And one bullet in the captains head ends it pretty horribly as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaithInOne
Some of you amaze me with your brilliance. No really.
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And one bullet in the captains head ends it pretty horribly as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaithInOne
Some of you amaze me with your brilliance. No really.
The scary thing about these pricks is that if you do arm/train the crew of the ships, and kill some of them, the remaining bastards will probably take their RPGs and start blowing some holes in tankers at the waterline out of sheer spite.
Need to figure out a way to keep these scum from putting out to sea in the first place.
lmao @ people thinking military action on the lifeboat is a possibility
Ships have few options against Somali pirates
NAIROBI, Kenya – The 20,000 merchant ships that traverse the Gulf of Aden each year have few options to combat the scourge of piracy off Somalia's lawless coast.
Given their massive size, the ships can't always outrun the small, agile speedboats that the pirates use. If ships arm their crew, they risk escalating the situation or potentially igniting their flammable cargo.
Bypassing the Gulf of Aden to get between Asia and Europe also can rack up a massive costs and add as much as two weeks to the already long voyage.
And though Somalia's struggling government has pledged to combat piracy off its coast, the nascent government can barely secure the few square miles (kilometers) it controls in the capital, Mogadishu, much less along its 1,900-mile (3,100-kilometer) coast, the longest in Africa.
Noel Choong, who heads the Malaysia-based piracy watchdog group International Maritime Bureau, said the ships' best option is to keep a round-the-clock watch and take off at the first sign of trouble. This approach has worked for dozens of ships that have come under attack in Somali waters over the past year.
"It's very simple," Choong said. "The minute they notice small boats approaching their ship, they should take evasive measures, increase speed and at the same time radio for help. A lot of ships escape by doing this."
Ships also should install barbed wire or similar deterrents on the ship to prevent pirates from scaling the sides and boarding.
Roger Middleton, a piracy expert at the London-based think-tank Chatham House, said ships also can travel at full speed, and take evasive procedures such as using water cannons and fire hoses to flood the engines of the pirates' skiffs.
Anti-piracy training courses, like the ones taken by some members of the U.S.-flagged ship briefly seized Wednesday before the crew took it back, also might help, Choong said.
The best solution, governments, piracy experts and ship companies agree, would be for Somalia to improve stability on land, luring desperate young men away from a life of crime on the high seas. But the country has been ravaged by nearly two decades of anarchy and violence, so a quick solution is not likely.
Choong said arming crews would only raise the stakes. Pirates do not normally harm their hostages, but adding guns to the equation could change that.
"We do not approve or support that crews be armed," Choong said. "Once you start arming the crew, then the pirates will start shooting the crew, even an unarmed crew. ... Once that is done you will have more problems because the crew will start shooting at other ships."
Avoiding the Gulf of Aden is neither time- nor cost-effective, he said, though two prominent shipping companies — including A.P. Moller-Maersk A/S — last year ordered slower ships to sail around Africa's Cape of Good Hope, a move that can lengthen routes by as much as 40 percent.
Three months into an international anti-piracy campaign, as many as 17 nations are participating in increased patrols and more are expected to join.
But according to the U.S. Navy, it would take 61 ships to control the shipping route in the Gulf of Aden, which is just a fraction of the 1.1 million square miles (2.85 million square kilometers) where the pirates have operated.
A U.S.-backed international anti-piracy coalition currently has 12 to 16 ships patrolling the region at any one time.
"The pirates are having a field day, attacking ships freely," Choong said. "At the moment, the risks are very small and the rewards are very high."
This is a snippet from another article on Yahoo.
The Somali in contact with the pirates holding Phillips said they are trying to link up with colleagues who are holding Russian, German, Filipino and other hostages in ships near the coast. Their goal is to get Phillips to Somalia, where they could hide him in the lawless country and make a rescue difficult, the Somali said.
That would give the pirates a stronger negotiating position to discuss a ransom.
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I heard that 66 ships have been hijacked this year alone!
Why not put some wire mesh on the sides of the ship and when the pirates are climbing it, run a decent amount of electrical current through the wire?
That would be a funny sight.
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Originally Posted by DarrinS
Saltwater isn't corrosive at all so that wire mesh is a great idea. Powering would be easy too. You should invent this, Darrin. Take advantadge of the free market and solve the piracy all in one fell swoop. Get Billy Mays to sell that shit while you're at it.
The French policy is to do everything to refuse the pirates from taking French citizens onto land, so a couple days ago French commandos (cheese-eating surrender monkeys, every one) boarded a pirated French yacht that was drifting towards land (they had already shot the main sail full of holes. For those of you who haven't sailed, no mainsail = no sailing). The yacht-captain/father and 2 pirates were killed were killed, other pirates captured and taken to France for trial, but the wife + kid and a couple friends were saved.
