WTC 7 CIA Field Office Records Exempt From Disclosure

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Originally Posted by Galileo

Give me an example of a Founding Father promoting government secrecy? There aren't many.

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If there are any, your statement that "The Founding Fathers, none of them, approved of government secrecy" is categorically false, since you seem to acknowledge that there was at least some degree of government secrecy at the founding of the nation.

What's funny about this request is that even if the FOIA request was satisfied by the production of documents sought, the Truther crowd would never accept the possibility that the function of that office was anything other than a front to facilitate the destruction of 9/11. If those documents said that the office functioned to keep close tabs on foreign diplomats, on the Mayor of New York City, or to bake cakes for the annual CIA bakesale, the immediate response from those who believe in nonsense like false flag operations and whatnot would be "They're lying."

This is so stupid.

Loose Change!!!!!!!!!!:cheer

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Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

If there are any, your statement that "The Founding Fathers, none of them, approved of government secrecy" is categorically false, since you seem to acknowledge that there was at least some degree of government secrecy at the founding of the nation.

What's funny about this request is that even if the FOIA request was satisfied by the production of documents sought, the Truther crowd would never accept the possibility that the function of that office was anything other than a front to facilitate the destruction of 9/11. If those documents said that the office functioned to keep close tabs on foreign diplomats, on the Mayor of New York City, or to bake cakes for the annual CIA bakesale, the immediate response from those who believe in nonsense like false flag operations and whatnot would be "They're lying."

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The CIA office turned off the fire alarms.

Nobody turned off the fire alarm.

Quit lying.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Nobody turned off the fire alarm.

Quit lying.

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The alarms were turned OFF normal status.

Great, Now don't go back to lying about their being turned off.

so it doesnt mention them in the 9/11 commision report?

No. That wasn't a WTC7 building performance report.

Have you read the WTC7 report?

well cut them some slack, only left out one minor detail in a report so comprehensive

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The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission), an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002, is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks. The Commission is also mandated to provide recommendations designed to guard against future attacks

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WTC7 was not important to this particular report.

Have you read the WTC7 report?

Yes or no.

no post it

http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/NCSTAR1Aindex.htm

Enjoy.

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Originally Posted by Galileo

The CIA office turned off the fire alarms.

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Thanks for proving my point.

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Originally Posted by mookie2001

so it doesnt mention them in the 9/11 commision report?

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No, the fire alarms are mentioned in the NIST report. The 9/11 Commission report never reported that WTC 7 fell down.

All the alarms in WTC 7 were turned off at 6:47 A.M. on the morning of 9/11.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Great, Now don't go back to lying about their being turned off.

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At what time on 9/11 were authorities alerted by the alarms in WTC 7?

Where is the data from the alarm system showing the time and location of each office fire?

Oh, that's right, aw shucks, the alarms were turned off. At 6:47 A.M., just before the hijacker's planes took off.

Bin Laden snuck right past the nose of the CIA (since tha alarm data showing security swipes was also turned off). He must have used Cheney's security card.

Bullshit, meet wall.

Does it stick.... oooh nope. Sorry thanks for playing the "Throw shit at the wall" game.

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Originally Posted by Galileo

At what time on 9/11 were authorities alerted by the alarms in WTC 7?

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After WTC 1 fell on it and started multiple fires.

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Where is the data from the alarm system showing the time and location of each office fire?

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Since the alarm was set to test as was the routine, it sent no specific location data, but did send the time data and a general fire alarm.

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Oh, that's right, aw shucks, the alarms were turned off. At 6:47 A.M., just before the hijacker's planes took off.

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The alarms were not turned off. And it's not like there weren't any firemen in the area when WTC 7 caught fire. They were just rather busy with other issues at the time. WTC 7 was completely evacuated by the time it caught fire, and once the dust cleared from the north tower collapse, it was obvious WTC 7 was ablaze. There just wasn't anything they could do about it because the city's water supply had been disrupted by the collapse of two large buildings. There is evidence the sprinklers in the upper floors of WTC 7 did indeed work since they had their own water supply, but the lower floor sprinklers were fed by the city supply. The lower floors were where the collapse initiated.