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The thing that puzzled me the most was that in the Phoenix comback win, Pop was just clearing the lane, and letting Manu work from the top. If he would have done that maybe 3 times when Karl put Buckner on Tony, I guarantee you that Karl would have come off that defense. Tony would have OWN3D him on a clearout. Adjustments to adjustments are Pop's weakest point.
"Adjustments to adjustments are Pop's weakest point"
Think its' a "guy" thing? Does Pop think "the other coach made an effective adjusment. I refuse to admit that and refuse make a counter-adjustive. I'll just dumb-down, go to 4-down, half-court slow-down shit, etc"
Several people have comlained a lot of times about Pop's failures, rigidities "in-game".
He sure the hell blew it big time vs Phil Jackson last May.
fire pop.
TPark, I dont' want Pop fired, I'd just like to see him adjust better. You don't have Tim, you don't have Manu. Your best weapon is Tony, and they're stiffling him on the P'n'R with a bigger, albeit slower defender. RUN SOME FUCKING CLEAROUTS TO GET THEM OUT OF THAT DEFENSE. He had enough confidence in Manu to do that in PHO game 2, and the world didn't end, and Manu didn't forget how the offense ran when Tim came back.
He obviously doesn't have that confidence in parker.
I agree, but I think that's a bad thing. You think Tony doesn't see that? How can Pop expect him to lead the Spurs and be clutch, when he doesn't trust him to run a few clearouts?Quote:
He obviously doesn't have that confidence in parker.
I'm not proposing to unleash him on clearouts for the rest of the game. If Pop had done it maybe 3-4 times, Karl is smart enough to come out of that defense. Just instruct Tony to run it a few times, and then any time therafter where he sees Bucker coming to guard him. Believe me, Karl is NOT going to run a defense where his guy is getting undressed for too long.
Eh.
Hindsights 20/20.
MOnday Im sure well see more Nazr Mohammed and more clear outs for Parker.
Maybe. Pop clearly is a "system guy". He believes if you execute his system properly, it doesn't matter what the other team does. I think it was Horry who said that the Spurs spend less time specifically preparing for any particular opponent than any team he's ever been on.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons
Wooden and Knight were/are other notorious system guys.
It clearly works when you have a talent edge. But when you're going up against equal talent with a coach who is as good or better (i.e., PJax), then you have to be able to make adjustments.
Parker just froze a bit. Pop certainly should've had another option there, but Tony easily got enough space for a good shot. Had he done it sooner there may have been an opportunity for another 3pt attempt.
Two of the greatest coaches in basketball history.Quote:
Wooden and Knight were/are other notorious system guys.
????
"in basketball history"
selectively ignoring "in COLLEGIATE basketball history". Had they been equally successful in the NBA, or even coached in the NBA, then the comment is useful.
Tpark:
Pop even admits he fucked up, but you still defend him. Do you realize how stupid you sound?Quote:
Popovich took the blame for both possessions.
"I don't think I did a very good job of putting them in position for a second and third option," he said. "They took away our first option, and we kind of held the ball."
ex nailed it... Pop's weakness is an inability to adjust to another coach's adjustment. Last year it was Phil packing the lane taking away Tony and Tim, and Pop failing to adjust.
A few years back in the various other LA meltdowns, it was LA doing the same thing, and Pop still forcing it into Tim.
Pop can't adjust realtime in a game. It takes him at least a game, if not a whole series, to figure it out, and often times in the past it's taken him the off-season to figure it out.
Pop says he fucked up, and Tpark still comes on here with his mocking "fire Pop" nonsense. Admit the man fucked up and move on. His own words says he messed up, recognize and admit defeat.
And because they were college coaches, at least 75% of the time they were starting with a huge talent advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by boutons
Easier to ignore what the opponent is doing when you have that.
It's a pretty weak coaching comparison, go look up how many titles Wooden and Knight had (not to mention their team's talent level relative to other teams they were competing against), and get back to me. Pop's not in their league yet.
Probably the most maddening thing about Pop is every one of his playoff failures have come about after teams made exactly ONE defensive adjustment on him, and have resulted in a spectacular failure with him failing to adjust.
That's pretty funny to assume something can be done when your number one and two options are taken away at once.Quote:
Last year it was Phil packing the lane taking away Tony and Tim
There are three other people on the court, am I right? I could have sworn we got to play five on five like everyone else...