Is the (chance of a ) dead father (or ship crew members) a justified cost of the raid?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7994201.stm
Mr. Obama’s incessant abasement of America, Send in the FBI
Profiles in Cowardice: Obama Rolls Over Again
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10103
By Joy Tiz Thursday, April 9, 2009
When I was a little girl, my parents told me I was very lucky to be an American. They explained that I had the good fortune of being able to travel anywhere in the world that captured my interest when I grew up. Nobody, anywhere, would harass an American. We had proven our resolve in World War II; everyone knew Americans were unyielding.
For the first time in over 200 years, a United States merchant ship has been hijacked by pirates. The Maersk Alabama was seized by Somalis while on a mission to deliver relief supplies to Kenya. Such attacks are hardly a rare event on the high seas off of Somalia. The terrorists’ motivation is to extort ransom money in exchange for hostages. It’s been an enormously successful project for the terrorists. Our Commander in Chief responded by sending the FBI.
The Somali Republic, a Muslim country, gained independence from Britain in 1960 but has deteriorated into a hell hole of killing, enslavement, and starvation. With no functioning government, the Bush administration declared Somalia to be a terrorist haven. The United States sent troops in 1992, ordered by President George H.W. Bush, to send humanitarian aid in hopes of saving the Somalis from starvation. Bill Clinton’s disastrous superintendence of the Somali operation helped embolden radical Islam and dishonored the United States as well as the troops who lost their lives due to the former president’s ineffectuality. News of America’s newfound weakness was cheered by al Qaeda and other terrorist mobs.
The Maersk’s captain, Richard Phillips surrendered himself to the terrorists in exchange for the safe release of his crew. Nobody who knows the father of two seems surprised by Captain Phillips’ heroism. The valiant crew of a mere twenty men fought off the terrorists who were heavily armed. Barack Obama cannot even begin to understand this kind of American lion heartedness.
President Obama just returned from his degrading apology tour in Europe and Turkey, which has been hailed by the mainstream press as triumphant; but, during which he accomplished almost none of the items on his agenda. Unless his real agenda was to convince the world that America is no longer a super power, but has deteriorated into an effete socialist state.
Islamolunatic, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is celebrating Iran’s success in running 7000 uranium enrichment centrifuges. Nuclear weapons are central to Ahmedinejad’s plan to bring about the end of the world in a blazing conflagration which is, apparently, the correct protocol for summoning the 12th imam. Barack Obama wants to sit down and have a talk with these loons. Joe Biden has warned Israel not to consider an attack on Iran.
North Korea launched a missile over Japan, in utter defiance of the United States. Barack Obama called for nuclear disarmament, volunteering the US to go first. He is concerned that missile defense would offend our enemies and make them feel like we don’t trust them. Barack Obama is waiting for the UN to issue a resolution scolding North Korea.
In 1975, just nine months into his administration, the late President Gerald Ford took military action to resolve a hostage crisis. Less than two weeks after the fall of Saigon, Naval forces of the Khmer Rouge hijacked the US merchant ship, SS Mayaguez off of Cambodia’s southern coast and captured the 40 man crew. When the UN, strangely enough, failed to act, President Ford sent in the Marines. “It’s a strong naval tradition in the United States that when a ship comes under attack, that you’re really attacking the United States”, said marine General James L. Jones.
Our current president sent law enforcement. The US Navy is standing watch as the Captain and hostages are adrift in a lifeboat. It quickly became obvious that this administration, learning nothing from Clinton’s failures, is going to treat this act of terrorism as a law enforcement matter. In fact, Attorney General Eric Holder has announced that he has not yet decided whether to “prosecute” the pirates.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, displaying yet again her legendary incompetence, laughed about the incident when asked about it in Morocco, along with providing the traditional leftist blather about the world having to work together to solve the pirate problem. One can only imagine how Captain Phillips’ family and friends felt hearing Hillary cackle about their loved one’s ordeal. The administration’s cowardly message is unambiguous: this depraved act of terror against United States citizens is to be treated as a criminal act
Lapdog reporter, Steve Holland at Reuters called the hostage crisis an “annoying distraction for Obama.”
Barack Hussein Obama’s friends in the UAE have concocted their own theory as to why Obama is so incompetent: he’s just too talented! Obama is just too smart, too introspective and too talented to be a good crisis manager. It’s all falling into place now.
John Kerry, in his never ending struggle to be relevant, came up with the inane idea of holding Pirate Hearings. Can’t see how that could fail. I vote we let Senator Kerry serve the Pirate Subpoenas.
