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Re: Rockets Up Pressure On Spurs
The Rockets and Spurs are about as even a matchup as you can get, just one Michael Finley half court heave in the last game decided it...
Now, back in San Antonio...
Actually, Houston sort of blew the division this year...back in November up 10 with 4 minutes to go, when Tmac came in took the ball away from our PG and proceded to jack up clank after clank and the Spurs rallied.
I was sitting center court on that one....yikes !!
These two teams are about even in talent, with the Spurs having an edge in mental discipline...
Personally I hope they get the 2 and 3 seed and meet in the 2nd round...it would be a low scoring defensive WAR.
DD
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If the Rockets win this game they will have a better conference record by a half-game. Conference record is the tie-breaker after head to head matchups.
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Rockets play good defense. The only thing I don't get is Adleman's rotation or subsitution pattern and I don't think Adleman gets it himself. Adleman admitted during one interview that he didn't get the substitution thing. When he started he played Yao the entire game no breaks. 48 Freaking minutes! Now at least he's holding him to 35 min per game but also he never plays Deke who is supposed to be Yao's backup. C'mon if you brought Deke to be Yao's backup then you expect Deke to play about 10 mpg. I suppose that Landry and Scola can play backup center but it's not the same with a 7 foot shot blocker in the middle. You give up scoring but you pick up rebounding and blocks with Deke.
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Originally Posted by
tlongII
If the Rockets win this game they will have a better conference record by a half-game. Conference record is the tie-breaker after head to head matchups.
Loss column
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SpursFanInAustin
Loss column
Win column... If the Rockets win tomorrow, they will have two more wins than the Spurs and one more loss than the Spurs. They will also have a slightly higher winning percentage. (Spurs: .6522 ; Rockets: .6528)
I don't get what your deal is with the loss column. We'd still have two more wins.
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Ron Ron Artest
Win column... If the Rockets win tomorrow, they will have two more wins than the Spurs and one more loss than the Spurs. They will also have a slightly higher winning percentage. (Spurs: .6522 ; Rockets: .6528)
I don't get what your deal is with the loss column. We'd still have two more wins.
Won't matter..the Spurs won't lose tomorrow.
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Last time I checked, the Spurs were STILL ahead of Houston. Let's talk about this after Sunday afternoon.
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Rogue
spurs will be an absolute different team when the postseason comes, what the spurs are doing is just saving energy and confusing their rivals with their pretendingly bad performances.
Rockets actually look good recently, but i still don't see any hope the rockets will make the second round this season. without tmac the rockets still can play good in the regular season but the postseason is quite different. rockets fans always blame tmac for their fails in the postseason ignoring the fact that tmac is their most effective player in the playoffs.
It is usually a mavs fan that dogs tmac and the rox for not getting out of the first round. Now, you find more and more rox fans who do the same as you said. Tmac WAS our most effective player and rung up the stats b/c short of Yao, there was no one else who could score on their own and or draw a double team. That is not the case as the rox have numerous, young athletic scoring options and great defenders individually and as a team. Yao does need to play mad, if that happens watch out. Tmac is not able to play team ball and thus does not work in adelman's system--he does not move without the ball, cut, set picks etc--he either runs isos when healthy, jack up a j shot that seems to never go in now and shoot low %tage 3s or just sit at the key and pass the ball--never drives, attacks, etc.......Rox play better without him--but in the playoffs the team will have to work their magic to close out close games by defending, no turnovers, attacking, cutting, and making freethrows and riding yao's dominance and the rox depth. I just don't want Utah in the first round as that is a matchup issue and the refs shove their whistles deep up their assholes and only use them if someone is decapitated. Oh, and with Ron A., he will either wow you with superstar 3s, raming it down the middle to the hole, defending, stealing and sealing the game with a clutch shot or he will be cold from the field, lose the ball and or refuse to defer to Yao. I hope it's the former.
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crc21209
Should be a good game, but the Spurs will bounce back for sure. This loss tonight stings bad....another thing...I hate when ppl say that we're up 1/2 a game or whatever, we have 23 losses, Houston has 25. End of story for now...we're up 2 on them in the L column..
I really don't understand why sportscasters do that. Maybe it's to not confuse the lay-person.
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Originally Posted by
Ron Ron Artest
Win column... If the Rockets win tomorrow, they will have two more wins than the Spurs and one more loss than the Spurs. They will also have a slightly higher winning percentage. (Spurs: .6522 ; Rockets: .6528)
I don't get what your deal is with the loss column. We'd still have two more wins.
The maximum wins you could have at the end of the season would still be less though. If teams didn't play the same amount of games your point might be valid; But since they do, the loss column is the only one that matters.
To illustrate my point, simply project each teams record to 82 games if they won all of their remaining games.
Spurs 59-23; Rockets 57-25
It's not possible for the Rockets to win more than 57, while the Spurs can still win 59. even with a loss to you on Sunday, that maximum falls to 58, still more than the Rockets.
