Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastr

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Originally Posted by Winehole23

I know you asked mouse, but here is my take: I find the official account more plausible, but I do not have confidence that all relevant angles have been investigated yet, nor that what is known has been liberally disclosed.

IMHO, the what really happened question isn't answerable. The 9/11 logomachy is, IMO, a battle between contending myths. I'm plenty skeptical a nuts and bolts understanding of 9/11 will ever be declassified, if it is ever in fact reached to begin with.

Focusing on what made the buildings fall is a red herring IMO. The real questions I want to know is what made our security and intelligence fail, and how did US officials exploit the ensuing insecurity?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer to this.

Nor am I convinced that the extraordinary official adjustments to 9/11 will be any more effective against a future attack.

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Journal of 9/11 Studies

Thank you for visiting The Journal of 9/11 Studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access, electronic-only journal, covering the whole of research related to the events of 11 September, 2001. Many fields of study are represented in the journal, including Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics and Psychology.

52 Articles

The Missing Jolt: A Simple Refutation of the NIST-Bazant Collapse Hypothesis
Prof. Graeme MacQueen and Tony Szamboti

Obstacles to Persuasion: Lessons from the Classroom
Mark Vorobej

The Ghost in the Machines: Evidence of Foreknowledge in the WTC Hard Drive Recoveries
Michael Fury

Plausibility Of 9/11 Aircraft Attacks Generated By GPS-Guided Aircraft Autopilot Systems
Aidan Monaghan

The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites
Kevin Ryan

9/11 and Probability Theory
Dr. Frank M. Legge

The Impact of the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks on the US Economy
Prof. Olivia A. Jackson

Extremely high temperatures during the World Trade Center destruction
Dr. Steven E. Jones, Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, Dr. Gregory S. Jenkins, Dr. Frank Legge, James Gourley, Kevin Ryan, Daniel Farnsworth, and Dr. Crockett Grabbe

Waiting for Seven: WTC 7 Collapse Warnings in the FDNY Oral Histories
Prof. Graeme MacQueen

9/11 and the Twin Towers: Sudden Collapse Initiation was Impossible
Dr. Frank Legge and Tony Szamboti, ME

Analysis of the Mass and Potential Energy of World Trade Center Tower 1
Gregory H. Urich

Appeal Filed with NIST, Pursuant to Earlier Request for Correction
James Gourley, Bob McIlvaine, Bill Doyle, Steven Jones, Kevin Ryan, Richard Gage, Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice

Appendix: Sept. 2007 Response to April 2007 RFC, from NIST

Islam and the 9/11 Wars: Steven Jones Interviews Kevin Barrett
Dr. Kevin Barrett and Dr. Steven Jones

9/11, JFK, and War: Recurring Patterns in America’s Deep Events
Prof. Peter Dale Scott

Solving The Great Steel Caper: DEW-Demolition Contrary Evidence
Dr. Gregory S. Jenkins

Supplemental: DEW-Demolition Contrary Evidence
Dr. Gregory S. Jenkins

9/11 Commission Deception, Cheney’s Actions on 9/11, and Why He Should Testify Under Oath
Prof. Peter Dale Scott

9/11 – Proof of Explosive Demolition without Calculations
Frank Legge, Ph.D.

Conspiracy Theories, Myths, Skepticism, and 9/11: their Impact on Democracy
Frank Legge, Ph.D.

Faulty Towers of Belief: Part II. Rebuilding the Road to Freedom of Reason
Laurie A. Manwell, M.Sc.

Direct Evidence for Explosions: Flying Projectiles and Widespread Impact Damage
Dr. Crockett Grabbe

High Velocity Bursts of Debris From Point-Like Sources in the WTC Towers
Kevin Ryan

Why Did the World’s Most Advanced Electronics Warfare Plane Circle Over The White House on 9/11?
Mark H. Gaffney

Some Physical Chemistry Aspects of Thermite, Thermate, Iron-Aluminum-Rich Microspheres, the Eutectic, and the Iron-Sulfur System as Applied to the Demise of Three World Trade Center Buildings on 9/11/2001
Jerry Lobdill

Faulty Towers of Belief: Part I. Demolishing the Iconic Psychological Barriers to 9/11 Truth
Laurie A. Manwell, M.Sc.

9/11 Family Members and Scholars: Request for Correction Submitted to NIST
Bob McIlvaine, Bill Doyle, Steven Jones, Kevin Ryan, Richard Gage, Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice

Request for an Investigation by the Senate Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health into the Falsification of pH Corrosivity Data for World Trade Center Dust
Dr. Cate Jenkins

Addendum: Request for an Investigation by the FBI into the Falsification of pH Corrosivity Data for World Trade Center Dust
Dr. Cate Jenkins

Revisiting 9/11/2001 --Applying the Scientific Method
Dr. Steven E. Jones

The Sustainability of the Controlled Demolition Hypothesis for the Destruction of the Twin Towers
Tony Szamboti, ME

NIST and Dr. Bazant - Simultaneous Failure
Gordon Ross, ME

The American Empire and 9/11
Prof. David Ray Griffin (Also published in March/April 2007 Issue of Tikkun; here: full-length version with notes)

Proof That The Thermal and Gravitational Energy Available Were Insufficient to Melt Steel in the Twin Towers and 7 World Trade Center on 9/11/01
Prof. Terry Morrone

Jones v. Robertson, A Physicist and a Structural Engineer Debate the Controlled Demolition of the World Trade Center
Gregg Roberts

A description of molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel
Wes Lifferth

The Overwhelming Implausibility of Using Directed Energy Beams to Demolish the World Trade Center
Dr. Gregory S. Jenkins

Statement Regarding Thermite, Part 1
Robert Moore, Esq.

