A New Challenger Rises in the Southwest

The Spurs just played a team that can seriously contend for a title. The Rockets (rockettes, sprockets) have been ridiculed as being post-Dream has-beens. But the reality is that they have always been that one piece, or piece of luck, away from being a true contender.

After always being labeled as a one-and-done playoff team, they are starting to show signs that they will finally break that habit, and sooner rather than later. Without T-Mac, they are winning as a team and everyone is playing hard, buying into the defensive game, while also playing steady offense.

The one hole, and X-factor, I see with their team is Aaron Brooks. If he can continue to learn the facilitator role and demonstrate he can handle playoff-type pressure -- pressure defense he was shown at times today -- the Rockets will exit the first round victorious and find themselves on a nice long/long overdue playoff run.

I see their chemistry improving just as the Spurs typically do in March. They look healthy, finally, and ready to challenge in the West as a dark horse.

I do agree they have clearly improved and have become another very good Western conference team, but I don't see them getting past the Spurs in a 7 game series or the Lakers for that matter. Thus, I do not believe they will be vying for the LOB against the Eastern conference winner.

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

The Spurs just played a team that can seriously contend for a title. The Rockets (rockettes, sprockets) have been ridiculed as being post-Dream has-beens. But the reality is that they have always been that one piece, or piece of luck, away from being a true contender.

After always being labeled as a one-and-done playoff team, they are starting to show signs that they will finally break that habit, and sooner rather than later. Without T-Mac, they are winning as a team and everyone is playing hard, buying into the defensive game, while also playing steady offense.

The one hole, and X-factor, I see with their team is Aaron Brooks. If he can continue to learn the facilitator role and demonstrate he can handle playoff-type pressure -- pressure defense he was shown at times today -- the Rockets will exit the first round victorious and find themselves on a nice long/long overdue playoff run.

I see their chemistry improving just as the Spurs typically do in March. They look healthy, finally, and ready to challenge in the West as a dark horse.

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:rolleyes

All my SpursTalk Cash: ($7650) says one and done.

The Rockets play Utah next. Easily a loss for Rockets. The Spurs back at first in the SW division.

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Originally Posted by rapliketp

The Rockets play Utah next. Easily a loss for Rockets. The Spurs back at first in the SW division.

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No way the Rox win in Utah. We should be fine. Houston's next four games are at Utah, vs. Clippers, at Phoenix, and at the Lakers. We on the other hand only play 2 winning teams in the next 6 games. We got the Warriors, Hawks, Clippers, Hornets, Thunder, and Pacers.

oh I think the rockets is a team without T-MAC
they played very hard tonight everyone should respect them

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Originally Posted by spursmania

i do agree they have clearly improved and have become another very good western conference team, but i don't see them getting past the spurs in a 7 game series or the lakers for that matter. Thus, i do not believe they will be vying for the lob against the eastern conference winner.

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Originally Posted by RocketsYAO11

oh I think the rockets is a team without T-MAC
they played very hard tonight everyone should respect them

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I think we actually DO respect them, but it's not that we think they could beat us in a 7 game series that's all.

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

I do agree they have clearly improved and have become another very good Western conference team, but I don't see them getting past the Spurs in a 7 game series or the Lakers for that matter. Thus, I do not believe they will be vying for the LOB against the Eastern conference winner.

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^ Pretty much the consensus opinion for us Rockets fans. We do still have a lot of room for improvement.

Meh, I'm not worried about the Spurs losing to the Rockets in a series. With Thomas to defend Yao, Udoka and Bowen to defend Artest and Parker in playoff defense mode defending Brooks ... I'd say the Spurs matchup extremely well with Houston. As long as the Big Three were healthy, I can't imagine the Spurs losing to the Rockets.

I bet Udoka's willing to pay for the Rockets to fly back and play the Spurs again tomorrow.

He was single handedly destroying the Rockets and then Pop pulled him when he was RED HOT.

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

The Spurs just played a team that can seriously contend for a title. The Rockets (rockettes, sprockets) have been ridiculed as being post-Dream has-beens. But the reality is that they have always been that one piece, or piece of luck, away from being a true contender.