When asked by reporters about the terrorist act, the current president responded with the plainspoken courage we expect: hey guys, we’re talking about housing now. Translation: the pirate stuff wasn’t downloaded into his teleprompter.
A family member of Captain Phillips told Fox News that the family has no objection to the use of military force and that the government has failed to be tough enough with pirates; ransoms should never have been paid.
Confirming that a blind squirrel really does find an acorn now and then, Vice President Joe Biden would appear to have been right when he admonished us to gird our loins because the world would test the new president. Rather than a single incident, we are seeing an endless series of tests and the president is failing every one.
When attacked, a dog will sometimes roll over and offer up his throat to the more dominant dog in hopes of fending off a serious attack. The weaker dog is signaling a willingness to be dominated which sometimes diffuses the stronger dog’s need to prove his mettle. It works with dogs who are socialized and are not hard core dog fighters. It won’t work with genetically defective dogs, or dogs afflicted with rabies, which should clarify why Obama’s foreign policy can’t succeed.
Mr. Obama’s incessant abasement of America, along with his bowing and scraping to our enemies is coming precariously close to the exemplification of offering aid and comfort to our enemies.
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Joy Tiz was born in Chicago long ago enough to recall when many democrats were actually normal people who were just wrong about everything. Joy holds a Master of Science degree in psychology and a JD in law. She practiced law briefly in the 1990s but quickly grew weary of having to constantly explain the Constitution to unelected judges.
Joy has written extensively on a wide range of topics including the legal aspects of self defense, canine behavior and politics. Her book I Love My Dog, But . . . (Avon 1999) received excellent reviews. Joy’s next book, Obamanutz: A Cult Leader takes the White House is due out later this spring.
An unapologetic capitalist, Joy currently owns a small real estate brokerage. She is also the proud owner of three magnificent and staunchly conservative German Shepherds, a Quarter Horse mare lacking in work ethic and Zirc the Wonder Colt.
How is this an act of terrorism ???Quote:
It quickly became obvious that this administration, learning nothing from Clinton’s failures, is going to treat this act of terrorism as a law enforcement matter.
Joy should stick to writing dog love books. It's pretty clear she doesn't know what the fuck she is talking about in this case.
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Originally Posted by MannyIsGod
Wow. You really thought I was serious?
You are a mental giant.
:wakeup
I have trouble seeing this as an act of terra for obvious reasons. The Mayaguez incident isn't the most perfect comparison either. Yes, the Marines were sent in to take that ship, but the Maersk Alabama was already back under the control of the crew by the time the Navy reached them. Furthermore at least three marines were needlessly killed when they assaulted an island where they thought the crew of the Mayaguez was being held. The crew had actually never been on that island and had been released earlier.
I saw no real call to action in that commentary. I suppose she wishes for some kind of a military attack on a lifeboat to release one hostage (that I know of -- correct me if I'm wrong). Seems rather unnecessary.
Because your jokes sound any different from your real posts? Maybe if you didn't post stupid drivel non stop we'd be able to tell when the stupid drivel was intentional.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
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Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
These aren't acts of terrorism. They just want money. Terrorists want to kill and become martyrs.
Well, not just that -- but I agree with the basics.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrinS
Not terra.
He's free. Three dead pirates. One captive.
No fucking shit. Not even the dumbest, most ideologically ridged graduates of Freedom U would try to call this terrorism with a straight face. Jesus, that's one of the more ass ignorant things I've recently seen bandied about by conservatives, which is saying a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartleby
US commandos just freed the captain and killed three pirates. So much for the fecklessness of the USA under Obama.
Bad call for Joy Tiz, worthless post for shelshor.
So much for the "liberal pussy" Obama meme...
America... Fuck yeah!
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Originally Posted by shelshor
Wow. I'm surprised they could pull that off successfully. I was wrong. Glad the captain is safe.
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SEALSQuote:
Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
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scuba gear
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advanced thermal imaging
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3 second fire-fight
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WIN
Professional negotiators like the FBI made for a good delaying tactic while the SEALS prepped. If the negotiators worked, great, if not, they bought time.
The article posted by sayshor criticised the use of the FBI, but that simply goes to show a lack of situational awareness on the part of a real estate agent who probably doesn't realize that professional hostage negotiators aren't issued to every US destroyer and have their uses in say... hostage situations.
So it turns out that the pirates were out of ammo, water and food. They offered the capt. in exchange for their freedom and the US turned it down. So more or less, these fuckers got got when they were entirely defenseless and we took as hard a line as possible in the negotiations. Which IMO is cool.
Anyways, these details further solidify this idiot's right-wing position as even more retarded than it originally appeared.
aren't those life boats loaded for food for 10 people for a week?