Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
Mmmm. I love me some Laker trash talk. "Keep Manu out for the season to rest his ankles...". You wish. As if anyone could keep a healthy Manu from playing... Pop would lose all his hair trying to keep that jeanie bottled up.
I am stoked to know that Manu is going to come back to add that 3rd dimension. Once he gets his rhythm back and Gooden gets on the same page, there will be a lot less scoring droughts and missed defensive plays. That means bad news for the opponents in the playoffs.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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lakaluva
No, no my friend. I have no faith in Bynum coming back and helping the Lakers, but Im not new to this sport. Ankles and knees are tough injuries on the body. Manu has some miles on his body, and maybe the best thing for this guy to do is sit out and really let his ankles heal. Rushing back when hes not needed is just going to make his injuries worse, (Arenas, Grant Hill.)
With Manu's style of play, he should concider his future and just really shut it down until next season. I know the Spurs fans are like FUCK THAT, but it may be the best thing for the team in the long run, especially since its a foregone conclusion that the Lakers will beat them anyway... not just talking smack either.
Thats just my take.
I agree that he should be given enough time to rest. He was orginally supposed to be out for 3 weeks tops, and it's now been around 5 weeks and 19 games that he has missed. Ginobili and the staff and been patient with him this time around (unlike earlier in the season) so if they believe he is good to go, then so be it.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
Jail will do that to you.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
I think Manu's been out so much this season some of you have forgotten that he tends to go through stretches where he plays like shit.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
Once Manu gets into the games, Spurs fans will see what weve been missing :tu
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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lakaluva
I hope Manu is healthy, and I hope we dont have Bynum, just to show that the Spurs are not a threat at all. You guys are living in the past.
Im hoping the same thing....:tu
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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lakaluva
I hope Manu is healthy, and I hope we dont have Bynum, just to show that the Spurs are not a threat at all. You guys are living in the past.
Hey lava lake,
To quote Austin Powers, "Ouch, baby. Very ouch."
Be careful what you wish for. Given the Spurs health problems all season, I doubt that Manu will be 100% for the playoffs, if he even manages to stay on the court.
BUT, I hope he will be 100%, and that Bynum will, too. That would make the Spurs' victory even sweeter.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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lakaluva
I hope Manu is healthy, and I hope we dont have Bynum, just to show that the Spurs are not a threat at all. You guys are living in the past.
:sleep
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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lakaluva
I hope Manu is healthy, and I hope we dont have Bynum, just to show that the Spurs are not a threat at all. You guys are living in the past.
Living in the past? The Spurs last won the title in 2007. The Lakers? Last won the title in 2002.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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Cant_Be_Faded
I think Manu's been out so much this season some of you have forgotten that he tends to go through stretches where he plays like shit.
Yeah, so? all the other NBA players go through that too.
People trying to dismiss the impact of having Manu back are stupid. There's a reason we're 28-10 with him on the court and 18-14 without him.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
haha thats good too hear from Barkley.
I remember last year during the Hornets series he said "aah man we goin down to Yehaw, man san antonio is like cockroaches they just dont go away"
And this is what my friend chuy said in response"oh yeh well thats what the were saying about you too buddy in those casinos." :lol remember when he owed that money.
Ever since he said that hes been on my shit list.
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Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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DAF86
Yeah, so? all the other NBA players go through that too.
People trying to dismiss the impact of having Manu back are stupid. There's a reason we're 28-10 with him on the court and 18-14 without him.
29-9 actually :wakeup
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
Why do Lakers fans post their continual and usual "invincible-entitlement-infallibility-inevitable championship crapfests", proclaim San Antonio no threat whatsoever and then post that for the sake of an opponent's team Manu Ginobilli should sit out for the rest of the season to ensure his health and career?
It's been seven years and one lottery team and the 4 HOP'ers since the Kobe Lakers sans Shaq have done anything and who just broke their old NBA record of biggest loss disparity in Finals history is giving advice and then pretends to be not a troll?
Yeah you're right Lakerluva, no doubt the Lakers will sweep SA in 4. Good grief.
God Almighty in Heaven, if that's isn't final proof that the Lakers truly suck, then I don't really know what is. Manu's coming back, Tim gets some rest and I've never seen as many secondary players and rookies who played with so many real game minutes and do it well in years.