After always being labeled as a one-and-done playoff team, they are starting to show signs that they will finally break that habit, and sooner rather than later. Without T-Mac, they are winning as a team and everyone is playing hard, buying into the defensive game, while also playing steady offense.

The one hole, and X-factor, I see with their team is Aaron Brooks. If he can continue to learn the facilitator role and demonstrate he can handle playoff-type pressure -- pressure defense he was shown at times today -- the Rockets will exit the first round victorious and find themselves on a nice long/long overdue playoff run.

I see their chemistry improving just as the Spurs typically do in March. They look healthy, finally, and ready to challenge in the West as a dark horse.

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you lost me at 'seriously'.:wakeup

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Originally Posted by timvp

Meh, I'm not worried about the Spurs losing to the Rockets in a series. With Thomas to defend Yao, Udoka and Bowen to defend Artest and Parker in playoff defense mode defending Brooks ... I'd say the Spurs matchup extremely well with Houston. As long as the Big Three were healthy, I can't imagine the Spurs losing to the Rockets.

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yeah i don't imagine the spurs losing to the rockets in the playoffs either. with a healthy team, the spurs can match up with any team not named the lakers. i would still like the rockets to drop two spaces, though, and face the lakers instead. rockets can still take on the lakers, especially if bynum is still not at fulls strength. brooks would burn fisher, rockets can throw artest and battier on bryant, and yao would own gasol. scola can probabaly defend odom pretty well and the rockets are just as deep as the lakers. i don't want the spurs to eliminate the rockets and in the process get rid of a legitimate challenger for the lakers.

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Originally Posted by whottt

I bet Udoka's willing to pay for the Rockets to fly back and play the Spurs again tomorrow.

He was single handedly destroying the Rockets and then Pop pulled him when he was RED HOT.

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Originally Posted by urunobili

uselss if Pop is going to a sloppy Mason and Fin at the end of the game.. doesn;t matter how hot u got... he's gonna fucking bench you...

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I admire the Spurs organization but the spurs havent been playing at some high level above the rest of the west. The only clear favorite team to come out the west is Lakers. Spurs continue to blow leads, lose close games, and lose big games. No game seems to be of importance. Against lakers it was no big deal its just the regular season, the loss to Boston it was no big deal its just regular season, the loss to Rockets in a game against a divisional team to take sole position of the 2nd seed but its no big deal.

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Originally Posted by screw_ston713

I admire the Spurs organization but the spurs havent been playing at some high level above the rest of the west. The only clear favorite team to come out the west is Lakers. Spurs continue to blow leads, lose close games, and lose big games. No game seems to be of importance. Against lakers it was no big deal its just the regular season, the loss to Boston it was no big deal its just regular season, the loss to Rockets in a game against a divisional team to take sole position of the 2nd seed but its no big deal.

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That is called rationalizing.

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Originally Posted by tlongII

That is called rationalizing.

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No, it's called realizing when a win is really essential. It's called recognizing when you need to win and when you'd like to win. The playoffs versus regular season games. The playoffs are must wins, no other game really is. We'd like to win them but they are not must wins. Now Playoffs? Those games are all that matters. It's where Champions are made and those, my friends, are what the Spurs live for.

:smokin

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

The Spurs just played a team that can seriously contend for a title. The Rockets (rockettes, sprockets) have been ridiculed as being post-Dream has-beens. But the reality is that they have always been that one piece, or piece of luck, away from being a true contender.

After always being labeled as a one-and-done playoff team, they are starting to show signs that they will finally break that habit, and sooner rather than later. Without T-Mac, they are winning as a team and everyone is playing hard, buying into the defensive game, while also playing steady offense.

The one hole, and X-factor, I see with their team is Aaron Brooks. If he can continue to learn the facilitator role and demonstrate he can handle playoff-type pressure -- pressure defense he was shown at times today -- the Rockets will exit the first round victorious and find themselves on a nice long/long overdue playoff run.

I see their chemistry improving just as the Spurs typically do in March. They look healthy, finally, and ready to challenge in the West as a dark horse.

