Sweet, the "I know you are but what am I" reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Ok, let's do this then...........I know you are but what am I?
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Sweet, the "I know you are but what am I" reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Ok, let's do this then...........I know you are but what am I?
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Not every number that an Airphone can call has the capability to record the call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
That is all that has been released. I have seen nothing saying the recordings that were actually made were lost or destroyed. My guess is there was a lot of time when nothing was said as the people Ong was speaking to were talking to other people trying to figure out what to do.Quote:
You still haven't explained why only one 4-minute segment of a 25-minute call, is all that has survived from the dozens of emergency calls made that day.
It was. It's in the article that you linked in your first post but apparently failed to read or understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Where is your evidence that she was pressured?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
The call's notes were in shorthand and subject to misinterpretation.
How would the three hijackers on FL93 take over the plane with boxcutters, after losing the element of surprise?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Why did you ask for the FAA memo, and then after I provided it, then you say it doesn't matter? You are playing a shell game.
Where does an FAA manager get the authority to change an eyewitness report from a staff member?
Where's your evidence that the notes were subject to misinterpretation? The person who took the call from Ong and/or Sweeney would know that, not Laura Brown.
The calls are lost because they contain information that contradicts the "official" fairy tale.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The calls are recorded at AA headquarters. They have to be, per regulations.
The only calls not recorded are calls to family members.
The article says that several Air Marshals have been convicted of conspiracy charges. So it is no longer a theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsmith
There is nothing that says any recordings were lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Please give me a link to those regulations.Quote:
The calls are recorded at AA headquarters. They have to be, per regulations.
Only a small proportion of flights have armed Air Marshals since 9/11. If 9/11 was really carried out by people with boxcutters, all flights should have an armed guard on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
According to the article you posted but are too stupid to understand, the number of armed air marshals has increased by 12,000% (that's twelve thousand percent) since 9/11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
They are much closer to that than they were before 9/11. There have also been many other safety measures adopted to secure the planes and especially the cockpits. Maybe you should read up on them.Quote:
If 9/11 was really carried out by people with boxcutters, all flights should have an armed guard on them.
From the notes of the 9-11 Commission Report:
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/r...port_Notes.htmQuote:
25.An early draft of an executive summary prepared by FAA security staff for the agency's leadership referred to an alleged report of a shooting aboard Flight 11.We believe this report was erroneous for a number of reasons- there is no evidence that the hijackers purchased firearms, use of a gun would be inconsistent with the otherwise common tactics employed by the hijackers, the alleged shooting victim was seated where witness accounts place the stabbing victim (9B), and, most important, neither Betty Ong nor Amy Sweeney, the only two people who communicated to the ground from aboard the aircraft, reported the presence of a gun or a shooting. Both reported knives and stabbings. AAL transcript, telephone call from Betty Ong to Nydia Gonzalez, Sept. 11, 2001;AAL transcript, telephone call from Nydia Gonzalez to Craig Marquis, Sept. 11, 2001; AAL transcript, telephone call from Nancy Wyatt to Ray Howland, Sept. 11, 2001; Michael Woodward interview (Jan. 25, 2004).The General Accounting Office looked into the gun story and was unable to corroborate it. GAO report, summary of briefing re investigation, Aug. 30, 2002.
You can buy guns on the black market. Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney did report a gun, that's why it was in the FAA memo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
This note from the commission doesn't say there wasn't a gun, they just say "we believe" there wasn't a gun, which of course leaves them covered when more evidence of the gun is released.
The transcript referred to doesn't actually give us a the transcript, or let us hear the complete tape. Nor is there a transcript of Sweeney's call mentioned, only Ong's call.
The 9/11 Commission never interviewed the people who took Ong's and Sweeney's calls, which is why it is a bogus investigation.
There were about 80 people on board, so whoever wrote the FAA memo may have had information from other passengers or staff about the gun as well. The 9/11 Commission never interviewed the person who wrote the FAA memo, another proof that the "investigation" is bogus.
Also, there was a documented gun on FL93, so why not a gun on FL11 as well?
You didn't even read the memo correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
Ong NEVER reported a gun.
What evidence?Quote:
This note from the commission doesn't say there wasn't a gun, they just say "we believe" there wasn't a gun, which of course leaves them covered when more evidence of the gun is released.
There is no transcript of Sweeney's call because it was not recorded.Quote:
The transcript referred to doesn't actually give us a the transcript, or let us hear the complete tape. Nor is there a transcript of Sweeney's call mentioned, only Ong's call.
Nydia Gonzalez was interviewed by and testified before the 9/11 Commission.Quote:
The 9/11 Commission never interviewed the people who took Ong's and Sweeney's calls, which is why it is a bogus investigation.
No. The GAO investigated the claim and found nothing.Quote:
There were about 80 people on board, so whoever wrote the FAA memo may have had information from other passengers or staff about the gun as well.
Here's Nydia Gonzalez' statement to the 9/11 Commission:
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/h...s_gonzalez.pdf
Let me know where she talks about a gun.
You have been exposed as a liar once more.
She never said there wasn't a gun. That report is way too short to describe a 25-minute phone call.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Let's cut out the middle-man and listen to the actual phone call.
Why wasn't Sweeney's call recorded? When a stewardess makes an emergency call from a flight in distress, they are always recorded.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
The person who wrote the FAA memo was not interviewed by the 9/11 Commission. Hence, a bogus "investigation".Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Also, more than one person was on the phone line, after Ong and Sweeney called in. What happened to the other people who listened?
It is easy to rig testimony when important witnesses are left out.
Also, the FAA memeo was written right after 9/11, when memories were still fresh and befor the feds could apply pressure. The 9/11 Commission testimony was taken years later and is not reliable.
You have been exposed as a liar again for the third time.
No, they are not. If the recipient doesn't have the means to record the call, it is not recorded. You are too stupid to realize this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
The 9/11 Commission is not the only investigation that ever took place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galileo
So you are calling Nydia Gonzalez, the American Airlines employee who spoke to Betty Ong right before she died, a liar. You are despicable.Quote:
It is easy to rig testimony when important witnesses are left out.
What pressure?Quote:
Also, the FAA memeo was written right after 9/11, when memories were still fresh and befor the feds could apply pressure.
Sure it is.Quote:
The 9/11 Commission testimony was taken years later and is not reliable.
I haven't lied once. This thread is filled with your lies.Quote:
You have been exposed as a liar again for the third time.