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I really dislike the way Chump does things, but he addresses this topic pretty good. I have the shithead on IGNORE because of his style, but sometimes look at the "view post" option, and see his words when you quote him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
True, but it's a good way to vent here, rather than with the people we love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
He is smart, and a good manipulator. Still, he's right on this topic.
It is not a possibility. It never was. That's why they didn't waste time on it. It doesn't even withstand the simple question of placement you keep avoiding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
I didn't read any blog to want to know who these peers are. These loons and their history of lying makes it imperative that they be more open than any usual peer review process that isn't suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
For example, they must prove they didn't do this -- from your link:
Considering the only people who take seriously the work of these loons are other loons, it is quite fair to ask if, in fact, loons were reviewing the work of these loons.Quote:
Typically referees are not selected from among the authors' close colleagues, students, or friends. Referees are supposed to inform the editor of any conflict of interests that might arise.
No need; I checked yours.Quote:
By the same ignorant bloggers noted above? Which you ignorantly parroted? :lol Check yoursources Chump.
Did you answer that? Give me a link to your answer.Quote:
Ive answered that. The artical answers that. The scientists answer that. Sounds like you are unaware of the substance of the theory. That you claim is completely without merit. You sound biased. Along with ignorant. :toast
Already known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Give me a link to your theory that includes all the conspiracies you believe.Quote:
There is a theory. Its in this thread. Your welcome in advance.
Your consistent cowardly dodging of this simple question is all the ammo I need. Thanks.Quote:
However: Unlike you I am not going to mindlessly parrot the shit, to provide you with ammo. As you did for me. Thanks, btw.
Option 3: There is no theory. You won't give one because you are afraid it will be picked apart rather quickly by me or someone else here.Quote:
Two options here:
1. Sounds like you have unanswered questions that were not dealt with in the official report. Sounds like you need more info. The kind that warrants further investigation.
-OR-
2. There is a theory. Its in this thread. Your welcome in advance.
Your fear is quite justified. All the other truthers share your fear.
Sorry pal, I simply know a lot more about this than you do, mainly because of people like you trying to spread misinformation and outright lies. Some of it sounded realistic at first, so I looked some stuff up. It all turned out to be a huge pile of shit. The people who make this shit up survive off the gullibility and unhinged biases of people such as yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Don't have to think about it.Quote:
And the reason is something you need to think about.
Here it is (Im gonna break it down for you so its clear):
1. If there is any rogue component acting within our government to carry out a rogue agenda contrary to the interests of the public...
2.Then, your bias and the parallel bias in MSM (that you emulate), along with the automatic ridicule for anyone with questions about 9/11...
3. ...lends itself to an environment that would allow that component to operate without interference.
4. And that approach runs counter to justice and transparency, and organized society. When you and people like you put a price on questiong authority, you do your country a disservice.
Think about that awhile, smart guy.
It was a pretty stupid. I'll consider an alternative theory when someone actually comes up with one. All you did was restate your bias against things like reason and common sense in an attempt to be an iconoclast of some sort. You're a hero in your own mind because you want to be, as are most of the loons you are worshiping without a single critical thought. Think about that for awhile.
No Shit. That's why I mentioned Asgard beaming technology. How else could anyone get enough in, unnoticed, to do such damage!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Im not a hero. But I cant stand the segment of America that thinks its actually patriotic to shout down those with unpopular views. At least I cant do it silently.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I think it leaves us open to the criminal element that would use the govt for personal gain. Whether thats city council or state legislators or corrupt members of the executive branch that steer us to war.
I think folks need to understand it is this criminal element that is suspect, not the entire govt. Maybe then they would stop trying to shout down the "loonies."
You yourself said the ridicule was present from day one. You contradict yourself.
Those of your ilk have been hard at their insidious brand of patriotism since moment one, trying to exhalt each and every govt official beyond reproach. If that wasnt you then forgive me. But I dont bare the ridicule for minority beliefs as easily as you seem to believe they should be stamped out. bub.
the theory/hypothesis: The tenant on those floors (insurance firm) had ties to the Bush admin (GWB's cuz was a ceo or somesuchshit) and had the support columns on those floors retreated with "fire retardant" (actually thermite) the months prior to the attacks.