Pop's being stealthy and win or lose , I think this will be one of our most interesting playoff teams in memory. Defense is improved, offense gets iffy but better than last year. Tim will give his best as he can which is better than anybody else. I like our chances.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
Manu is overrated plain and simple…. plus…. how long it took Wade to get his game back???? A whole fucking year… Manu won’t be the same until December and he’s kind of old… he will probably never be the same…. The key here is Tim …. he has to play as good as the first quarter of the season to have a chance.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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urunobili
29-9 actually :wakeup
Where did you get this?
I looked it up here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...g?playerId=272
I don't know if this is right but you can count 10 "L's" when Ginobili is playing.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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it's me
Manu is overrated plain and simple…. plus…. how long it took Wade to get his game back???? A whole fucking year… Manu won’t be the same until December and he’s kind of old… he will probably never be the same…. The key here is Tim …. he has to play as good as the first quarter of the season to have a chance.
Manu's only been out since February, and he did not have any surgery. You can't compare his healing time and/or injury to Wade's. They are completely different. His injury is 100% recoverable, and he should not have any lasting effects from the stress reaction.
Manu is not overrated. If you have the 2005 DVR of the Championship, please look at it. Also, Manu was instrumental in getting us out of the Hornet series last year. Suffice it to say, Manu brings a tremendous amount of energy and chemistry to the team and is extermely competitive. He gets everybody going. Most analysts and fans believe without any one of our 3 we would have no chance, and I agree. We need Manu as much as we need Tim and Parker to play well together.
I too believe that Tim will need to play a large part if this team is to go further than just winning a couple rounds. Tim has to be playing much better. I guess we'll just have to see what the health gods have in store for Timmy. Hopefully he can get more rest before the playoffs. He did play better against the Warriors last night.
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Spursmania
Manu's only been out since February, and he did not have any surgery. You can't compare his healing time and/or injury to Wade's. They are completely different. His injury is 100% recoverable, and he should not have any lasting effects from the stress reaction.
Manu is not overrated. If you have the 2005 DVR of the Championship, please look at it. Also, Manu was instrumental in getting us out of the Hornet series last year. Suffice it to say, Manu brings a tremendous amount of energy and chemistry to the team and is extermely competitive. He gets everybody going. Most analysts and fans believe without any one of our 3 we would have no chance, and I agree. We need Manu as much as we need Tim and Parker to play well together.
I too believe that Tim will need to play a large part if this team is to go further than just winning a couple rounds. Tim has to be playing much better. I guess we'll just have to see what the health gods have in store for Timmy. Hopefully he can get more rest before the playoffs. He did play better against the Warriors last night.
everyone should understand that manu at his best would increase a lot our chance of winning it all. at least, anyone who isn't a blind hater.
but the fact is, why the hell evryone seems so optimistic about manu being able to get back at full strenght soon enough ?
everyone kept saying that he wasn't near his best level before his stress reaction, when he was getting back from his summer injury, and now, after 20 more games missed, he should get back at 100 % in the few games remaining before the PO.
i hope so, but i can't see that happening. Hope TP will be 100 %, Tim 90 % and Manu 75 %. i really think that's the best we can have, and hopefully, that's will be enough.
Re: Barkley: "We can't judge the Spurs until they get Ginobili back."
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lakaluva
Yada Yada Yada. Lets not talk about the past buddy. The Laker were man handled by the best team in the league last season with a hurt Bynum and Ariza. It would have been tough to beat them with a healthy Lakers team.
What I dont understand is how Spurs fans forget that the same Laker team that lost to Boston, curb stomped the shit out of the Spurs.
Spurs dont have a chance against the Lakers, so you may as well get Manu healed, else we will be hearing the same bullshit excuse that Manu was not healthy. Even if he is fully healthy they wont be beating teh Lakers while LA has HC.
It's not an excuse; it's a factor. Manu is a big factor in this team's success and w/o him, naturally there would be an adverse effect. If the Lakers had a hobbled Kobe, lost Pau for most of the season and a less than 100% Bynum, are you still talking 56-14 record?
Spurs may not have a chance against the Lakers but who know? These teams may not even play against each other in the playoffs...but that's why the game is played on the field not in the paper and in sports talk forums. :king