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I applaud your unbiased approach

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Originally Posted by timvp

Meh, I'm not worried about the Spurs losing to the Rockets in a series. With Thomas to defend Yao, Udoka and Bowen to defend Artest and Parker in playoff defense mode defending Brooks ... I'd say the Spurs matchup extremely well with Houston. As long as the Big Three were healthy, I can't imagine the Spurs losing to the Rockets.

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See that's what I thought about the Rockets during the game. Except vice-versa: Yao was defending Duncan, Artest was defending the wings, Scola was schooling Bonner and Brooks was doing his best with Parker. The issue I am concerned with is whether Duncan will morph into Playoff Duncan. Because Yao, when uninjured, has had no problems stepping up his game in the playoffs, and we can assume Parker will perform. But can this team win, even against the Rockets, with one superstar at 100%?

If Manu comes back and has an impact, will Artest be able to slow him down?

Spurs over Rockets in 5

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

I see their chemistry improving just as the Spurs typically do in March. They look healthy, finally, and ready to challenge in the West as a dark horse.

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Isn't that the same rederick we hear from Rockets fans every year? How high were they last season when they rode that 20 game win streak. How'd that work out in postseason?

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Originally Posted by arodz

Isn't that the same rederick we hear from Rockets fans every year? How high were they last season when they rode that 20 game win streak. How'd that work out in postseason?

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But, to be fair, this is a new year and possibly a rockets team with a new attitude. This team has the talent to go far if they can put it together on all sides of the ball.

Rockets and Blazers will be the easiest matchups for Spurs in the first round of the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by xtremesteven33

Spurs over Rockets in 5

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

The Spurs just played a team that can seriously contend for a title. The Rockets (rockettes, sprockets) have been ridiculed as being post-Dream has-beens. But the reality is that they have always been that one piece, or piece of luck, away from being a true contender.

After always being labeled as a one-and-done playoff team, they are starting to show signs that they will finally break that habit, and sooner rather than later. Without T-Mac, they are winning as a team and everyone is playing hard, buying into the defensive game, while also playing steady offense.

The one hole, and X-factor, I see with their team is Aaron Brooks. If he can continue to learn the facilitator role and demonstrate he can handle playoff-type pressure -- pressure defense he was shown at times today -- the Rockets will exit the first round victorious and find themselves on a nice long/long overdue playoff run.

I see their chemistry improving just as the Spurs typically do in March. They look healthy, finally, and ready to challenge in the West as a dark horse.

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:lol

Now they've lost that one piece and are a contender.......

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

See that's what I thought about the Rockets during the game. Except vice-versa: Yao was defending Duncan, Artest was defending the wings, Scola was schooling Bonner and Brooks was doing his best with Parker. The issue I am concerned with is whether Duncan will morph into Playoff Duncan. Because Yao, when uninjured, has had no problems stepping up his game in the playoffs, and we can assume Parker will perform. But can this team win, even against the Rockets, with one superstar at 100%?

If Manu comes back and has an impact, will Artest be able to slow him down?

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Artest can't defend Manu.

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Originally Posted by Agloco

Artest can't defend Manu.

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This is true.

But when Manu drives to the basket, Artest can can knock him silly.

It will be considered a 'playoff foul' and 'tough basketball.'

I'd rather not see this happen.

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Originally Posted by Spursmania

I do agree they have clearly improved and have become another very good Western conference team, but I don't see them getting past the Spurs in a 7 game series or the Lakers for that matter. Thus, I do not believe they will be vying for the LOB against the Eastern conference winner.

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I still think they are a cuople years away.

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Originally Posted by screw_ston713

I admire the Spurs organization but the spurs havent been playing at some high level above the rest of the west. The only clear favorite team to come out the west is Lakers. Spurs continue to blow leads, lose close games, and lose big games. No game seems to be of importance. Against lakers it was no big deal its just the regular season, the loss to Boston it was no big deal its just regular season, the loss to Rockets in a game against a divisional team to take sole position of the 2nd seed but its no big deal.

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Originally Posted by tlongII

That is called rationalizing.