Yeah, sounds pretty unlikely. But you asked for it. I dont buy it. But Im not the one who needs a to z to be permitted to ask questions.
The ridicule was there from day one because the loons were ridiculous from day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Oh man, that's a doozy.
And you don't even believe it.
Seriously, they claim one insurance company leased multiple floors in both towers?
And thermite was sprayed onto columns?
:rollin
Why are we here again?
You sound like a kid who finally got into the cookie jar. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
Glad I could send that slow pitch your way.
HOWEVER...I think the MIC is capable of doing whatever the hell they want. They have more resources than anyone on the fuggin globe, they have more tech than anyone on the globe, they have more know-how than any other aspect of our govt, and we dont have a fucking clue what they are capable of because they dont have to reveal a damn thing they do.
Not only that, but we know the MIC is prone to division and factions from within. So the rise of a rogue group isnt really that far fetched. And their ability to conceal their actions is totally fathomable.
And if you think the ST roundtable can plot and scheme like the MIC you are as naive as you want to be.
And I will add this: A public that is confused and uninformed is the easiest to control. And we absolutely fit that bill.
Add to that:
1) the MSM company loyalty,
2) the ridicule factor that gets propogated by influential public figures and govt officials,
3) the insistance within the Bush admin and beyond that the matter is closed at all costs,
4) the first hand accounts that dont jibe with the official line, and
5) the facts that defy common sense/gut sense/the "smell test,"
and I say the whole scenario is too sketchy to be recorded as we currently claim to understand it.
:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Now you are saying that conspiracy theories must be unbelievable to be believed.
How convenient for you.
The task for "truthers" is a simple one.
Come up with a theory that makes sense and is more compelling than the generally accepted theory.
Then prove it.
So far, no one even has a theory.
I am neither confused nor uninformed. I looked at the best truthers had to offer and found it profoundly lacking. In fact, I found most of them to be liars. If you dig even the slightest bit deeper, you will find the same -- but I don't expect most to do any digging.
So the Journal publishing this paper and the paper itself and the Danish science guy are all bold faced lying/lies/liars?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
I would say the journal will publish just about anything that people pay to put in it, and Danish science guy's bias was laid bare when he said that it was clear to his group of loons that explosives and incendiary devices were used in the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center before they even started examining dust samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
It's so bad, you can't even call it science anymore.
They're liars. No need to dance around it, but it seems to be somebody's occupation.
Some posters like to dance around lies.
(look at me dance)
Welcome back Winehole....I think all this talk of termite is a distraction
Termite swarming season? Seems like the store never closes.
Seriously, in the end, does it really matter? There is a bigger story here
Beg pardon. What, please?
Death by thermite was dreamed up by truthers when it was pointed out to them that there were no audible explosions at the initiations of any of the building collapses.
The neat thing about this "peer reviewed" thermite paper is that it debunks itself with its own data. The "scientists" measured the energy release per gram of material in four samples. All four samples produced a significantly different amount of energy -- which makes no sense if one is trying to prove a single thermetic compound is being used. Even more damning is the fact that two of the samples produced energy in excess of the theoretical maximum for thermite that they list in their paper. They try to pass it off as some kind of superthermite(!) (their word, not mine) with some kind of organic material in it that makes it explosive (their word). That, of course, destroys the entire idea of using a silent incendiary to demolish he building.
The funny thing is, the organic components of paint could easily release the amount of energy they measured.
Paint and rust.
All this stuff has been thoroughly taken apart by people much smarter than any of us. All one has to do is search for it. And yes, I am pretty much parroting what they have already said.
You should have said this pages ago. :nope Ill check it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
what would that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nbadan
The Danish guy said that in the video you posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parker2112
Did you watch it?
If we are truthers what does that make you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
collapsed building.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...M-322/05ap.jpg
Buildings that are collapsing do not shoot heavy metal beams 500 feet.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...nap-773217.png
That's from an earthquake.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouse
How would silent, incendiary nanothermite do that, mouse?Quote:
Buildings that are collapsing do not shoot heavy metal beams 500 feet.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...nap-773217.png
Be specific.
Can you show me the math to prove your statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by mouse
I didn't think so.