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Agloco
The maximum wins you could have at the end of the season would still be less though. If teams didn't play the same amount of games your point might be valid; But since they do, the loss column is the only one that matters.
To illustrate my point, simply project each teams record to 82 games if they won all of their remaining games.
Spurs 59-23; Rockets 57-25
It's not possible for the Rockets to win more than 57, while the Spurs can still win 59. even with a loss to you on Sunday, that maximum falls to 58, still more than the Rockets.
I realize they can still win more games than the rockets, but what does that have to do with pointing out the loss column at this point. Its the same thing as pointing out the win column... both wont matter until all the games are played anyway. Besides, when the rockets win tomorrow, they will still have a higher winning percentage by a very small margin
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tlongII
If the Rockets win this game they will have a better conference record by a half-game. Conference record is the tie-breaker after head to head matchups.
No... You're wrong.
TWO-WAY TIES
1. Results of games against each other.
2. Better winning percentage within own division (only if tied teams are in same division).
3. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
4. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
5. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
6. Better point differential between offense and defense.
Playoff Tiebreaker explanation
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/7164305
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The Rockets still have 2 more losses than us....only reason they would "take the divison lead" is because they have played 1 or 2 more games than us and have 1 more win than us as well...
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Ron Ron Artest
Win column... If the Rockets win tomorrow, they will have two more wins than the Spurs and one more loss than the Spurs. They will also have a slightly higher winning percentage. (Spurs: .6522 ; Rockets: .6528)
I don't get what your deal is with the loss column. We'd still have two more wins.
Well if Houston manages to beat SA Sunday, and both teams win out thereafter, since Houston has played more games up to this point, SA would finish 58-24 and Houston at 57-25, thus making the loss column more magnifying than the wins.
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SpursFanInAustin
Well if Houston manages to beat SA Sunday, and both teams win out thereafter, since Houston has played more games up to this point, SA would finish 58-24 and Houston at 57-25, thus making the loss column more magnifying than the wins.
That is why I think this whole "Game for the Divison lead on the line" crap is kinda dumb, because to me right now the important thing is the loss column, and Houston still has 2 more L's than us right now.
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Having the #2 spot, is good not just for HCA but the #2 seed wouldn't face the Lakers until the WCF.
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Originally Posted by
Agloco
The maximum wins you could have at the end of the season would still be less though. If teams didn't play the same amount of games your point might be valid; But since they do, the loss column is the only one that matters.
To illustrate my point, simply project each teams record to 82 games if they won all of their remaining games.
Spurs 59-23; Rockets 57-25
It's not possible for the Rockets to win more than 57, while the Spurs can still win 59. even with a loss to you on Sunday, that maximum falls to 58, still more than the Rockets.
Exactly, what people need to understand is that all NBA teams play 81 games. The spurs have less losses and 1 more win that means they have more games left to play
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Allanon
Having the #2 spot, is good not just for HCA but the #2 seed wouldn't face the Lakers until the WCF.
The #3 seed wouldn't face the Lakers until the WCF either.
And don't forget the Hornets.
It's a 3 teams race for the SW division.
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sook
Exactly, what people need to understand is that all NBA teams play 81 games. The spurs have less losses and 1 more win that means they have more games left to play
That's weird. I thought all NBA teams played 82 games?
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djohn2oo8
Amen!!! The division lead means nothing, oh yeah and ask how the 2007 Mavs fared as the #1 seed. Rockets can beat anybody when they are on their game, they can win a first round series, but it's going to take the elements of a miracle to beat the lakers in round 2
The irony of it all with T Mac being out. :wow
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Ron Ron Artest
I realize they can still win more games than the rockets, but what does that have to do with pointing out the loss column at this point. Its the same thing as pointing out the win column... both wont matter until all the games are played anyway. Besides, when the rockets win tomorrow, they will still have a higher winning percentage by a very small margin
Looking beyond this will only confuse you young grasshopper.....
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Originally Posted by
tlongII
If the Rockets win this game they will have a better conference record by a half-game. Conference record is the tie-breaker after head to head matchups.
Thought it was divisional records first?
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This game is so NOT the game everyone is building it up to be.
The Houston Rockets challenging the Spurs for the #2 seed? No.
The Rockets might come out, make a few shots, get some calls here and there, but no one is intimidated by them...the Spurs win this one by the beginning of the 4th. I doubt TD and TP even play in the 4th. Again, not a big game...
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SpursDynasty
This game is so NOT the game everyone is building it up to be.
The Houston Rockets challenging the Spurs for the #2 seed? No.
The Rockets might come out, make a few shots, get some calls here and there, but no one is intimidated by them...the Spurs win this one by the beginning of the 4th. I doubt TD and TP even play in the 4th. Again, not a big game...
Good, that's much better than being a target such as the Lakers