The NIST WTC Investigation--How Real Was The Simulation?, Word version
Eric Douglas, R.A.

9/11 - Acceleration Study Proves Explosive Demolition
Dr. Frank Legge

A Critical Review of WTC 'No Plane' Theories
Eric Salter

Why Indeed Did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?, Word Document, French Translation
Dr. Steven E. Jones

Seismic Proof - 9/11 Was An Inside Job (Updated Version III)
by Craig T. Furlong & Gordon Ross

What is 9/11 Truth? - The First Steps
Kevin Ryan

To whom it may concern
Dr. Frank R. Greening

Reply to Dr. Greening (See also How the Towers were Demolished)
Gordon Ross, ME

Intersecting Facts and Theories on 9/11
Joseph P. Firmage

118 Witnesses: The Firefighter's Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers
Prof. Graeme MacQueen

NIST Data Disproves Collapse Theories Based on Fire
Dr. Frank Legge

WTC 7: A Short Computation
Prof. Kenneth L. Kuttler

9/11 - Evidence for Controlled Demolition: a Short List of Observations
Dr. Frank Legge

9/11 - Evidence Suggests Complicity: Inferences from Actions
Dr. Frank Legge

Momentum Transfer Analysis of the Collapse of the Upper Storeys of WTC1
Gordon Ross, ME

http://www.journalof911studies.com/

Let's make a journal with a specific agenda and have people with the same agenda review each other's papers. Then we can pay to have it published on the internets! Then we'll be taken seriously!

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Your lack of common sense clouds your mind to enable to properly cipher a good honest question from an off the wall theory tells me your small brain is very limited. And i mean that not as an insult, but as an honest observation from your postings I have read.

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Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Let's make a journal with a specific agenda and have people with the same agenda review each other's papers. Then we can pay to have it published on the internets! Then we'll be taken seriously!

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Back off on the insults, and maybe meet people half way when they make a point, and you may be taken seriously. :tu

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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Tell that to the 2,900 people who died on 9/11
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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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ok brah you and Galileo are on your own have fun................

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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Dude your getting tea bagged by Chump,Blake,Cobra,andRandomLie and you want me to back off?


Have it your way from now on I will just read, good lick! :tu

And I had some new evidence to post!

:bang

Nbadan is throwing in the towel?

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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:lol

yeah, so what is the "true and official" 9/11 conspiracy theory?

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Originally Posted by B-Boys

Back off on the insults, and maybe meet people half way when they make a point, and you may be taken seriously. :tu

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Who are you? If you are mouse, this is one of many reasons you are not taken seriously. :tu

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Give me an alternative comparable commission report, then I'll take you seriously :tu

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Give me anything resembling a coherent theory and I'll take you seriously. :tu

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Originally Posted by Nbadan

Mouse, I support another investigation, but you really need to quit pushing every 9/11 conspiracy theory on the net, especially Alex Jones and Loosechange...

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...hecentury.html

Remember these:

USS Maine lie to start the Spanish American War
Poland had attacked Germany First excuse for Germany to invade Poland
The Gulf of Tonkin - Excuse to send Americans to Vietnam

These are well documented. It's not like Gov'ts tell the truth all the time to their citizens. Do you really expect that they do?

The secrets of 9/11 will soon be uncovered!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...obe-in-bed.gif

You won't learn the truth going back and forth with comments in forums. To learn the truth, you need to sit down and study an extended presentation.

Here is another great one that I missed:

9/11 Blueprint for Truth (2008 Edition)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...50616903609314

This one is cold, scientific analysis, not quite as entertaining as the movies, but very good. I suggest it for follow up.

Another Richard Gage video?

Does he give his famous high tech model demonstration?

http://911guide.googlepages.com/Gage...-full-full.jpg

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Another Richard Gage video?

Does he give his famous high tech model demonstration?

http://911guide.googlepages.com/Gage...-full-full.jpg

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do you think the undamaged portion of the WTC below the impact point would offer resistence to collapse?

Yes, because it did -- just not enough to stop the collapse.

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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Yes, because it did -- just not enough to stop the collapse.

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That's debatable...

Not really. If you can prove each twin tower was designed to catch 1/3 of itself once that section became detached, please show your work.

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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12...rts-speak-out/

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Originally Posted by mouse

So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

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I think the U.S., the FBI, had more than enough intelligence to move on Atta, but yet they didn't...the whole Huffman Aviation connection was just swept under the rug by the M$M..to me where there is smoke, there is fire...

Was Atta CIA?