CIC is a big deal. If you don't see that and can't celebrate it even a little then you're either a racist or you're a product of our current atmosphere where race has no bearing. The previous would be unfortunate, while the latter is a good thing.
Not everything about Obama is about race. It's just stupid to ignore the race element when it's such a huge factor.
That said, I'm sure there are lots of reasons to be against Obama that aren't about race. However, if you have the deep-seeded hatred toward him that many on this board seem to express then the statement "you're probably white and probably from the south" doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.
11-29-2011
Winehole23
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
DarrinS waved goodbye to America eight days after he voted for Obama. What a patriot.
11-29-2011
cheguevara
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
DarrinS = Angeluv?
11-29-2011
Agloco
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Evidently, the article has struck a nerve. The same nerve that gives Chris Mathhews a "thrill up his leg".
A bit melodramatic no?
:cry
11-29-2011
Winehole23
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by cheguevara
DarrinS = Angeluv?
No chance.
AngelLuv is a nice lady. Whatever her faults may be, she is an honest, direct and self-disclosing person. She has character, she has passion, and she has an effing opinion.
I would say none of those things about Darrin.
11-29-2011
MannyIsGod
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
:lol
11-29-2011
Winehole23
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
Don't be bad mouthing AngelLuv now
11-29-2011
Winehole23
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by BradLohaus
I was expecting a "The Night the Lights went out in Georgia" youtube parody.
Not word for word, more lip-synched:
11-29-2011
DarrinS
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
DarrinS waved goodbye to America eight days after he voted for Obama. What a patriot.
Bumping a 3 yr old thread? Really? What's the point?
Is the country really better off than it was 3 years ago?
11-29-2011
Winehole23
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Bumping a 3 yr old thread? Really? What's the point?
...strike a nerve?
11-29-2011
Winehole23
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Is the country really better off than it was 3 years ago?
no dumbass, no one said so. except you.
11-29-2011
boutons_deux
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
"Is the country really better off than it was 3 years ago?"
so you dishonestly (surprise!) blame Obama and the Dems for the disasters they inherited from dubya, esp when Rush and Repugs want the country to fail so assholes like you and Repugs can blame it all on Obama in 2012.
11-29-2011
DarrinS
Re: The night we waved goodbye to America
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
...strike a nerve?
You're just a douche. Why not try something different and go outside today?