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Since our 2 and 5 start , the Spurs are 43-19 including the LA, Boston, Cleveland and Houston losses. Factor in that Manu has been out for 30 games and Tim's knees are bad and have been the entire season, you're hard-pressed to call our record anything short of great.

It's called experience based on a decade plus of championship caliber basketball. Clearly a foreign concept to you, tlongII.

So if rockets and spurs meet in second round, who would guard Artest??? Finley anyone???

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Originally Posted by djohn2oo8

So if rockets and spurs meet in second round, who would guard Artest??? Finley anyone???

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Finley/Bowen

spinkle in Udoka

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Originally Posted by Yuixafun

spinkle in Udoka

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Nah, Artest is too strong for Emo Sudoku. Better stick with Bowen/Finley.:p:

Emo Sudoku, grin that's clever.


So that whole story about him Kung fuuing his way out of Africa was a farce? And here I thought we had a black belt in our pocket.

Rockets should do whatever it takes to avoid Utah. If it means holding on to the second seed so be it. If Utah is holding the 7th seed, then we should just tank and let the Spurs play them. We don't want to come out of the first round injured banged up and bruised because that is what Sloan and his Thugs will do.

lol.. the Jazz... Sloan Thugs and Harmony

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Originally Posted by Yuixafun

lol.. the Jazz... Sloan Thugs and Harmony

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Sloan thugs and Harpring

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Originally Posted by Yuixafun

Emo Sudoku, grin that's clever.


So that whole story about him Kung fuuing his way out of Africa was a farce? And here I thought we had a black belt in our pocket.

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Blackbelt? oooh, I'm sure Artest would be really scared now.

Better, Harping should be singled out.

I doubt that either the Rockets or the Spurs will make it out of the 1st round. Unless they play each other. Then one of them has to.

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Originally Posted by Many PackYao

Blackbelt? oooh, I'm sure Artest would be really scared now.

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It's not like Artest went into the stands to pick a fight with some huge guy, I don't remember exactly, but he went after someone average.. sounds like a bully to me.

If he and Udoka went at it, and Artest got hit hard once, I think he would run off shocked trying to hold in tears, suprised someone fought back.

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Originally Posted by arodz

Isn't that the same rederick we hear from Rockets fans every year? How high were they last season when they rode that 20 game win streak. How'd that work out in postseason?

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every rational rockets fan knew that we aint going to beat the Jizz last year without Yao. we were just hoping to drag the series as long as possible to fuck up the Jizz's title run (and we actually did :toast)

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I doubt that either the Rockets or the Spurs will make it out of the 1st round. Unless they play each other. Then one of them has to.

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The FrailBlazers ain't going nowhere this year either.:p:

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Originally Posted by Yuixafun

It's not like Artest went into the stands to pick a fight with some huge guy, I don't remember exactly, but he went after someone average.. sounds like a bully to me.

If he and Udoka went at it, and Artest got hit hard once, I think he would run off shocked trying to hold in tears, suprised someone fought back.

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I guess we're gonna have to get Sudoku to throw a drink at Artest and we'll find out.

Rockets will be one and done again

Manu needs to get back on the court fast because the playoffs are approaching and he needs to get the rust off.

I won't lie. I'd wouldn't mind seeing it happen.

Just a man with certain pugilistic urges.


Can hardly wait for Pacman vs Hatton, been too long since Manny fought someone that tested him.

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Originally Posted by Yuixafun

I won't lie. I'd wouldn't mind seeing it happen.

Just a man with certain pugilistic urges.


Can hardly wait for Pacman vs Hatton, been too long since Manny fought someone that tested him.

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I doubt that either the Rockets or the Spurs will make it out of the 1st round. Unless they play each other. Then one of them has to.

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:sleep Always something negative to say....

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I doubt that either the Rockets or the Spurs will make it out of the 1st round. Unless they play each other. Then one of them has to.

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You might have brain damage, both teams would wipe the floor with your team. You would either gets smashed by us or get to be the team that actually lets the Rockets win in the first round. :lmao

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I doubt that either the Rockets or the Spurs will make it out of the 1st round. Unless they play each other. Then one of them has to.

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:sleep Always something negative to say....

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And stupid to boot....

