Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
gino aint worth 8-10m in 2010...i dont give a shit about loyalty contract we should give him, business is business....if he gets a better offer somewhere else to cash in his last big contract then good for him. But seriously 8-10m for ginoboli off the bench? no....his only worth MLE in 2010+
Says you. Lets say he only gets 5 million. That would only leave 9-11 million and that does not land you a max player either. Not to mention you have to fill out an entire roster while trying to avoid the luxury tax.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
gino aint worth 8-10m in 2010...i dont give a shit about loyalty contract we should give him, business is business....if he gets a better offer somewhere else to cash in his last big contract then good for him. But seriously 8-10m for ginoboli off the bench? no....his only worth MLE in 2010+
Manu will get a 2 year $20 mil extension and he'll be well worth it.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Says you. Lets say he only gets 5 million. That would only leave 9-11 million and that does not land you a max player either. Not to mention you have to fill out an entire roster while trying to avoid the luxury tax.
simply filling out the roster while staying below the tax line wont be hard at all. all we would have to offer are min contracts along with the BAE (a hair over 2 mil).
now filling it out with players that dont suck, thats going to be the really, really hard part.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
The BAE still counts against the cap, so if the Spurs are wanting to max somebody out they have to give up the BAE too. Moot point though since the Spurs won't be in that situation.
2009:
- Gooden
- extension for Manu
- possibly Gist
2010:
- MLE
- hopefully Splitter
- draft pick
BAE used in one of those years.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
coyotes_geek
The BAE still counts against the cap, so if the Spurs are wanting to max somebody out they have to give up the BAE too.
correct as usual. was still using some of my pre-economy flop figures. totally slipped my mind. thanks.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
coyotes_geek
The BAE still counts against the cap, so if the Spurs are wanting to max somebody out they have to give up the BAE too. Moot point though since the Spurs won't be in that situation.
2009:
- Gooden
- extension for Manu
- possibly Gist
2010:
- MLE
- hopefully Splitter
- draft pick
BAE used in one of those years.
This sounds like a very reasonable plan. Maybe Sheed instead of Gooden if possible. Of course this depends very much on how he'll fit in the team, so we'll see.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
so instead of tryin to bring in a top FA
we throw a chunk of the capspace to ginoboli and try to win a ring again with the 3 cores with rookies and vets on the cheaps? if we aint winnin it this year or next year, why continue if we know this team aint competitive?
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
xtremesteven33
Shaqs goal isnt to win championships anymore. His goal is to get as many points possible and crack top 5 all time.
These kind of comments are an epic kind of ignorant and stupid.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
DUNCANownsKOBE
These kind of comments are an epic kind of ignorant and stupid.
????
WTF
He has said himself that his goal is to break scoring records. Before you insult, know your own team :rolleyes
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
so instead of tryin to bring in a top FA
we throw a chunk of the capspace to ginoboli and try to win a ring again with the 3 cores with rookies and vets on the cheaps? if we aint winnin it this year or next year, why continue if we know this team aint competitive?
Because the alternative is to give up on the 09-10 season before it's even started by not doing anything in offseason 2009 just so that you can hope that the Spurs are able to convince a big name to sign here in 2010. And those hopes depend on that big name being willing to take less than the max. Not very good odds of that happening IMO.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
TDMVPDPOY
so instead of tryin to bring in a top FA
we throw a chunk of the capspace to ginoboli and try to win a ring again with the 3 cores with rookies and vets on the cheaps? if we aint winnin it this year or next year, why continue if we know this team aint competitive?
If we assume that the players we're after are Bosh/JJohnson/Amare types, then we stand no chance to get them unless we offer the max possible, which would probably start at about $15-17M. Even if we dump Hill, Gist, all picks,not use the MLE this sumemr, not re-sign Manu and Mason, we still will not be able to fill up the roster unless we sign total garbage on min contracts. In that case we'd have to rely on an aging Duncan to play 40+ mins for the whole season and playoffs. Such a team would have no chance to win a championship.
We can't afford to have 2 max contracts ( Duncan, FA ) and a 3rd very big one ( Parker ).We've never been able to and we most certainly won't be able to afford it in the stagnating economy and cap by 2010. The reason we have 3 all stars right now is that both Parker and Manu are blatantly underpaid. No way any star is underpaid in 2010 because there are too many teams with lots of money to offer, so it wouldn't be realistic to expect to get someone for less than their market value.
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
If the Spurs don't win it all this year I think we will see major core changes that might make the 2010 plan mot. I believe I remember Tony Parker talking about this in an interview earlier this year.
Here is the link I found, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...85#post2798685
Re: Spurs Plans for 2010?
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Originally Posted by
Chomag
If the Spurs don't win it all this year I think we will see major core changes that might make the 2010 plan mot. I believe I remember Tony Parker talking about this in an interview earlyer this year.
Here is the link I found,
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...85#post2798685
Ya, that is the thread I started. I think what we have concluded is that some of the mainstays will be gone, but none of the big 3. No more Bowen, Oberto...
This still does not change the actuality of the situation. Spurs will not be signing a max player. If Gino is healthy, he will get an extension.