So how bout dem Fail-Blazers? WCF? Perhaps the Finals?

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Originally Posted by Indazone

Rockets should do whatever it takes to avoid Utah. If it means holding on to the second seed so be it. If Utah is holding the 7th seed, then we should just tank and let the Spurs play them. We don't want to come out of the first round injured banged up and bruised because that is what Sloan and his Thugs will do.

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To be the best or top dog, they need to play and beat teams like Utah....helps to toughen them up, at least mentally.

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I doubt that either the Rockets or the Spurs will make it out of the 1st round. Unless they play each other. Then one of them has to.

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Shut up fucktard.

The only thing that yesterday proved was how poorly the Spurs are playing and that there is likely only one true contender in the West and it isn't the Rockets or the Spurs. Right now everyone is a long way behind the Lakers and nothing the Rockets have done changes that. The Spurs have much better prospects to reaching that level but they're no where near there at the moment. It remains to be seen if they can reach it at all.

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Originally Posted by Agloco

Artest can't defend Manu.

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don't kid yourself as much as i dislike artest and hsi stupid boneheadedness he can guard anyone not named Kobe Bryant. No offense but if there was one player on the spurs i though was Overrated, it would be Ginobili. He makes you a much better team but he is a product of the system.

The rockets are playing really well right now but you have to remember they have little playoff experience and the spurs have more than enough...

If the rockets played the spurs in the playoffs, regardless of HCA it would be Spurs in 5 or 6

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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod

Right now everyone is a long way behind the Lakers and nothing the Rockets have done changes that. The Spurs have much better prospects to reaching that level but they're no where near there at the moment. It remains to be seen if they can reach it at all.

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Copy that. Right now I don't see anyone beating the Lakers in a 7 game series, especially when they hold HCA. But that's what make the playoffs interesting, right? If the Lakers were to be eliminated that would certainly be the story of the year.

I believe that PJ's record is 100% when his team wins the 1st game of a series. It would be interesting to see how they might respond to someone stealing the first game from them.

The Rockets do share with us the rare pleasure of knocking the Lakers out of the playoffs. If not us, I wouldn't mind seeing them do it as I've always admired the Rocket's franchise.

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Originally Posted by sook

don't kid yourself as much as i dislike artest and hsi stupid boneheadedness he can guard anyone not named Kobe Bryant. No offense but if there was one player on the spurs i though was Overrated, it would be Ginobili. He makes you a much better team but he is a product of the system.

The rockets are playing really well right now but you have to remember they have little playoff experience and the spurs have more than enough...

If the rockets played the spurs in the playoffs, regardless of HCA it would be Spurs in 5 or 6

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Of course he is. He's a defensive stalwart after all right?:rolleyes

Oh, and I case you missed it:

Artest can't defend Manu

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Originally Posted by Agloco

Of course he is. He's a defensive stalwart after all right?:rolleyes

Oh, and I case you missed it:

Artest can't defend Manu

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No he can't and i willl keep replying to you as long as you have the sexiest sig on ST! Whats her name btw?

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Originally Posted by sook

No he can't and i willl keep replying to you as long as you have the sexiest sig on ST! Whats her name btw?

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Paloma "Pops" Fiuza. Brazillian model. :toast

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Originally Posted by rapliketp

The Rockets play Utah next. Easily a loss for Rockets. The Spurs back at first in the SW division.

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...and with the Spurs' luck, the Rockets will win by 29.

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Originally Posted by sook

No offense but if there was one player on the spurs i though was Overrated, it would be Ginobili. He makes you a much better team but he is a product of the system.

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:rollin

If there is any one player that isn't a product of Pop's system, it's Manu. In fact, Pop has had to adjust his system to fit Manu's freelancing, ad-lib style of play.

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Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown

I believe that PJ's record is 100% when his team wins the 1st game of a series.

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I'm sorry, but I think stats like that are meaningless. A lot of those wins are based on teams with immense talent and chemistry. Put PJ on the Sixers' bench or the Heat bench and he wouldn't be posting 100%-type figures...

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...and with the Spurs' luck, the Rockets will win by 29.

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Not in Utah.